Saturday, June 25, 2011

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - libya and mercenaries

Latest : It's un-likely that Gaddafi will emerge from the dust of
battle triumphant. There's also the ICC waiting for him, come Monday.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2011/06/25/154730.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2007865/Gaddafi-tracked-lair-lair-Nato.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

"those who had been held by the rebels on those grounds were
gradually released on the basis that they were recruited workers, not
fighters. and there is a report of such an individual being
maltreated
and hung, and 5 chadians being set on fire in benghazi.
there have been expressions of concern about human rights abuses from
the un council of human rights (french representative mattei). racist
sentiments were apparently inflamed. apparently both sides have used
sentiments against subsaharan workers, identified by their skin color
and national origin." ( Prof Harrow)

Curiously enough, the above promotes this reply:

"When those of us who know folks on the ground and Al-Jazeera reported
that these racist Arab Libyans hate Afrikans/Blacks so much that one
of their agenda to subject them to a Holocaust, which they had already
began, we were dismissed as Ghaddafi puppets. But as the saying goes,
the truth can never be hidden forever. But, Insha'Allah, those racist
Arab Libyans and their equally racist supporters in the US, France and
Britain will not triumph." ( Kotoh Abdul Bangura)

It is unfortunate that Khotoh Bangura goes out of his way in insisting
and continuing to insist that it is the so called "Rebels" who are
racist and Gaddafi's pure supporters are absolutely not – even (God
forbid) should they be sent down to Africa South of the Sahara to
quell a local rebellion there and be shot at by Black Africans.....

At some point, Dr. Gloria Emeagwali has spoken of the
"pigmentationally diverse" - pigmentational diversity and indeed the
people of Libya are not of a uniform colour. I have friends from
Libya, Algeria and Iraq who are of the colour of the Rev. Dr. Martin
Luther King.

We've been here before:

http://groups.google.com/group/usaafricadialogue/browse_thread/thread/43c9cecbfbdc04e1/ec8b1a6f106478ba?lnk=gst&q=#ec8b1a6f106478ba


http://groups.google.com/group/usaafricadialogue/browse_thread/thread/d61dd2ceb9cca2c2/6caafa687bdbba4a?lnk=gst&q=#6caafa687bdbba4a

The fact of the matter is that if you have a black African mercenary
or two or three fighting on Gaddafi's side and firing on the so called
rebels, then the so called rebels will fire back – at the one who is
on the wrong side of the conflict. I'm sure that Khotoh Bangura
himself would fire back , no matter what side he was supporting at the
various stages of the Sierra Leone conflict. I myself would fire back
on Khotoh Bangura – and hopefully his ghost would not come to haunt me
and accuse me of racism.

Since my first visit to Sweden in July 1970 – till now, I've met
exactly one racist: he was in the Swedish army serving in the Congo
and had been fired upon by black people who were intent on killing
him, right there in the jungle. He said that his life in the Congo was
a nightmare. And he still hates black people because of that. Well,
you can imagine if Gaddafi and his "pigmentationally diverse" boys
had invaded Sweden!

The "pigmentationally diverse" are capable of playing in the same
football team or singing in the same choir. But war is a quite
different thing.

It's the nature of war – irrespective of colour or shades of darkness
or even camouflage, it's one side against the other and in the famous
last words of Gaddafi junior, "We will fight until the last man, the
last woman, the last bullet "

It's not so much that Gaddafi is fighting " to defend his
sovereignty" - he is merely fighting against his own people who want
to overthrow him and his system of government. If he were truly
committed to defending his sovereignty, he would have brought down a
NATO plane or two. But he's afraid to do that, since that would be
tantamount to declaring war on NATO. For the same reason, he dare not
commit any terrorist act on NATO soil. That would also be an act of
war, a declaration of war, and the war on terrorism would be waged on
him ( not just protecting Libyan civilians)

Going back to February 21, 2011, the charge remains: its still about
Libya's brutal use of deadly force against those protesting the
Gaddafi regime.

http://groups.google.com/group/usaafricadialogue/browse_thread/thread/12d3ff35ec8f925b/74d20159d541e42e?lnk=gst&q=#74d20159d541e42e


On Jun 24, 8:16 pm, "Abdul Bangura" <th...@earthlink.net> wrote:
> Thanks a heap for this piece, Mwalimu Harrow. Le Monde's acknowledgment is too little too late. When those of us who know folks on the ground and Al-Jazeera reported that these racist Arab Libyans hate Afrikans/Blacks so much that one of their agenda to subject them to a Holocaust, which they had already began, we were dismissed as Ghaddafi puppets. But as the saying goes, the truth can never be hidden forever. But, Insha'Allah, those racist Arab Libyans and their equally racist supporters in the US, France and Britain will not triumph.
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: kenneth harrow <har...@msu.edu>
> > To: usaafricadialogue <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: 6/24/2011 7:24:54 AM
> > Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - libya and mercenaries
>
> > in today's Le Monde there is an important article citing the amnesty
> > international researcher donatella rovera. she investigated the claims
> > about "african," i .e., subsaharan black african mercenaries paid to
> > fight for ghaddafi. her conclusion was that that claim is very largely
> > overstated, more of a propaganda claim than one based on any substantial
> > evidence. those who had been held by the rebels on those grounds were
> > gradually released on the basis that they were recruited workers, not
> > fighters. and there is a report of such an individual being maltreated
> > and hung, and 5 chadians being set on fire in benghazi.
> > there have been expressions of concern about human rights abuses from
> > the un council of human rights (french representative mattei). racist
> > sentiments were apparently inflamed. apparently both sides have used
> > sentiments against subsaharan workers, identified by their skin color
> > and national origin.
> > ken
>
> > --
> > kenneth w. harrow
> > distinguished professor of english
> > michigan state university
> > department of english
> > east lansing, mi 48824-1036
> > ph. 517 803 8839
> > har...@msu.edu
>
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