Thursday, July 29, 2010

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: THE QUESTION OF ONLINE GROUPS FOR PRACTICAL AND THEORETICAL DISCUSSION OF AFRICANA SPIRITUAL AND MAGICAL PRACTICE

Toyin,

If I didn't tell you that I'm worried about some of the devious groups
that you have mentioned, then I'd be lying to myself. I'm sure that
I'm not the only one who is worried. Other good friends and well-
wishers must be equally worried.

To tell you the truth, ever since you mentioned this guy Aleister
Crowley, some time ago, I've been worried about you.

Please tell me that it isn't so

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=iceweasel-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial&&sa=X&ei=e9xRTNr2OYaUOOvCsdUE&ved=0CBoQBSgA&q=Aleister+Crowley&spell=1


On Jul 27, 9:34 pm, toyin adepoju <toyin.adep...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> I get the impression that online groups that openly discuss theory and
> practice in African or Africana derived spiritual traditions are not easy to
> find.Out of the few I have found it seems fewer still are  active. .The
> active ones I belong to are Orisa Ifa Olodumare,Followers of Ifa
> Orunmila,African-American Wiccans,Black Power Satanism,Credo
> Mutwa,Tewagi-Schools
> of Unified Learning and Voodoo-l.
>
> I tried to join a particular  one that looks active,Temple of the Luciferian
> Vampire, but without success
>
> Of the other groups I belong to Evocational Magics is a very rich group that
> welcomes different traditions and some practitioners describe their
> experiences with African Diaspora spiritual traditions.
>
> The limitations I have had with finding groups that discuss experiences and
> theory in Africana(both African and African Diaspora) traditions is
> highlighted by my experiences of getting banned from or cautioned partly for
> posting Africana material to groups which ostensibly have to do with
> spirituality as a whole but which in practice are centred on Western
> traditions.
>
> The open discussion of knowledge is central to how knowledge grows. Africans
> need to discuss their explorations of spiritual realities so they can
> contribute to each other's knowledge and that of the world.
>
> Again,the West seems to be ahead of Africa in this regard as they have been
> in science,technology and the development of widespread forms of
> writing.Western magical and divinatory traditions have been  central to the
> development of Western science.They also provide possibilities of a variety
> of ways of arriving at knowledge that people can draw on in various aspects
> of life.
>
> At the centre of the Western approach to practical magic and mysticism,not
> only religion,is the gradual development of an intellectual and practical
> tradition led by practitioners and scholars.
>
> It is most thrilling reading the accounts of spiritual/magical practice in
> Evocational Magics,Joy of Satan and its subsidiaries  such as Advanced
> Meditation,in Solomonic etc.The efforts of members to analyze their
> experiences and informing assumptions is also most eye opening.Such sharing
> and analysis is at the centre of the development, systematization and
> dissemination of knowledge.
>
> I am eager to find more groups where practitioners of Voodoo,Orisa
> traditions,Bini spirituality and other Africana centered traditions  etc
> come together to discuss their explorations.
>
> It would be wonderful to hear more from the Africa/Africana traditions
> regardless of the race of their practitioners.
>
> It would be particularly valuable to learn about personal experiences that
> demonstrate or suggest encounters with aspects of existence not ordinarily
> accessible to human beings such as  altered states of
> consciousness,invocation of spirits,divinatory experiences,healing,spiritual
> combat,unusual dreams,projection of consciousness,astral travel,spirit
> visitations,journeys to other dimensions,communication  with inanimate forms
> of sentience such as trees and other natural forms,among others.
>
> thanks
> toyin

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