Wednesday, May 10, 2017

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - God and Research Autonomy

I quite agree

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On May 9, 2017, at 11:03 PM, Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:


Olayinka:

I am happy that I graduated with a PhD from the University of California, Santa Barbara in 1983 and not from this intolerant Dutch University - or department..    The title of my thesis was "A Multi-TIme-Scale Analysis of the Complex Chaotic Behavior in Heterogeneous Catalytic Systems" , and it involved the identification of inner and outer solutions of differential equations.  

Now I found this quotation from the Bible:

QUOTE

2 Corinthians 4:16 

"So we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, our inner self his being renewed day by day."


UNQUOTE

I featured it PROMINENTLY all by itself on one of the initial pages of my thesis, and two of my thesis committee members thought it quite clever.  No one complained.  There was no controversy.

If I cannot acknowledge my supervisors, my wife, my children, my dog, etc. in my thesis, why cannot I acknowledge God?  Or explicitly Christ, both as a historical figure and as God incarnate?  That is ridiculous, and outrageous intolerance.

And there you have it.


Bolaji Aluko
Shaking his head



On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 1:02 AM, Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Suffuce it to say that if Isaac Newton dismissed all the myths in the Bible instead of the meticulous extent he went to decode them we would not have the transition from alchemy to the modern discipline of Chemistry and the Laws of Motion.

In addition we would not have the Big Bang theory which is nothing if not the elaboration of the biblical creation story minus God.



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-------- Original message --------
From: Kenneth Harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
Date: 10/05/2017 00:51 (GMT+00:00)
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - God and Research Autonomy

You know, olayinka, though what you say is true, their myths, stories, narratives, poetry, discourses, prophetic accounts, are no less wonderful for that. You perhaps want to dismiss them, and that would be an infinite loss. Every story with reach and depth, regardless of the misuse to which they might have been subject, has been the subject of commentary, which all together amass wonders of thought and reflection and inspiration that account for much of human, artistic, philosophical, intellectual creation. I mourn the loss of the Buddhist statues the Taliban destroyed in Afghanistan not because I am afghani or Buddhist, but because I want to count it as our heritage. A heritage they have no right to destroy.

If you are unhappy over the uses to which religion has been put, we share the same views. But if your unhappiness carries over from the abusive people to the religion itself, then you re accepting their abusive thought instead of rumis or al arabis or the wonders in the confederation of birds, just to cite the great sufi wonders.

ken

 

Kenneth Harrow

Dept of English and Film Studies

Michigan State University

619 Red Cedar Rd

East Lansing, MI 48824

517-803-8839

harrow@msu.edu

http://www.english.msu.edu/people/faculty/kenneth-harrow/

 

From: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>
Reply-To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tuesday 9 May 2017 at 19:06
To: usaafricadialogue <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - God and Research Autonomy

 

Most myths of origins and legends are cock and bull stories and propaganda anyway and the Bible can not be an exception.

 

 

 

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-------- Original message --------

From: Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com>

Date: 09/05/2017 22:43 (GMT+00:00)

To: USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - God and Research Autonomy

 

Sir

So much propaganda

cock and bull stories

legends

Are you suggesting that it was less of "So, God created man in His own image" and more of God became a "He" and SO,MAN CREATED GOD IN HIS OWN IMAGE

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