Kwame, you should say Asians do not WHOLLY dominate elite schools! Blacks complaining refers to African Americans! These are quibbles to my arguments, but do not change the trajectory of my conclusions
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--Ken:
Kwame's last paragraph is not in dispute here! But let me ask why African Americans would complain about the increasing number of Africans in elite schools and overlook Asian domination of elite schools! May be Kwame can theorize from some conservative pan-African perspectives, while Ken wave the flag of neo-liberal empiricisms!
Kwabena
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Sent: October 25, 2017 11:48 PM
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Cornell¹s Black Student Disunion--You can substitute "Detroit" for "chicago" in everything Kwame wrote, and it would be true. Too true. And I full-heartedly endorse his important last paragraph.
ken
Kenneth Harrow
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Date: Wednesday, 25 October 2017 at 18:48
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Kwabena,
I am in agreement with Ken (see thread) on the gross disparities extant in US K-12 education. Another pressing issue is violence. The pipeline for my institution is Chicago. In the 2.5 years I have worked here, I have had four students from the South Side of Chicago who have close friends who were victims of gunfire. One student has lost six male friends in her community to gunfire. Most Black Chicagoans are the descendants of African Americans who, in the 1920s, starting fleeing the south in massive numbers. They were escaping lynchings and other horrific acts of white racial terror. Their reception by whites in Chicago was also extremely violent.
The Chicago police of the 1940s and 50s were basically execution squads who killed, arrested, or otherwise undermined any Black leader who tried to protect the interests of Black people. In 1969 the Chicago police conspired with federal agents to assassinate Black Panther leader Fred Hampton. All that to say that these are brute inequities that have been centuries in the making. The original intent of Affirmative Action was to correct these injustices rooted centuries Jim Crow and slavery in America.
I think it is fair to say that the Black students at Cornel need guidance on how to frame the problem in a way that does not exacerbate divisions between Africans and African Americans. But the problem they are raising is legitimate. Cornel, and every other tertiary institution in the USA, should have Affirmative Action programs aimed at aggressively recruiting, retaining, graduating African Americans. They can/should do that alongside the robust recruitment of continental and second generation African students.
kzs
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On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 9:09 AM, Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com> wrote:
Kwame better is a relative concept with alternative angles of meanings. I premised my conclusions on your previous position that has some empiricisms to it that are measurable. Thus comparative performances predicated on "better" should not be "rejected," but rather nuanced or problematized. I am not getting your arguments and your conclusions! Are you saying that white racism encourages the academic performances of African Africans in the USA, while it discourages the academic performances of African Americans? You write "better" is measured on terms designated by the white status quo and does nothing to challenge the white racist status quo." Does this mean that if African Africans do "better" in schools it promotes white racist status quo and does it mean that if a heterogeneous group does not do well, it then marginalizes or defangs white racism.? I didn't have to belabor the ways that African Americans have benefited from Africans and vice versa. I raised that to counter your statements like "Recent immigrants to America benefit from Black America's unfinished business of racial justice for centuries of white racial terror." I think instead of contesting the academic performances of African Africans in the frameworks immigration, race, and racism, we should rather seek to understand "how" African Africans do "well," if not "better" while others don't. Based on your arguments, I would suggest that white racism in the USA is encompassing, not selective in the sense that it privileges and favors African Africans and their children's educational pursuits. You are free to disagree with my generous position that newly-arrived African Africans find it more difficult to navigate the murky waters of racism than African Americans.
Kwabena
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Sent: October 25, 2017 2:26 AM
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Kwabena,
Again, I reject the claim that Africans are "doing better" if "better" is measured on terms designated by the white status quo and does nothing to challenge the white racist status quo. I also know Africans here who are exasperated by the fact that their children are asking why black people are inferior because that's what the white kids and teachers are telling them in school. I have an African friend who has decided that the racial climate is too toxic so they have resolved to send their child back to Nigeria for school. "Doing better" misses those stories.
