Sunday, June 11, 2017

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra

In the agony of Nigeria, the people who are most clear eyed about how to get out of this hell are the secessionists. The vanguard of secession is the Igbo vision of Biafra because the injustices that inspired the 1960s drive for Biafra remain entrenched in Nigeria, expressed in various ways, both similar to and different from the 1960s experience.

Those who hold that Nigeria's problems are rooted in corruption are focusing on the fruits and not the roots of the problem.

Those who hold that they want restructuring must take account of the desperate determination of the right wing Hausa-Fulani to avoid restructuring at all cost because the present arrangement suits them.

The non-Muslim minorities in the North and the Middle Belt, emboldened  by the Biafra struggle, are making progress in declaring their freedom from tyranny of the right wing Hausa-Fulani, a tyranny dramatized by the massacre of their people and colonization of their lands by Fulani terrorism in Southern Kaduna and the Middle Belt.

The Niger Delta, as represented by its response to the right wing Hausa-Fulani Kaduna Declaration,  is speaking up in support of the Biafra struggle which reflects its own struggle for resource control and self determination.

The other minority groups are watching the unfolding struggle as they seek their own direction about the way forward in the Nigeria crisis.

thanks

toyin



On 11 June 2017 at 20:43, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com> wrote:

The Biafra vision is trans-Igbo in its ideological fundamentals but is Igbo in its practical expression.

The SW political elite have previously been the primary advocates of restructuring the nation's political and economic organization to allow for the independence of its constituent units rather than the current crippling dominance from the centre and the debilitating dependence on the mono-economy represented by Niger Delta oil but the previously loudest voices from  that region have been muted since they succeeded in entering Aso Rock through the vice-presidency of Yemi Osinbajo, silence inspired by   their Hausa-Fulani allies who have consistently voiced their resistance to reworking the political and economic organization of the nation.

It has therefore fallen to the largely Igbo pro-Biafra agitators,  pursuing the secession vision of the reworking of Nigeria, to struggle for a social structure  that is shaped in the interests of its citizens, not the interests of colonial master Britain who created the dysfunctional nation and the right wing Muslim North, who have succeeded in bleeding the nation through various structural controls, from multiplication of local governments in their region as opposed to other regions as a means of attracting federal revenue and the establishing of ridiculously low cut off marks as opposed to high cut off marks for other regions in entrance exams to schools and universities, breeding a culture of mediocrity.

Do you want a country where you and your descendants are empowered to actualize their potential,where excellence is central in the quest for education and job placements, where you will be free from Fulani terrorism as the nomadic advance  guard of terrorists run cows across your schools and farms, attacking and killing any who oppose the destruction of their lives and property by such  atavistic lifestyles?

Do you want a nation in which the parasitic, initiative deadening culture of  flow of oil from the Niger Delta to the federal centre and its distribution to the regions as the central economic activity is terminated,  as each region or nation  struggles to build its own economic structure, taking the country into industrialization, attracting back to Nigeria or nations created from the older country  citizens across the world who have fled to other nations because  their own country is asphyxiating to human development?

If you do, join the Biafra secession struggle or the restructuring struggle. Taking refuge in castigating the Biafra struggle as it champions freedom from slavery is equivalent to sustaining your  own   slavery in the killing fields of Nigeria, where the  massacres of thousands, murderous colonization initiatives  exemplified by the massacres in Agatu in the Middle Belt  and Nimbo in the South East,  by the militia/politician network of Fulani terrorists,who remain free to walk  the land even as they boldly and loudly justify their massacres of communities, demonstrates your status as worse than that of second class citizens, being that of sub-humans whose lives are at the mercy of  their murderous masters.

thanks

toyin



On 11 June 2017 at 19:28, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com> wrote:
The contemporary struggle for Biafra is anchored on the conviction that Nigeria, as it is presently constituted, is a failure  that stunts the development of its citizens and only the self determination of its constituent units can assure the development of adequate human value.











On 11 June 2017 at 06:57, Rex Marinus <rexmarinus@hotmail.com> wrote:

"Speak only for your jaundiced self as Obi Nwakama and not for the Igbo.  I have more Igbo real friends than you do!"

