Ama(don't know if I can call you this),
The Ekeukwu Owerri Market and Arugo motor park Literary confraternity
is at the concluding process of the Wole Soyinka patent, so take note.
Pius,
The day Falola makes the mistake of taking your advice on the "Hall of
Shame", I would suggest that he would be the first to be inducted for
his failure to curb all the Intellectual gra-gra you and your ilk
harass us(lesser mortals) with in this forum.
Ikhide,
My main man, as we say here, "maintain"!. He who fights and runs away,
lives to fight another day(Bob Marley).
Falola,
Please outsource the moderating of this forum to us at Ekeukwu and
Arugo and you will see discipline. The fees would be moderate I assure
you. Nobody talks down on another when Dejango, Oba, Tenkobo and
ofcourse my humble self are arround.
Chidi Anthony Opara
"The best way to serve God is to serve humanity".
On Jul 16, 12:53 am, Amatoritsero Ede <
esula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Chidi,
>
> I know you are taking a swap at me. Wole Soyinka's name is not a patent. I
> dont care for your insouciance! In the Yoruba world a younger man does not
> begin to give nicknames to an elder. I know in Igbo culture you dont care
> much for age. I was pointing out that cultural fact. "The patent owners will
> soon descend on you", 'the patent owners' being Yoruba is what you
> insinuate? Must everything be given a tribalist slant. Dont you folks ever
> get tired?
>
> Amatoritsero
>
> On 15 July 2010 09:53, Chidi Anthony Opara <
chidi.op...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Dear forum members,
>
> > Coming from the Ekeukwu Owerri main market and Arugo motor park axis,
> > I would not know if "put down" is a normal practice in intellectual
> > discourse. What I know is that if you put someone down in any way, in
> > the name of intellectual or whatever disagreement, especially in
> > public, the person's esteem would be lowered and since no person
> > cherishes low esteem, this would activate the kind of fightback we are
> > witnessing between Biko, Ikhide, et al.
>
> > Can't we disagree without putting the other person down like we now do
> > in Ekeukwu and Arugo? I asked because I do not know
>
> > Last line to Biko: The name Wole Soyinka is a patent, the patent
> > owners will soon descend on you.
>
> > Chidi Anthony Opara
>
> > "The best way to serve God is to serve humanity".
>
> > On Jul 15, 11:27 am, Amatoritsero Ede <
esula...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > dis man,
>
> > > in your la-di-da, self-adulatory indignation, you keep writing, "Baba
> > Sho."
> > > On the one hand you laud; on the other you demean. Are you Soyinka's
> > bosom
> > > friend to be labeling him with nicknames? Do you know the shock in prof.
> > > soyinka's part of the world when you do this. Or are you an American
> > > fronting as an igbo defender? Stop dis yama-yama i beg.
>
> > > Amatoritsero
>
> > > On 13 July 2010 17:46, Biko Agozino <
bikoz...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Impish-Childish Payos and his boys,
>
> > > > It seems like you people like my name so much that you must call it
> > > > multiple times and find excuses to reply multiple times to my single
> > Ode to
> > > > Baba Sho. If the name sweet you so, make you name your son after me.
> > You
> > > > hear?
>
> > > > What makes you think that you call the shots on this or any other
> > forum?
> > > > You must think very highly of yourselves and we all agree that you are
> > a
> > > > great writers but you have no power to censor anyone who has something
> > to
> > > > say that you might find annoying. What annoys you so much is that I
> > said
> > > > that our Baba loves our people and that this love affair has been going
> > on
> > > > since his childhood. Why do you find that annoying? Are you annoyed
> > because
> > > > this love affair seems scandalous to you or are you annoyed because I
> > simply
> > > > stated the obvious? Now, you should take your koboko and
> > self-flaggerate
> > > > yourselves for being so arrogant that you assume that you could tell
> > folks
> > > > what to write about and how.
>
> > > > Your boy Ochonu, the mouthseeker-jobseeker who appears to be looking
> > for a
> > > > mouth to echo with no original thought of his own in his job-seeking
> > (as his
> > > > name implies), joins you in opposing the Pan African solution to the
> > > > genocidal state that imperialism imposed on us by imputing to me a
> > micro
> > > > nationalism that I do not subscribe to. Ocho mouth, say your own and
> > let me
> > > > say my own as Osadebe advised. At least you agree that the Igbo
> > genocide has
> > > > yet to be addressed in the interest of justice. How have you addfressed
> > it
> > > > with your own mouth, Mr Mouth-job-seeker?
