Ibironke,
"It is thus on the record that in the desperate struggle of people in North Africa to throw off the yoke of oppression, certain AfriKan intellectuals were solidly on the side of their oppressors!!!"
This is where you miss the import of this discussion. No one contends that struggling people cannot throw away the yoke of oppression. The methodology is the question, and the forked tongue of the imperialist nations of the world? Yes, the lack of moral authority of an external bully nation to inject herself into the authentic struggle of a people who may have reasons for clamoring for a change in leadership.
Dancing around this matter as if economic interests were not the motivation for the West's involvement is disingenuous and places on record the Janus face of some African intellectuals, who would rather follow than to lead!
Steve Nwabuzor
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From: "Jaye Gaskia " <ogbegbe@yahoo.com>
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 3:48:23 AM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - President Museveni Discusses Libya &Gaddafi: A Must Read
It is neither western nor eastern; northern nor southern, to identify in thought what exists in reality: the presence in human communities of oppressors and oppressed; exploiters and exploited; those who control power and wealth, and those who lack wealth and power.
And whereas a particular country's leadership may be anti imperialist in its relationship with the power centres of imperialism; within the country itself, that leadership may actually be the repressive representative of the exploiting and oppressing classes superintending on a very inhuman systems which simultaneously produces massive wealth in a few hands, and mass misery among the generality of citizens.
Jaye
From: kenneth harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 25, 2011 3:29:29 AM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - President Museveni Discusses Libya &Gaddafi: A Must Read
there is no such thing as a western way of thinking.
there are lots of problematic ways to put together knowledge, but it isn't geography that creates it, and even history's role is a divided one.
to lock us in to such formulae is to arrest critical thought.
ken
On 3/24/11 6:13 PM, ROSEMARY MWENJA wrote:
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Who is the oppressor and who is not? You are allowing yourself to be drawn into the Western way of thinking, The fact of the matter is that this is an internal matter and very suspect at how it started. Who are these rebels? What is their agenda? How different is what they want from what Qaddafi is offering? Where does the West get the moral authority to support one group against another in a domesticated matter unless they are behind the insurgence in the first place?
--- On Thu, 3/24/11, Olabode Ibironke <ibironke@msu.edu> wrote:
From: Olabode Ibironke <ibironke@msu.edu>
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - President Museveni Discusses Libya &Gaddafi: A Must Read
To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, March 24, 2011, 2:11 PM
"I wonder how the US would react if the KKK were to rise up against the 'White House because a black man is the president', as noted by Louis Farrakhan?" Steve NwabuzorThis is the typical clannish mentality that is destroying progressive politics in Africa. All you need to do is invoke neocolonialism [or otherness etc] and suddenly comrades Mugabe and Museveni become heroes and spiritual masters that intellectuals begin to recite. Is the above not the exact content of Gaddafi's letter to Obama when he said 'if Al-Qaida [read KKK] were to challenge your authority tell me what you would do and I would follow your example.' It is thus on the record that in the desperate struggle of people in North Africa to throw off the yoke of oppression, certain AfriKan intellectuals were solidly on the side of their oppressors!!!--
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