-Olayinka Agbetuyi


Agbetuyi:

I am going to make this my very last statement on this round of talk on Biafra because, not unexpectedly it did quickly degenerate into school-yard antics. It has become predictable, circular and boring. When people cannot deploy coherent argument, or when they enter slippery zones where they have nothing better to say, they resort to blackmail and name calling. You want to bully me with the age of you sister. I do not give a shit how old you are, or how old your sister is. Age alone does not confer regard, integrity and wisdom, none of which, I'm sorry to say, you have demonstrated, do. You have for instance not defined how it is that my argument is frivolous. Is it because I reminded you of your tendency to invoke carnage on the Igbo when they seek justice? Yet I am the one who is a "laughing stock." I do not know who is laughing, and who is the "stock." But this cliché is deployed to silence those who speak to things that are either beyond your comprehension, or that frighten you. There are two kinds of laughter: there is the laugher of the fool who laughs because he dos not know when to laugh, and there is also the laughter of the inebriated, who has a compulsion disorder at that point of over excitement. And so you can laugh all you want, if it makes you happy to think that Obi Nwakanma is a "laughing stock" in your forum. I mean, you must have clearly taken opinion samples from members of this forum to come to this claim.  it is all in character of course, that you either do not know the exact meaning of the terms you use, or you are as often as it is true remarkably full of beans. But what do you expect of people who could call Ojukwu a "coward": a man fights a war, goes into exile, returns to great acclaim, and sits "gidigbam" in the capital city on his return, and never stopped talking, never pulled punches, and never hid behind the veil of silence. When all the Generals who fought him saw him, they often stood in attention to salute him or otherwise fled from him. If such a man were a coward, then "cowardice" has a different meaning. But of course, the Agbetuyi's and the like, because they need to feel happy with themselves call Ojukwu a "coward," Obi Nwakanma, some "laughing stock," and Achuzia, "self-acclaimed war lord." You think you can really bully me with such verbal blackmail? Who gives a shit what you think? What you think does not really count where it matters most.


And please, do not insult the word "friendship." You have no Igbo friends. You have "Igboanguish" - its a form of a Nigerian national anxiety disorder; the same that affects redneck neighborhoods in the American south when it comes to African-Americans. You'd see the most racist of such say, "I have black friends." If you have Igbo friends, you wouldn't say it; there is nothing special in having Igbo friends, and the very fact that you mark them as "Igbo friends" speaks to the real issue here. I'd be unable to help you. You need to consult a shrink to deal with this depth of the unheimlich. You must stop thinking about Igbo bodies trucked home for burial because they protest. Period. The Igbo have articulated the very basis of their demands: that Nigeria must begin to treat all Nigerians with equality. The Igbo suffer disproportionately in the Nigerian enterprise - by all the indices that they have deployed in their complaints which I will not rehash here. But at the core of Igbo demand is the equality of citizenship. No Nigerian must be discriminated against wherever they reside in Nigeria. No section of Nigeria must be favored to the deficit of any part. In other words, all policy of development must be based on the human index and the human factor, not on the geographical. Public service must be transparent, etc. The Igbo understand that they have to lead the charge in the transformation of Nigeria, as they did in the anti-colonial movement, for the restoration of the equal rights of citizenship. But now hear you: "the Igbo complain too much, everybody is marginalized. They should shut up!" I am paraphrasing you. But the Igbo have never asked you not to protest; nor have they suggested that you be killed and your body parts be recovered from across Nigeria for seeking social justice. These are your very words: "Why is the case of Igbo unique and why must a section of the Igbo continually blackmail the rest of Nigeria with secession to wrest more than their just due from the federation?" This statement eerily echoes that which feeds the impulsion to genocide, whether it was by what was said of the Jews in Europe- before their expulsion from Spain or by the Nazi pogrom, or with the Tutsis in Rwanda, before their systematic slaughter. But you do not have the emotional intelligence to get even the subtle hints made by Ken Harrow or Chidi. Yet I am the laughing stock. And if you care to follow the responses to this question about Biafra and the conclusion of the war - you'd immediately notice that it follows a known and predictable pattern. It is often by the same people, from the same section of the forum and of the nation. These folk suffer from extreme forms of the anxiety called "Igboanguish." They feel rattled by the fact that the Igbo want equal rights and justice: how dare these "conquered" or "vanquished" Igbo who "surrendered" their rights?, you guys ask. This monomanic compulsion to contain the Igbo is the reason why the Igbo want out. There is your answer. But why do you want to live with the Igbo in the same country? You don't like them. You feel threatened by their presence. You can rid yourself of this Igbo problem by writing to your rep in the National Assembly to support the Act of referendum to determine the choice for secession. That is the democratic and civilized thing to do. Not blackmail the Igbo with the threat of slaughter. Once the Igbo have their own country, you may now turn back any of the buses that you see leaving the East daily towards the West at your borders. You can then also not only restrict their entry, but legitimately expel them, and through visa regulations make certain that the Igbo vermin no longer infests your neighborhood. But for as long as they are part of the same country, their rights to disperse and settle, and enjoy all the rights of citizenship must never be denied them. That's their just due. You cannot want the Igbo and not want them at the same time. There are many Igbo in this forum who keep silent, and watch, and do not bother to respond to the inanities of this obsessive anti-Igbo lynch mob. I do not speak for them. I speak on the simple premise that I have something to say, and that I will follow the Achebean injunction to "balance the stories," so that years from now, if anybody ever finds cause to read these exchanges, they will know who actually is the "laughing stock," and that yours is not the single story. In other words, I write this for my grand children. But I too have become too bored with its circularity. I shall have nothing more to say o this subject until another round of lies that needs to be corrected surfaces. And there you have it.

