SO,
You may want to read Rex Maximus' post at 8:57 a.m. today.
oa
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Segun Ogungbemi
Sent: Wednesday, April 08, 2015 6:49 AM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Baboon of the Lagoon
oa,
Try to understand the traditional and cultural values of the Yoruba and it will be well with all of us. It is an aberration of the highest order to insult the Crown no matter what the person who wears it says.
The Yoruba have a way of reaching the person who wears the Crown if his behavior and utterances are not in consonant with the tradition.
The Igbo have their own traditions and it will amount to disrespect if those who live among them fail to recognize its values.
Note oa, this is not the time for any tension driven argument.
Lagos should have not been made the capital of Nigeria.
If Lokoja had remained the capital of Nigeria, the issue of who owns Lagos would have not arisen.
The fact that the Yoruba accommodate all ethnic nationalities does not mean that they have given their territory as co-owners to non indigenes. The line of demarcation must be drawn. Let it be made clear here oa, what you cannot allow non indigenes to do in your own territory, don't do it in someone's domain.
Let those who want to go to The Hague do so. We will remain here and eat our amala and pounded yam with egusi soup. By the time they come back, there will be nothing left for them to fight for.
Prof. Segun Ogungbemi
On Apr 7, 2015, at 11:12 PM, "Anunoby, Ogugua" <AnunobyO@lincolnu.edu> wrote:
Wrong is wrong.
The least anyone should do before alleging disrespect of a leader dripping with envy and hatred of hard working fellow citizens, is condemn this hater-leader. True respect is earned and not inherited. Who in their right mind would respect a former senior police office and Lawyer, now an Oba, who willfully and for personal gain, breaks Nigeria's electoral laws, violates the Nigerian constitution, threatens fellow citizens with death by drowning in the cesspools that use to be lagoons, and swears in the name of his late father that his curse will come to pass in no more than seven days.
This Oba is a disgrace to traditional leadership. Everyone right thinking person should condemn him unequivocally. He is not deserving of the respect of any law abiding person. What else does this man have to say or do to be seen criminally violent, evil, and undeserving of the high traditional position that he occupies in one of the world's most metropolitan of cities.
The man is an unadulterated apostle of the "politics with bitterness" that true Nigerians are working hard to make a thing of the past. A contributor to this forum if I remember correctly has a quotation postscript that remind us that evil triumphs because good people do not condemn it.
I salute Femi Falana for his prompt condemnation of this very shameless, arrogant, and vile man masquerading as a traditional leader.
oa
From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Segun Ogungbemi
Sent: Tuesday, April 07, 2015 4:37 PM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Baboon of the Lagoon
Okey, I believe no intellectual leader will support any language of diatribe as it is alleged, it is equally disrespectful of someone to call a Royal Father a baboon. Come on Okey!
Prof. Segun Ogungbemi
On Apr 7, 2015, at 4:00 PM, Okey Iheduru <okeyiheduru@gmail.com> wrote:Mr. Rilwan Akiolu, this man who has made this vile genocidal speech worse than what anyone ever did in Rwanda, is "one of the most highly respected Royal Fathers in Yorubaland and in Nigeria". Are serious? I was thinking we can do better than this, Prof. Ogungbemi!
Peace as always!
On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:52 AM, Segun Ogungbemi <seguno2013@gmail.com> wrote:
There is need for caution here. It is an aberration of the highest order to call or address an Oba a baboon. Whatever the merit of the argument, insulting one of the most highly respected Royal Fathers in Yorubaland and in Nigeria by anyone is despicable. 'Biko Agozino should first of all withdraw the description of His Royal Majesty the Oba of Lagos a baboon.
This inflammatory description can cause mayhem if care is not taken. It is therefore demanded that Biko Agozino withdraws it with an apology.
Prof. Segun Ogungbemi
On Apr 7, 2015, at 10:42 AM, "'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series" <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:A baboon has threatened to drown masses of Igbo citizens of Nigeria in the lagoon if they do not vote for his preferred candidate for the governor of Lagos State. This is a leadership moment for President Jonathan and the President-elect, Buhari, to show leadership by repudiating such a brazen terroristic threat against model citizens who have ventured immensely to help build a modern nation and who have suffered unprovoked genocidal violence repeatedly in the history of Nigeria. Leaders should call for the arrest, dethronement and prosecution of the Oba of Lagos for this hate speech; apologize to the Igbo for past wrongs especially during the civil war when 3.1 million were estimated to have died with their young women abducted, their properties destroyed or seized, and their life-savings withheld. Propose a law against any denial of the Igbo genocide and against genocidal threats and establish the Igbo Reparations Fund along with the creation of the sixth state in the South East for the sake of geopolitical equity. Other Nigerian groups have been offered reparations for lesser wrongs and the continued denial of fair reparations to the Igbo who have suffered most may be contributing to the entrenchment of the culture of terrorism in Nigeria. Show some leadership now!
Biko
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