>
> > > > Ochonu thinks that everything I have written is about the Igbo but he
> > must
> > > > be unfamiliar with my work as a criminologist. A simple bibliographic
> > search
> > > > will tell him that my scholarly focus is on injustice and the injustice
> > > > against NdiIgbo just happens to be one of them. From the Middle East to
> > the
> > > > Congo, Zimbabwe, Caribbean, the US, Ivory Coast, Bakassi, Nazism, black
> > > > women, apartheid, slavery, corruption, neocolonialism, Liberia, death
> > > > penalty, war on drugs to football law and the elimination of poverty, I
> > have
> > > > made my voice heard with clear emphasis on my preference for a united
> > Africa
> > > > as the terrain for better possibilities for us Africans. I have not
> > > > addressed every injustice but then who has?
>
> > > > Mr Ochomouth aka Ochojob wants to speak for Mamdani on his false claim
> > that
> > > > bigotry against Islam is everywhere to be found in Enugu but Mamdani is
> > > > quite capable of speaking for himself. Mr. Mouthseeker-Jobseeker claims
> > that
> > > > he grew up in Kano and knows for a fact that the Islamic militants only
> > > > target Christians and then asks if the Igbo are the only Christians in
> > Kano.
> > > > I do not know how he got the information that only Christians are
> > targeted
> > > > by militants (Bala Mohamned was lynched in Kano for his progressive
> > ideas
> > > > and he was neither Christian nor Igbo) and presumably Igbo pagans would
> > be
> > > > spared but he must know that the Igbo are the predominant group in the
> > > > migrant quarters in Kano and so whenever that quarter is targeted,
> > Christian
> > > > or not, the Igbo would be the most vulnerable to attack. This has
> > happened
> > > > again and again starting with Jos in 1945, then in the far North in
> > 1956
> > > > before the 1966 major events and has continued ever since periodically.
>
> > > > What solution does the mouth-seeker-job-seeker proffer for what is
> > > > obviously one of the Open Sores of A Continent? I have advocated mass
> > > > education and empowerment of the masses of poor Talakawas in the North
> > to
> > > > help them see that their Igbo neighbors are not their enemies. I have
> > also
> > > > advocated fair reparations tp be paid to the Igbo for their losses over
> > the
> > > > years. Finally, I have advocated that the peoples republic of Africa
> > should
> > > > be supported as a way of offering our people the democratic space to
> > move
> > > > freely, settle anywhere, run for office, trade, work, play, study,
> > marry and
> > > > raise a family without molestation the way it is in the USA today. If
> > you
> > > > disagree with any of these prescriptions of mine, present your own
> > > > prescriptions and let us examine them but none of these prescriptions
> > of
> > > > mine comes close to being an ethnic nationalist agenda. For your
> > > > information, what I advocate is not a prescription but a recognition
> > that
> > > > our people have already voted with their feet and can be found
> > throughout
> > > > Africa as they collectively disregard the disdainful colonial
> > boundaries.
> > > > What is left is for the elite to recognize this reality and
> > reconstitute the
> > > > peoples republic accordingly.
