Wednesday, December 3, 2014

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: [NaijaPolitics] Nobel Prize Committee doctors Soyinka’s interview calling Achebe a monster, who would hang a Nobel Laureate

Here's the interview in question in which the Nobel Laureate says,

"I'm standing by, ready to receive it, but as I said now, it's a problem, it's a real problem and then expectations and then you have monsters like Sani Abacha who come up from time to time and who would have died a happy man if he'd succeeded in hanging a Nobel Laureate for literature!

Transcript of interview with Wole Soyinka, 28th April 2005

To verify its authenticity of his words you are at liberty to check the video version of the interview  to see and hear Mr Soyinka saying,

"I'm standing by, ready to receive it, but as I said now, it's a problem, it's a real problem and then expectations and then you have monsters like Sani Abacha who come up from time to time and who would have died a happy man if he'd succeeded in hanging a Nobel Laureate for literature!"



On Tuesday, 2 December 2014 01:05:22 UTC+1, oluifayantra wrote:
Uduma Kalu,


Soyinka on Achebe 


With controversial issues like the case you are making, a way to help clinch one's argument is to take a screen shot, a picture of the web page where the evidence being referred to is and tender that evidence to make one's case.

That way, even if the evidence is altered, one has a picture of its previous state.

As it is, all we have is your claim and that of the chap at the link you gave that Soyinka made that unlikely statement.

You also gave a link to the Nobel Prize website as a source where the evidence can be found, in  seeming contradiction to your claim that the evidence has been removed from that site.

If any such evidence, not just allegations, exists, people would like to see them.

The claim you are making and the story you and the writer you linked are building out of the claim is a practically  impossible claim bcs Soyinka's attitude to Achebe and his references to Achebe  are well known.

Soyinka has never been petty in relation to Achebe.

On what seems to be the effort of the writer at the link you gave to see Soyinka as tribalistic, take note that Soyinka was in jail for most of the war bcs the Federal govt believed his conduct and orientation was against their interests in the prosecution of the war, a view that is almost certainly factual.

He has consistently made a case against the massacre of the Igbos in Northern Nigeria, one of the causes of the Nigerian Civil War.


Soyinka and Achebe : Scope of Achievement 


On the Nobel Prize, Soyinka is clearly a greater writer than Achebe.

I think the evidence is incontrovertible. 

In terms of  depth of creative power across various literary genres, the number of works and variety of genres  in which Soyinka is able to reach his highest creative capacities, and the sheer variety of literary  techniques he is able to skilfully employ as represented by each of these highest notes of creative  expression and in his range of work in general, Soyinka is far ahead of Achebe.

Soyinka has great works of global stature in almost every genre, except perhaps prose  fiction, where Achebe is stronger.

Even then, in the history of African literature, Soyinka's prose fiction must be mentioned on account of its subjects, themes and its technical creativity. 

In prose fiction, Achebe's greatest works, in my view of those I have read, are the novel Arrow of God and the short story, "The Madman".

These are works that can stand beside the greatest works  in world literature, not equal to them all, but not paling beside the power of those other giants. 

Things Fall Apart is a great work, too, but I wonder if its as powerful as Arrow of God.

I have not read his Anthills of the Savannah and so cant comment on it.  

The other genre where Achebe has great works is the essay.

His greatest essays, in my view,  of those known to me, are two essays on classical Igbo philosophy, "Chi in Igbo Cosmology", "The Igbo World and its Art"  and another in which he  draws on Fulani  mythology, "Language and the Destiny of Man".

One could add his essay on Christopher Okigbo " Dont Let Him Die".

His other essays are good, some very good perhaps, but I wont rank them at the level of those other  tree.

Achebe is likely to have other essays which I have not read either bcs they are unpublished or I have not seen them in publication.

In poetry, he has some impressive poems, most memorable  being "Refugee  Mother and Child" but I doubt if his other poems stand out. The poems of his I know of were all published in one collection. I dont know of others outside  that collection.

I have not read Achebe's  There was a Country  and so cant comment on it, but it would make little or no difference to the case I am making.

Soyinka, on the other hand, if he had written only the three philosophical essays out of the five, I think,   in Myth, Literature and the African World,  if he had published only his poetry in  Shuttle  in the Crypt, only his autobiographical  prose work  The Man Died, or only his play Death and the Kings Horseman, would have earned a place among the greatest in world literature from the earliest times to the present.

One could add   his  Idanre and other Poems   as a work that must be mentioned in African literature. 

I have not read some of Soyinka's famous works such as his play The Road and his autobiographical Ibadan, among others.

The consistency of his standard across genres, however, implies adding such works strengthens  my assessment.

When you add Soyinka's other essays as those in  Art, Dialogue and Outrage,  his full complement of serious plays, from The Swamp Dwellers to Madmen and Specialists, and perhaps others published after those,  and his comic plays,   the Jero plays and others perhaps, the landscape is clear.

That's my view at least.


Soyinka and Achebe : Critical Relationships With  Informing World Views


Achebe may be seen, in his best work, as approaching  philosophical themes in a more tentative, more critical, more questioning manner than Soyinka, while Soyinka's work may be seen as  boosted by his total identification with the philosophical ideas he was working with.

Within that context, Achebe may be seen as  not drawing  on the scope of creativity Soyinka does bcs Achebe is less certain of the validity of the self assurance of the Igbo world view he drew on, preferring to challenge its integrity in the name of respect for both human dignity and the paradoxes of human life and nature, while Soyinka was fully immersed in the celebration of Yoruba philosophy and spirituality.

He reaches great heights with this and with ideational distillations, later in his career,  that go beyond his focus in  Yoruba thought.

Perhaps I could revise my views later in considering Achebe as a more modern writer, achieving a greater balance of intellect, faith and  imagination in relation to belief systems.


thanks

toyin










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