My dear Rabi Hamelberg,
Ignored is (sometimes) not always an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance, you wrote. I am convinced that to ignore is never at anytime an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance. To ignore could only allow ignorance to flourish and the consequences, a times, might be irreparable. How can a person who, ignorantly, intends to kiss a viper be effectively corrected or castigated of his ignorance if he is ignored?
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My own Dear Ogbeni Kadiri,
Whose ignorance?
Putting it roughly, crudely, if you will, a little less kindly, for Mr Rascality (Chidi) is a bosom comrade-at-heart of Yours Truly and such a friendship is - as circumstances may demand, prepared to make sacrifices to avoid pointless arguments about brutal truths; what I was under-stating is still a permanent truth
Ignored is not always an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance.
Does Ogbeni Kadiri agree?
n Saturday, 13 May 2017 00:20:06 UTC+2, ogunlakaiye wrote:
> Typical African intellectuals, especially poets and bloggers, are extremely pompous and their need to impress makes it difficult for them to explain simple phenomenon or concepts. When the credibility of a statement is questioned, the maker or reporter of
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> When asked to name which major and minor news media carried the signed statement, Chidi retorted, I ignore the question? And to that the chameleon said, "Ignored is sometimes an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance," which is not applicable
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> the statement that he fraudulently attributed to Femi Adeshina and he cunningly assumed that he could avoid exposure by refusing to answer my question. This list serve is a windy storm, chickens that come to play in it risk getting their anus exposed for public views.
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Whose ignorance?
Putting it roughly, crudely, if you will, a little less kindly, for Mr Rascality (Chidi) is a bosom comrade-at-heart of Yours Truly and such a friendship is - as circumstances may demand, prepared to make sacrifices to avoid pointless arguments about brutal truths; what I was under-stating is still a permanent truth
Ignored is not always an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance.
Does Ogbeni Kadiri agree?
n Saturday, 13 May 2017 00:20:06 UTC+2, ogunlakaiye wrote:
> Typical African intellectuals, especially poets and bloggers, are extremely pompous and their need to impress makes it difficult for them to explain simple phenomenon or concepts. When the credibility of a statement is questioned, the maker or reporter of
> the statement is always obliged to answer any arising question. But the pompous African intellectuals may ignorantly arrogate to himself the power to ignore any question that tends to expose their fabricated lies.
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> Chidi with quotation marks pretended as if Femi Adeshina talked to him directly. When confronted to confirm the source of his quoted statement, he somersaulted into an alleged signed statement by Femi Adeshina carried by unnamed major and minor news media.
> When asked to name which major and minor news media carried the signed statement, Chidi retorted, I ignore the question? And to that the chameleon said, "Ignored is sometimes an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance," which is not applicable
> in this case. Firstly, a question posed to verify if a statement is true or false has nothing to do with ignorance. Secondly, it is naive to think that ignorance can sometimes be effectively corrected or castigated if ignored. Chidi Anthony Okpara authored
> the statement that he fraudulently attributed to Femi Adeshina and he cunningly assumed that he could avoid exposure by refusing to answer my question. This list serve is a windy storm, chickens that come to play in it risk getting their anus exposed for public views.
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> > to their parents. They will kept in Abuja here." (Femi Adeshina).
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> > If Femi Adeshina had actually signed the statement credited to him by Chidi Anthony Opara, why can't Chidi just post the signed statement? Why is it so troublesome to mention one of the news media that quoted the same statement Chidi attributed to
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> > Femi Adeshina? Why did Chidi refer to Femi Adeshina's statement in quotation marks as if Femi talked to him directly? By asking if Femi Adeshina spoke to Chidi personally or what was the source of his quoted statement attributed to Femi, I had already expressed
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> > lies and crediting them to innocent people in the cyberspace are ignorant people who should be ignored and in your view, that is an effective way of correcting and castigating ignorance? When my questions are not answered, I do not feel ignored by the persons
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> > to whom the questions are directed since their reaction in that regard is expected of neurotic intellectuals who always feel angry when events do not affirm their idealized self-image. When questions tend to expose dubious lies and dishonest fabrications, crooks
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