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USA Africa Dialogue Series - China and India have a huge problem with racism toward black people

China and India have a huge problem with racism toward black people

Just minutes before his birthday, Masonda Ketanda Olivier was beaten to death. The Congolese national was confronted by a mob of men late at night last Friday in New Delhi and killed. Police said the incident was a dispute over the hiring of an autorickshaw; Olivier's friend, an Ivorian national, said it was a clear hate crime, with racial epithets repeatedly invoked.

This week, irate African diplomats in the Indian capital pointed to Olivier's murder as evidence of wider discrimination and bigotry against black people who visit and live in India. Olivier, who reports indicate was about to turn 24, was teaching French.

"The Indian government is strongly enjoined to take urgent steps to guarantee the safety of Africans in India including appropriate programmes of public awareness that will address the problem of racism and Afro-phobia in India," Alem Tsehage, the Eritrean ambassador and the diplomat representing other African envoys in New Delhi, said in a statement. They also warned against new batches of African students enrolling in Indian universities.

A number of African diplomats chose to boycott a planned event celebrating the history of India-Africa ties on Thursday.

On the same day, on the other side of the Himalayas, an ad for a Chinese laundry detergent went viral.

The Chinese detergent ad that has sparked international outrage

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A Chinese laundry detergent ad went viral and has prompted backlash for its racist implications. (Thomas Johnson/The Washington Post)

It is shockingly racist: The video, which you can watch above, shows a fetching Chinese woman lure a paint-stained, lascivious African man toward her. She briefly toys with him before shoving a detergent capsule into his mouth and him into the machine. Out emerges a fresh-faced Chinese man, looking sparkling white and clean.

The backlash to the ad has been swift in English-language media circles, with the Shanghaist highlighting it as yet another display of blatant racism in China that "can leave you completely and utterly dumbfounded."

These two separate episodes, a murder in Delhi and a callous video in Chinese cyberspace, shouldn't be seen as isolated incidents. Rather, they are features of a prevailing theme: the inescapable racism and ignorance faced by Africans in both countries.

India and China represent two of the world's most dynamic, booming economies. Their populations jointly comprise a third of humanity. The countries both consider themselves now finding their rightful place in the world after centuries in the shadow of an imperial West. Part of their economic rise has seen both nations build robust ties with countries in Africa.

For Beijing and New Delhi, the continent is an important arena not just for trade, but for the exercise of soft power and wider geopolitical goals.

Yet many Africans who have come in the tens of thousands to China and India as students and businessmen, petty merchants and backpackers, complain of persistent racism.

In February, a Tanzanian woman was stripped and beaten by a mob in Bangalore after a Sudanese man, in an entirely separate incident, was believed to have hit a local with his car.

Last year, an Indian publication put together a moving, sad video, below, of testimony from African students and professionals about their experience of daily discrimination. It also includes 2014 footage of a mob in a Delhi metro station attacking three black men with sticks, while chanting nationalist slogans.

"It's like I have a disease," says one student in the video.

In China, it's a similar picture. In a 2013 account, an African American English teacher recounted his students complaining about their instructor: "I don't want to look at his black face all night," one said.

Africans across the country, whether on university campuses or elsewhere, have also been subject to attack and abuse. Growing merchant communities in certain cities, such as in the southern metropolis of Guangzhou, rub up against a wider population that is ethnically homogenous and largely unfamiliar with the diversity and history of black populations elsewhere.

The African community in Guangzhou has taken to the streets to protest unfair treatment on a number of occasions, including in 2009 after the death of a Nigerian man fleeing a police raid and in 2012 after another man died mysteriously in police custody.

A comedy group based in Shanghai produced a video regarding Chinese stereotypes about black people.

While India is home to a dizzyingly diverse, multiethnic and multilingual society, prejudice abounds. Africans experience the same crude cocktail of ignorance and bias toward "whiteness" as their counterparts in China. The Indian government has promised a swift and judicious investigation into Olivier's murder.

Meanwhile, there's an underlying irony to the Chinese detergent ad. As the Shanghaiist reports, it's a blatant copy of an older Italian commercial, which drew the opposite, albeit similarly awkward, conclusion: "Colored is better."

