Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju, may I ask you if the Biafra you wish to come soon is the same Biafra declared by the then Lieutenant Colonel Ojukwu or a new Biafra that will contain all Igbo in their ancestral and geographical homeland in the present day Nigeria? Do you think Edo state will make a viable country if Nigeria is dissolved into various ethnic components especially, when Edo is not a homogenous ethnic state?
Why has it not been intellectually attractive for you and your cohorts to demand for economic restructure of Nigeria whereby Nigerian masses would know who are the oil block owners and what qualifies them to own oil blocks?; What has Nigeria earned as national income between 1999-2015 and what has been done with the incomes?; How much of the national incomes have been collected by each State in Nigeria between 1999-2015 as federal allocations?; Since there are millionaires and billionaires in terms of US dollars across the ethnic groups in Nigeria of today, why are there no correlations between their wealth and progressive industrial and economic development of Nigeria?; From what has the Nigerian millionaires and billionaires in terms of dollars made their money when Nigeria is economically poorer than what she was in 1960?; And should those who claim 75% control of Nigeria's economy be held responsible for the retrogressive economic and industrial development of Nigeria?
If you answer the above questions honestly, you will discover that your request for Nigeria's political restructuring, instead of economic restructuring, is putting the cart before the horse for a safe ride.
S. Kadiri
Skickat: den 24 juni 2017 10:18
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You can say that again!
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-------- Original message --------From: "Ibukunolu. A. Babajide" <ibk2005@gmail.com>Date: 23/06/2017 11:38 (GMT+00:00)To: Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com>, USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@ googlegroups.com >Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra
One error here! African traditional beliefs do not proselytize! There is freedom to worship whatever pleases you and helps you without fear or favor!
It is the Abrahamic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam that kill on behalf if their God and have a policy of my way or the highway!
Cheers.
IBK
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From: Cornelius Hamelberg
Sent: 23/06/2017 06:36
To: USA Africa Dialogue Series
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Achuzia and Realuzation of Biafra
--Baba Kadiri,
Isn't Thor the Swedish version of Yoruba's Shango?
It's possible that some of the Italians are still swearing by Mars , but didn't Jesus say "swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne:Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King" ?
On the Yoruba (Oduduwa) - Igbo (Biafra ) axis it could be a showdown between Olodumare and Chukwu (assuming that there is a difference between them) If there is a difference and both of them are jealous, what happens then?
You are familiar with Ola Rotimi's "The Gods are not to blame" - so lets skip the argument about which God is responsible for the state that Nigeria is in or which God is stronger; it seems to me that if the Nigerian Gods are united at least on a national, if not a universal level, then the peoples of Nigeria could also be united under the One God and I guess that therein lies the strength in monotheism: you, Chidi and Obi all united under one God and I suppose that the good people of Zamfara would like to make a strong political plea for Allah subhanahu ta'ala as a unifying factor. As you yourself are aware, there's no way Nigerian Muslims (some 55% of the nation) is ever going to accept any other God or Gods (shirk). The Christians of course have issues with "qul huwa allahu ahad" even if you argue the merits of the Omnipotent's divine mathematics. The Jews of course have issues with al- Islam and with Jesus who Islam recognises as the Messiah of the Jews.
The question that we must examine and answer are :
1. Is it OK to legitimise racism and tribalism in the name of this and that religion?
2. Be honest now. What do you say about Biafra wanting a divorce from Nigeria? Surely they should not have to go to war to liberate themselves from an unhappy marriage?
It should be interesting to see how the Pro-Biafra people are going to react to whatever punishment is meted out to Nnamdi Kanu...
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 23:35:40 UTC+2, ogunlakaiye wrote:Baby Nnamdi Hamelberg,
May the Gods of Sweden, Odén and Tor, and the Goddess of Sweden, Freia, deliver Nigeria from those who preach that divided we, Nigerians, stand and united, we fall. Since Swedish Gods and her Goddess are more powerful than Hebrew and Arabic Gods, I am sure that They will grant the prayer of Nigerians to remain united as brothers and sisters regardless of devilish efforts of Lucifers.