Obi Nwakanma




From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2017 1:01 AM

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Cc: Olayinka Agbetuyi
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra
 
Obi:

Let me be forthright with you:  You are rhe same age as my youngest sister who holds the same doctorate degree as you do and if she argues in the same vacuous way that you do she knows I would disown her. Agbetuyis dont argue like babies.  

You debase the qualifications you hold with the irresponsible line of argument you pursue which has made you the laughing stock of the forum.  I tried my best to shield you from attack by exasperated members but you are your own worst enemy.

Did you read the piece byJibrin
Ibrahim on perception of marginalization by ethnicities in Nigeria?  Why is the case of Igbo unique and why must a section of the Igbo continually blackmail the rest of Nigeria with secession to wrest more than their just due from the federation. 

 I repeat any such Igbo must feel free to withraw to Igboland to continue to deal only with fellow Igbo and leave the other responsible Igbo who realize that living is a question of give and take with other people to continue with their livelihoods in any part of Nigeria in a spirit of give and take.

If there is any act of violence against the persons of such Igbo I can guarantee that we the conscientious non Igbo will be their first line of defence and that they dont need such bigoted, prebendal, self-seeking, pretencious, ethnic jingoist and rabble rousers as yourself as champions of their interests.  

Speak only for your jaundiced self as Obi Nwakama and not for the Igbo.  I have more Igbo real friends than you do!



Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Rex Marinus <rexmarinus@hotmail.com>
Date: 10/06/2017 06:59 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra

Agbetuyi, you did not get the hint of reproach in Chidi and Ken Harrow's retort. The first thing that comes to your mind when the Igbo protest, or raise a voice to complain about their situation, is Igbo bodies slaughtered across Nigeria and trucked back to the East. Why do you conceive of that kind of carnage when it comes to the Igbo? Why do you have to kill the Igbo for political speech, for asking for justice, or for actually asking for recognition of the equality of all Nigerians failing which separation? Why is it that the only Igbo who has to stay alive in your mind is the silent Igbo, or the prostrate Igbo, or the malleable Igbo, or the Igbo who is merely "photo-on-the wall"? Now you say, "Amen!" But "Amen!" to what? To a Freudian slip? I will only ask you to be very careful with what you wish for. The Igbo are very angry and are not looking again to be slaughtered. We must make every effort to allow peace, secure it, and avoid every urge to engage in slaughter, so that we do not open the kind of dangerous floodgate Ken Harrow has alluded to. You must note this however: the Igbo are not willing to live in Nigeria as "conquered" people, or people who "surrendered" their rights with war. If seeking justice in Nigeria means  slaughter of the Igbo, then you must gird your loins with hardier cloth, and you must be prepared to kill them all. But I just hope that more civilized, more humane, and more tolerant impulses prevail, and not the impulses that dream about scattered Igbo body parts ferried home for burials. 

Obi Nwakanma





From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Olayinka Agbetuyi <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra
 


Amen!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.


-------- Original message --------
From: Chidi Anthony Opara <chidi.opara@gmail.com>
Date: 09/06/2017 22:39 (GMT+00:00)
To: USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra

(Peaceful)separatist agitations don't have to result to people being slaughtered.

CAO.

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