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SteveSailer
According to the UN, the population of sub-Saharan Africa will explode from 0.5 billion in 1990 to 4.0 billion in 2100. Judging from these commercials, who is more likely to hold on to their countries: Europeans or East Asians? 
Katy Cordeth
6:39 AM CDT
I'm not entirely sure what "hold on to" means in this context. Mass immigration does not necessarily mean a takeover. People immigrate to countries, or emigrate from them; the countries may change, often for the better, but no takeover has occurred. The world's population is getting exponentially bigger, and we have to deal with it as adults.
M.Collins
7:19 AM CDT [Edited]
'zat you, Steve, of iSteve?
Asymmetric
Not so long ago, a black man is choked to death by a policeman in New York. The entire episode is recorded on a camera and in the wonderful American justice system there was no case for even a trial. There was no recourse, no appeals courts and that was that. Now, this is institutionalized racism and it's lot worse than racism of individuals in China and India.
worldTraveller
6:22 AM CDT
If you have noticed in US , you could see articles of racism in us in US news papers every day. But in US people are confronting it. In inida, unlike china, racism is too deep rooted and based on hinduism. Hindus consider blacks are polluted or 'avarnas'. Dalits in india , equivalent of Black in Jim Crow era or slavery era is treated like worst imaginable way. But the upper cast who came to US by using the benefit of slave labour the dalits provide is all too happy to cry racism here. Here is the video of dalit, first clean up India 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZxAAAiJdg 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_ehD92C-s 
 
M.Collins
7:14 AM CDT [Edited]
How's things over in China? 
 
India has a vastly larger affirmative action program for Dalits than we have for minorities, and has had it from the day its Constitution was adopted in 1950, at times reserving up to 50% of jobs for historically oppressed castes. 
 
Unlike the Jim Crow era there is neither legal segregation nor voter suppression. Indeed, the Dalits have always voted in significant numbers.  
 
The Indian press and media are vigorous in reporting social ills, and all our news about these problems comes from the English-language media in India. 
 
And you seem to have totally overlooked the fact the the video in the article was created by an Indian media channel and the article written by the son of a prominent Indian politician. 
 
There are social ills in India, as there are in other countries including our own, but it's absurd to say that Indians don't confront them, while Americans do. 
 
David Farrell
Not all Africans are black, and not all black people are from Africa. Please stop using the term African to refer to black people. The terms "African" and "black" are not interchangeable. There are many different races in Africa, not just black.
Asymmetric
If there is persistent racism in India and China towards Africans, what do they keep coming in large numbers? Nationals of some Africans countries figure consistently in the visa over stayers in India.  
How about an article on criminal activities of Africans( and other foreigners) in India? Nah, we will never see that. 
im azn
It began as a prelude to interracial porn. Instead I saw something that I found very offensive and while I don't wish the advert's creator to go to the seventh circle of hell, I worry that Chinese will become the new Nazis on God's green planet.
im azn
new tech learned: racism 
motivation: ego trip. 
Frederick Kiel
The U.S. government should re-institute the draft and draft all social justice warriors from the Ivy League and other elite colleges and send them all over for two year terms of service to India and China to end racism, as they have "successfully" done on their campuses in violent, racist USA. Simple solution. I'm sure the Chinese and Indians would welcome the lectures of our students with open arms.
Jyoti Sukhija Bhalla
It's better if u would have included USA with these two. Whole world knows how USA is treating it's black population and traditional indians of the land. USA can't escape by just electing a black president once in many centuries. USA police and whites are deeply against blacks and rising protests by blacks should be addressed fairly by usa govt.
bobboberson
6:15 AM CDT
lol
worldTraveller
6:27 AM CDT
The whole world know how indians treats there lower cast. Around 300 milliion people in Inida are treated as untouchables. Because according to hinduism they are 'avarnas' . And upper cast people are 'savarna' or of good color. In us , racism is a continuing conversation and even Indians now want to immigrate to here, en mass. If here is racism, why many Indians want be here.  
In india, it is common that upper cast people rape dalit women every day.http://www.democracynow.org/2015/9/29/a_voice_for_... 
And dalits are even not allowed to get constitutionally allowed protection in many places. Untouchability is widely practiced and their priest oppenly advocates for it , here is the video 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKZxAAAiJdg  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz_ehD92C-s  
Manivannan Sadasivam
Washington Post should try and explore this angle: The Hindu scriptures (Rig Veda/ Purushasukta/ Varnashrama) treat fair skin favorably. Religious sanction is the source of India's problems with racist attitudes. Given a virulent and paranoid Hindu right, not many journalists in India would attempt to explore this subject.
Jyoti Sukhija Bhalla
3:02 AM CDT
What religious sanction? Most of the popular Hindu Gods Krishna, Ram, Shiva, Kali are proudly and celebrated dark skinned Gods and Goddesses. Your half knowledge is more dangerous than no knowledge.
Randy Sliker
My wife is Chinese,, I never said anything about Blacks to her when she arrived in the USA.. It did not take long after she watched TV and such to see the Violence they beget !!! Shes makes a Gun Finger shape and says In China we Just shoot them !! I wish we could deter crime here Too!!
PusherOfButtons
12:06 AM CDT
I wish you and her would move back to where she came from.
im azn
4:08 AM CDT
that's bc she thinks that's what you want to hear and seems like she was on point.
Regorski
Racism, like Antisemitism is everywhere.  
Everyone wants to be "White" Except Liberal whites...at least on the surface. 
Even PC White Liberals Hipsters - though they hate themselves for being "White" live in White neighborhoods or Gentrifying POC Neighborhoods that soon will be White.  
 
