Thank you very much Obododimma.I have only just seen this beceause I was offline for about a week.
The way you have put the correspondences that stimulate you in this subject is very exciting.
A number of ideas occur to me in relation to your probing puzzlement on relationships between geometry and spirituality.
I will respond fully soon.
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On 29 August 2010 12:06, Obododimma Oha <obodooha@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your response, Toyin. Your post stimulated my thinking concerning the patterns in spiritual art in many indigenous traditions and the laws that might be operating within or generating those patterns. I asked the question because I needed to know whether one could also think about the geometry of shapes created by these priest- or priestess-artists as occasioning a semiosis of engagement with given spiritual forces. I am also inclined to view the designs by spiritual artists like the Igiohen of as implicit visual theories on the production and application of spiritual energies.I find your attempt to reconcile the principles underlying the designs of Igiohen Madame Aigbovia and Albert Einstein's Theory of Relativity quite exciting. I am not quite sure now how to develop a system linking the cognitive and communicative worlds of both figures, though. I have to got back and read Einstein properly and explore some relevant zones of the Tao of Physics. One should not be in a hurry to say things about their relationship at this stage. But I think you are on a path that great minds have trod. Keep walking!Regards.Obododimma.On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 4:34 PM, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> wrote:
Brilliant. Could you further develop this insight to cover the geometric parameters in indigenous mapping of routes to spiritual
forces?
Thanks.
ObododimmaThanks Obododimma.I recently stumbled on your essay on Esu in relation to contemporary social contexts .I have not finished reading it but its lucidity and the intriguing nature of its ideas is clear.On the point you made about the texts I juxtaposed. Your comments are most intriguing.Could you please expand on them so I can chew on what you have in mind?A lot of the material that one finds in science,particularly scientific cosmology,like the Einstein quote I used, reads like the poetic and ideationally dazzling chanting of wizards.To me,they are in a world of their own.Even though I did not think it through so carefully,I think I wanted to suggest the fundamental relationship between the sensitivity to the celestial bodies,in relation to a cosmology that integrates the material and the spiritual, finite space and time and the infinite represented by Olokun graphic art and the Einstein quote,in spite of the significant but,in my view, ultimately reconcilable differences between the different cognitive cultures represented by Igiohen Madame Aigbovia and Einstein,the iconic figure of scientific genius of the last 100 years.Is it possible to develop a system that unifies the cognitive and communicative worlds represented by these two figures, appreciating their differences and yet perhaps facilitating the development of new knowledge in both cognitive zones?thankstoyin--On 27 August 2010 11:26, Obododimma Oha <obodooha@gmail.com> wrote:Brilliant. Could you further develop this insight to cover the
geometric parameters in indigenous mapping of routes to spiritual
forces?
Thanks.
Obododimma
On Thursday, August 26, 2010, toyin adepoju
<toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> wrote:> Albert Einsten,"Cosmological Considerations on the General Theory of Relativity <http://library.du.ac.in/dspace/bitstream/1/1581/3/Ch08-Cosmological%20considerations%20on%20the%20general%20theory%20of%20relativity.pdf>" in On the Shoulders of Giants: The Great Works of Physics and Astronomy <http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=pb6HR4DAEeMC&dq=On+the+Shoulders+of+Giants:+The+Great+Works+of+Physics+and+Astronomy&hl=en&ei=Vet1TPCYO9uJOOqEocYG&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CC8Q6AEwAA>. ed Stephen Hawking.Philadelphia:Running Press,2002.1248-1264.1249
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>> "Impermanent by Design: The Ephemeral in Africa's Tradition-based Arts <http://www.mitpressjournals.org/doi/abs/10.1162/afar.2010.43.1.14>" by Christine Mullen Kreamer
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