>
> > > > Crossed-Out Okigbo wannabe, XOkigbo, alias Nnamdi, Ikhide, thanks but
> > no
> > > > thanks for the dated bibliography from Kwenu.com and for your multiple
> > > > responses to one post of mine that you claim does not make sense to
> > you. If
> > > > you go through that list of 80 publications or more, you will not find
> > an
> > > > item from Soyinka or Iyayi, the two significant progressive creative
> > authors
> > > > who are not of Igbo origin that found the creative energy to address
> > this
> > > > monumental tragedy of ours. None of the items on your list is a
> > literary
> > > > theory of the genocidal war and the pogrom before it but you claim to
> > be an
> > > > expert on literature without a single publication on what is arguably
> > the
> > > > greatest tragedy that ever visited your country. In fact, Adichie
> > provides a
> > > > better bibliographic list as an appendix to her Half of a Yellow Sun
> > which
> > > > is pretty unusual for a novel but she was probably reassuring the
> > reader
> > > > that although she did not experience the war, she read the mostly
> > memoirs
> > > > that document the history. But the question for you is what you intend
> > to do
> > > > with your bibliography? Are you going to develop a curriculum to teach
> > the
> > > > lessons to be learned from this tragedy as part of the efforts to
> > prevent
> > > > future repeats? Or are you just going to continue pretending that you
> > are
> > > > the judge of literature who is out to correct the grammar of even Baba
> > Sho
> > > > and Ngugi without addressing the serious issues of injustice that they
> > have
> > > > been tackling for us? When next you visit kwenu.com, look beyond
> > > > bibliographic lists and visit their page on the wounded war veterans
> > who are
> > > > still left to languish in misery at Orji River with no program of
> > > > rehabilitation and only manage to survive on alms in a country that is
> > > > celebrating the 50th anniversary of failed leadership with billions of
> > > > naira. Are you against the call for reparations to be paid for the Igbo
> > > > genocide and if so, why? This is not an academic question that will be
> > > > solved with footnotes, book reviews and bibliographic lists, just add
> > your
> > > > voice if you care. Baba Sho got it right when he said that the man dies
> > in
> > > > all who keep silent in the face of tyrany.
>
> > > > For Ken, I would say thank you for being nice in saying that my Ode to
> > Baba
> > > > Sho is an excellent tribute. I appreciate it even if you said it to be
> > nice
> > > > but you are also right in implying later that excellence is overrated
> > as a
> > > > virtue given that perfection is often a mirage and there is always room
> > for
> > > > improvement, hence new editions of publications. If it is any comfort
> > to
> > > > you, others have also told me that the tribute is excellent and that
> > they
> > > > would be proud to attract such a tribute as a birthday wish. It is not
> > often
> > > > that the birthday wish for a great writer-activist charts a new
> > territory in
> > > > the interpretation of his work. The shock that the pretentious literary
> > > > tyrants are expressing here is because they did not perceive this theme
> > in
> > > > Soyinka's work before I alerted them. Instead of thanking me for
> > educating
> > > > them free of charge and asking their graduate schools for refunds, they
> > > > started shouting that I appear to be an illegal immigrant in their
> > imaginary
> > > > literary country and that I must be deported from the discourse that
> > they
> > > > wrongly see as exclusively theirs. Go and check out the large body of
> > > > secondary theories on Soyinka's work and you will find nothing that
> > comes
> > > > close to my perspective on the centrality of the Igbo motif in his
> > work.
> > > > That is what is called an original thesis and I await to read the many
> > > > doctoral dissertations that will attempt to develop this theme. Payos
> > and
> > > > his boys are blinded by bad belle hiubris and so cannot see clearly. na
> > > > jealousy dey worry them because now their students will have to cite me
> > in
> > > > their bibliography.
>
> > > > For Baba Sho, I say no mind them. Thank you for loving our people. We
> > want
> > > > you to know that we love you too and we wish you many more happy
> > returns.
>
> > > > Biko
>
> > > > --- On *Tue, 7/13/10, Pius Adesanmi <
piusadesa...@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
> > > > From: Pius Adesanmi <
piusadesa...@yahoo.com>
>
> > > > Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Ode to Soyinka @ 76
> > > > To:
usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> > > > Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 9:51 AM
>
> > > > Alagba Agozino:
>
> > > > Deopka Ikhide is right. The man sef must be getting tired to have
> > reviewed
> > > > your work so positively. Many bad books and bad pieces of writing have
> > been
> > > > lucky to live to tell the story after being reviewed Deopka Ikhide.
> > But,
> > > > abeg, biko oga Biko, is this not the annoying blog I advised you to
> > rework?
> > > > Is this not the text that even Nwanna Obi Nwakanma - of all people! -
> > was
> > > > careful to avoid in this forum - not wanting to run the risk of
> > encountering
> > > > the sjambok I had ready for him?
>
> > > > The trouble with this blog is squarely one of wild, runaway claims. You
> > > > cannot just cobble together every sentence Soyinka has ever written
> > about
> > > > the Igbo and the Igbo world, declare him an Igbophiliac - like he is
> > any
> > > > less Fulaniphilic or Zuluphilic or any
>
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