But it's really a "Class" thing masquerading as Race thing. 
Katy Cordeth
6:23 AM CDT [Edited]
Got any evidence that 'PC' (a term only stupid people tend to use) white liberal hipsters hate themselves for being white? 
 
No, I didn't think so. 
 
Dumb post, Regorski. 
 
I'm embarrassed for you.
prabhatkacharya
i have been observing this awful attitude of Indians (and the Chinese, but I am more concerned about Indians) towards skin color. In my opinion nothing will change until average Indians become more educated. That will require 15 more years. These things don't happen in educated Asian countries like Japan and South Korea. I do think Obama can help in this regard. Obama is very popular in India. After he leaves office, perhaps he and Prime Minister Modi can make a joint TV advertisement saying how inhumane these kinda of acts are. I bet it will work to a large extent.
sago
12:07 AM CDT [Edited]
I am totally against racism and try to be sensitive. I have often experienced it as a brown person in both Africa, the UK and in the US. The way of the world. 
 
The Indian attitude towards Africans is based on what Hollywood and, more important, the US press shows. Daily. Repeatedly and with every sordid violent detail: the violence in Africa and in the US , the Boko Haram, the thefts, etc. the high numbers in jail.  
 
This is the main if not only image worldwide thanks to the US press. 
 
Everyone who is not black should ask themselves: O'K if my wife/ child elopes with or marries a black African?' and then speak of others' racism. 
In India, check what these 'students', on Indian govt scholarships do. Scarce seats are allotted to them since independence so their ambassadors offering to remove them is welcome, not a threat! 
Please follow up if you wish to know: the African students' drug arrests, violence, attacks on sexworkers, etc.  
 
The woman in the article above was NOT stripped but Tharoor writes that as fact... Typical of the US press?
worldTraveller
6:42 AM CDT
No indian racism is religeous, and it is too deep rooted. Indian's even color their black gods(they were part of hinduism due to cultural mixing) in blue color, and never in movie or drama this gods are played by black colored indians, in bolywood movies. In fact the black skinned dalits are untouchables in many parts of India. And they are used mainly to do extremely humiliating jobs, like carring human excrete in bare hands, look up manual scavenging. And number of this people comes aroud 300 million, equivalent population of US. 
Indian racism is based on extreme religeously sanctioned colorism in there culture. They are extremely proud to have white friend though.
Gyaldetrin
1:34 AM CDT
Actually, Indian racism is religiously based. Coming from a caste based society that praises light skin and vilifies dark skin with Hinduism as it's main influencer. In Hinduism, specifically the Ramleela , Sita and Ram are adored as being very fair skinned. When Rawan kidnaps Sita, Ram burns the field and Rawan reappears with dark skin and nappy hair. Hence, the evil is represented as black. With that deep set perception, it will take much longer than 15 years. 
Not only is the view of blacks as being inferior universal, so is the actual gap in economic, intellectual, educational and civilizational attainment between blacks and non-blacks. All across the planet—at during all periods in history, in time as well as space--the level of attainment of blacks lags behind that of non-blacks. And this occurs at all levels of analysis: the individual, the community and the nation: at all of these levels there is—and ever has been--a measurable and substantial gap between the levels of attainment of blacks and non-blacks. 
 
