My own Dear Rabi Hamelberg,
You wrote, "Instead of challenging the source of the comments attributed to Femi Adeshina, to save us from the clutches of mass deception, you could (you yourself) save us all the trouble by going to the source instead of starting another tedious round of Socratic dialogue, proving that you are right and that someone else is woefully wrong."
Thank you for giving us the source(s) of what you distortedly called comments attributed to Femi Adeshina, instead of statements. I have never challenged the source of the information peddled by your darling, Chidi. I only asked your darling, Chidi, if Adeshina talked to him personally since the statements were in quotation marks, and if not, Chidi should tell us the source of the statements attributed to Adeshina. Having perused all your posted google sources, I could not find where Adeshina, according to Chidi's post of 9 May 2017, had said the followings, "No journalist will be allowed to interview the rescued Chibok school girls. They will not go back to their parents. They will be kept in Abuja here." What I have all along disputed is that the statements credited to Adeshina never originated from him and that your darling, Chidi, is a peddler of malicious lie. This forum is a market where you can only trade/sell truth. Once the truth hits some of our intellectuals trading lies on this forum, they become like a fish out of water. They will complain that truth drove away, first non Africans, then Sierra-Leoneans and now their turn to be driven out because truth tellers dare comment or dispute the validity of the contents of their posts.
S. Kadiri
Skickat: den 13 maj 2017 17:18
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Ogbeni Kadiri,
"NATURE and Nature's Laws lay hid in Night:
God said, "Let Newton be!" and all was light." (Epitaph on Sir Isaac Newton)
Since you are a master of proverbs, please re-examine my one-liner in which I was only being humble, friendly, diplomatic and ironic, maybe a little sarcastic with regard to your question, "in what way will (my) ignorance be corrected or castigated effectively if the peddler of the said information decides to ignore my enquiry or question?"
"Ignored is sometimes an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance."
Close to the saying, " Where ignorance is bliss, tis folly to be wise."
There are of course various types of ignorance, one of which is wilful ignorance. We know the cure for that.
In some cases, we could also exchange the word " arrogance" for ignorance...
Please bear in mind that sometimes, your questions are also my questions in search of an answer.
Instead of challenging the source of the comments attributed to Femi Adeshina, to save us from the clutches of mass deception, you could (you yourself) save us all the trouble by going to the source instead of starting another tedious round of Socratic dialogue proving that you are right and that someone else (Ogbeni Opara) is woefully wrong. To his credit Ogbeni Opara did say somewhere that, "at any given time, the readers or listeners must be told that the report is speculative, rumour or factual. A journalist should not present rumours and speculations for instance, as facts"...
Re - your other words :"Typical African intellectuals, especially poets and bloggers, are extremely pompous and their need to impress makes it difficult for them to explain simple phenomenon or concepts. " (Ogbeni Kadiri)
I thank God that I am not one of them ( African intellectual, poet or blogger)
We read about him everyday, about the African intelligentsia, about their elite knowledge production, we are sometimes spellbound by some of the obituaries and eulogies of character and achievement in this our august forum. However, generally speaking, among the living, when it comes to their responsibilities, that much maligned persona, the "African intellectual" - a general category that admits of all types of itinerant, sometimes gifted, shipwrecked diaspora vagrants, in their degree-spun cocoons are sometimes, sadly found wanting, deficient, as if "the curse of Ham" cannot defy what passes as "African Witchcraft" -
and indeed as if the genius of African Witchcraft and Wizardry
cannot replace Ogbeni Kadiri's Professors of electricity
whose claim to fame consists mainly in producing darkness only !
And then we have poets like Chidi
(never afraid to ask the uncomfortable questions)
and "Darkness at the break of noon" Bobby D
and before them Arthur Koestler screeching about the darkness -
indeed, it's "Only a matter of time till night comes Stepping in".
Making sense of it all, Edward Said has interesting viewpoints about the role of the intellectual and adjacent matters in his Reith Lectures of 1993 ( Soyinka's was eleven years later : Climate of fear
On Saturday, 13 May 2017 00:20:06 UTC+2, ogunlakaiye wrote:
Typical African intellectuals, especially poets and bloggers, are extremely pompous and their need to impress makes it difficult for them to explain simple phenomenon or concepts. When the credibility of a statement is questioned, the maker or reporter of the statement is always obliged to answer any arising question. But the pompous African intellectuals may ignorantly arrogate to himself the power to ignore any question that tends to expose their fabricated lies.
Chidi with quotation marks pretended as if Femi Adeshina talked to him directly. When confronted to confirm the source of his quoted statement, he somersaulted into an alleged signed statement by Femi Adeshina carried by unnamed major and minor news media. When asked to name which major and minor news media carried the signed statement, Chidi retorted, I ignore the question? And to that the chameleon said, "Ignored is sometimes an effective way of correcting or castigating ignorance," which is not applicable in this case. Firstly, a question posed to verify if a statement is true or false has nothing to do with ignorance. Secondly, it is naive to think that ignorance can sometimes be effectively corrected or castigated if ignored. Chidi Anthony Okpara authored the statement that he fraudulently attributed to Femi Adeshina and he cunningly assumed that he could avoid exposure by refusing to answer my question. This list serve is a windy storm, chickens that come to play in it risk getting their anus exposed for public views.
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Skickat: den 12 maj 2017 18:32
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Sometimes = not always (like NEPA
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