S. Kadiri
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Skickat: den 22 juni 2017 17:35
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Mazi Chidi,
In plain prose : I agree with you completely.What's wrong with our man? There he goes, violating the terms of his release, his bail conditions such as
the prohibition against holding rallies, granting interviews or addressing a "crowd" of more than ten people whilst awaiting his trial. As if he is unaware of those bail conditions and maybe intoxicated and getting too big for his boots, a little giddy being so much in the limelight and loving every moment of the media's glare, he has inauspiciously proclaimed himself militant "Messiah of Biafra" - about which I say, well, there are many false prophets and false messiahs - not only of Israel - and in Rabbi Kanu's case it's maybe a prefiguration of his trial, eventual long prison sentence or crucifixion/ execution and martyrdom. All that remains is his last supper with his twelve disciples - after humbly washing their feet. Meanwhile - while he's still a free man let him continue to enjoy prancing around like a pop star, wearing his special colourful robes and Ray Charles sunglasses - delivering lengthy speeches to large crowds - in English too, so that the rest of the world that doesn't speak Igbo can hear and understand him, he has been granting interviews - to al-Jazeera among others and - without any military training or experience is still talking like a great military general like Julius Caesar or soon to be guerilla leader like Che Guevara.
As a result of all of the above, we can see plainly see that his conviction is a foregone conclusion - what we don't yet know is the severity of the sentence that he is going to receive in order to set a statutory example to those who advocate taking up arms against the Federal Government for any reason whatsoever.
What do the Igbo elders say ?
Among the venerable Igbo elders I have in mind stalwarts like stiff upper lip Emeka Anyaoku and in my time in Nigeria, Shagari's second-in-command Alex Ekwueme. On the religious-ethical front, on the world stage we have a moral authority like Cardinal Francis Arinze who we should imagine would much prefer a non-violent revolutionary Brother Nnamdi Kanu walking in the footsteps of his Jewish Brother Jesus and reflecting the values of the Sermon on the Mount, instead of spitting fire and threatening his neighbours with death, as if he doesn't know that Igbos live all over the federation and are liable to tit-for-tat eye for eye retaliation - starting with pogroms in the North as has happened before.
I should like to add Biko Agozino to the honourable category of "Igbo elders" even though he may be too young for that. So what say ye if he is included in the category "Junior Igbo elder " - like a junior senator ? ( When I was eighteen I thought that I was certainly a grown up)
Ten years later , the scars of war were still visible in Aba, Umuahia and Owerri, according to other's testimonies because I myself don't know what those places looked like before the war and I guess that Igbos under the age of fifty can't remember either
We (Igbo, Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani Kalabari alike, including Alhaji Mujahid Asari-Dokubo) have a moral obligation to condemn Kanu's outrageous - and dangerous beating of war drums when we should be talking peaceably about the best way way to go forward and about a referendum to begin with...
All of the above, notwithstanding, it may be a just a blip, but Nnamdi Kanu's place in history is still assured. He has and is still fulfilling his function: amplifying the Biafra cause which in my view, especially in the world outside of Nigeria, I believe many people would support, not least of all here in Sweden , if it is all approached peacefully - starting with a referendum. (I know that an irate Baba Nnamdi Kadiri Esq probably won't hesitate in taking me to task by asking me "How do you know that "many people in Sweden" would support the Biafra cause, ? Did you conduct a referendum whereby you verified their commitment? )
Well, first of all, believe it or not there are the questions that we have to answer in the grave and not before. On the Day of Judgement Nnamdi will probably be asked about his accomplishments on earth that should merit his being granted a seat near the throne of Majesty. At that point, everyone of us will have to speak for him and herself not just on behalf of making America Nigeria/ Biafra etc. "great again". I think that on the day of that trial most of us, including the Nigerian judges will be pleading for mercy -
Na so a see am o!
Yours sin-cerely,
Cornelius
On Thursday, 22 June 2017 12:55:03 UTC+2, Chidi Anthony Opara wrote:Mazi Cornelius,
I do not waste my time with characters like Kanu. You at least know me and several other Igbos, now the question is; does it look like Kanu represents us?
The Kanu hate speeches is being used as a blackmail tool. Kanu tongue-lashes everyone, including those you want to call him to order. All the ethnic nationalities in Nigeria however have their own Kanu.
CAO.
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