How are we to account for this? The Left has pointed to a history of slavery: slavery has caused racism and racial inequality. The problem here is the universality of this pattern. There has not been race slavery in China, and only a limited amount in India . . . there has not been race slavery in most of sub-Saharan. So, it's not a history of slavery which causes this pattern. Thwarted, the Left turns, then, to colonialization: a history of colonialism causes racism and racial inequality. But India, parts of China, Singapore, Canada, the United States itself . . . all of these have been colonies, and they've done pretty well. 
 
So, how do we account for these universal patterns of racism and inequality between blacks and non-blacks? Clearly, the Left has the causal direction wrong: colonialism and slavery don't cause racism, it's the other way around. What causes racism? 
 
The first contacts between sub-Saharan Africans and Europeans came in Elizabethan times. The very first accounts of these contacts (as documented by Europeans) were extremely unflattering of the Africans.  
 
http://www.jstor.org/stable/2953311?seq=1#page_sca... 
 
What we would now call "racism" came into being almost instantly upon contact with Africans. Racism occurred virtually immediately—without slavery, without colonialism. Racism appeared instantly upon contact between members of the two races. 
Kirbydog9
5/27/2016 9:14 PM CDT
You just wasted a lot words attempting to justify racism with absolutely no support.
vacohee
5/27/2016 9:28 PM CDT
Yes, I have made an argument--I believe with support--and you have offered no argument to the contrary. The floor is open to you, sir. Take it away.
im azn
3:47 AM CDT
No. racism came about as a justification for the Spanish Inquisition. And then Columbus used a version of converting infidels to make massive profits off slaves, which got him arrested. He was quite a brute that killed anyone who slighted him. And then we got the colonialization of Africa. Can't expect free labor without some rationalization that this is best for these black folks.
Jack Von
4:49 AM CDT
Is that why all the inventions they make, big multi-national companies steal their innovations. Just google about m-pesa innovator who would have been a billionaire by now was duped and misinformed. Yeah, how that African boy innovator is stupid is beyond strange. If you despise blacks fine but don't be ignorant. I guess we should ignore all the dynamics, that blacks had direct rule whenever they were occupied by empires as compared to those countries that had indirect rule. Equally Asian countries had no STRAPS policies by foreign donors but black countries, may the heavens have mercy, there malnourished countries economies were forced open in the early 70's ensuring no growth would come to be in this countries. But hey the richest country in the world in terms of resources is DRC but guess what a country that would have been stable, was interfered with by the CIA on directions of Kennedy and a very visionary leader named LUMUMBA Patrice whom had economic ideas like China was killed and instead the country left to criminals. Yeah do tell us more how blacks are born less human. How about when the French took over West Africa and central Africa and though of assimilating this barbarians by literally erasing their own cultures to make them human like them, just because of this race colour crap. Hmm.. how about the Nubian empire, how foreign European explorers ensured they bombed this pyramids, for god knows what sick twisted purposes. But hey in other continents, they didn't blast ancient buildings abandoned with TNT's. As usual just ignore all this things your media ignores to mention because what's the benefit, which is fine but dont be ignorant.
David Lindsay
Ironically, I was in China with an Indian colleague and I noticed he was not always treated with respect.  
 
Indian mobs can be dangerous. I was in India with a British colleague and he opened up the door of his taxi cab and knocked a cyclist off his bike. An ugly mob formed so he decided to make a run for it and hid in a building until things quietened down.
sago
12:12 AM CDT
Ah: INDIAN mobs can be dangerous. Not others!
Kartik Ashok
3:50 AM CDT
Wish they would've taught your inconsiderate friend a lesson. The mob was simply defending our race in our own homeland.
worldTraveller
6:47 AM CDT
Yes like they killed many people from african in India. Indian hindu culture is the worst culture I have ever seen. They keep around 300 million people, as much as the number of people in US, as out casts. And each day they were being raped and killed with impunity. Here is a link http://www.democracynow.org/2015/9/29/a_voice_for_... 
These are the worst kept secrets. Indian upper cast want there cheap labour for there welfare and to immigrate to US. And here they cry racism. But the way indians treat there own is the worst. If you don't know how blacks felt in slavery period, just ask a dalit in India
But wait -- in the Italian ad, the man goes in to the washer white, but comes out black! Where was the racial outrage then?
im azn
3:49 AM CDT
that's called balancing. it's similar to when you wish you could have told your mother you loved her before she died after years of taking her for granted.
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