Who would deny that African Americans have benefited from struggles in Africa? Indeed, African Americans were engaged in the examples you listed--the Italian invasion of Italy and decolonization led by Nkrumah and many others. Two African American pilots flew in defense of Ethiopia despite a US ban on them doing so.
I don't agree that Africans in the US are disadvantaged with navigating institutional racism. In fact it is sometimes the case that immigrants gain privileges by disassociating with African Americans. Moreover, as I noted earlier, the harm caused by white racial terrorism is cumulative. That is to say African Americans, Native Americans, Latin Americans have experienced white brutality generation, after generation, after generation. Some of those victims have been in prison for decades. But the author dismisses all of that as "victimhood."
kzs
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On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 5:36 PM, Kwabena Akurang-Parry <kaparry@hotmail.com> wrote:
About the below, I will make simple observations
African Africans who live the USA face the same institutional white racism, sometimes worse ,because they don't know how to navigate its murky waters!
African Americans have also benefited from forms of empowerment that had its roots in Africa, for example, the Italian occupation of Ethiopia and the rhythmic osmosis of decolonization in Africa championed by Nkrumah and co. Sometimes African American political energies and unity arise when they engage Africa, for example, Apartheid struggles.
You are not suggesting that what Africa Africans study in America on the desk of white racism is not the same as what African Americans study. So look for a variable that account for why African Africans do better in school than their cousins
I think you are half-right. Yes, institutional racism is an actual thing that African Americans have resisted and continue to resist and challenge. Recent immigrants to America benefit from Black America's unfinished business of racial justice for centuries of white racial terror. Simply learning better study habits isn't the point of all this. We must question what is being studied. Who sets the terms? Whose interests are being served? White knowledge was built on Black subordination. White America must be held accountable for centuries of white racial terror against its Black, Brown, and indigenous citizens. Getting good grades without raising your voice against white supremacy is a sort of assimilation that perpetuates the problem.
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Brother Biko,
I think you are half-right. Yes, institutional racism is an actual thing that African Americans have resisted and continue to resist and challenge. Recent immigrants to America benefit from Black America's unfinished business of racial justice for centuries of white racial terror. Simply learning better study habits isn't the point of all this. We must question what is being studied. Who sets the terms? Whose interests are being served? White knowledge was built on Black subordination. White America must be held accountable for centuries of white racial terror against its Black, Brown, and indigenous citizens. Getting good grades without raising your voice against white supremacy is a sort of assimilation that perpetuates the problem.
We must be clear that the aim of white supremacy, institutional or otherwise, is to destroy Black, Brown, and indigenous people and create passive assimilated bodies who don't challenge said systems. Indeed, the Movement for Black Lives is an example of a long continuum of Black resistance to domestic white terrorism. African American resistance to white racial terror was a necessary struggle in 1917 and it is no less necessary in 2017. The author's effort to gloss over that fact with the phrase "victimhood" is racist and offensive. There are Black political prisoners who have been in prison since the 1960s. Assata Shakur and others have been in exile nearly as long. Is it the author's position that Assata suffers from "victimhood"? What about 12 year-old Tamir Rice? Tamir was executed in less than two seconds by a police officer. Do we blame Tamir's murder on "victimhood"? There are millions of stories of black people who have been terrorized generation, after generation, after generation. The outcome of white racial terror are vast race-based inequalities that an educated immigrant can side-step by looking straight ahead, getting good grades, causing no controversies, and raising no uncomfortable questions with our white oppressors.
Talented Africans leave their homelands because their aspirations are crushed under systems that were imposed by white people and now managed by black "matadors" (to borrow Chinweizu's phrase). Ironically, many of them wind up migrating to the very source of their problem--Europe and America. Many talented African Americans, by comparison, are crushed in ghettos created by white American racists. I don't plan of dying in America. But I have been fortunate to develop a longstanding relationship with an African nation (Ghana). Most African Americans don't have that experience. America, the land that hates them, is the only home they will ever know. Who will treat the centuries of trauma that Africans stuck American have endured? How can you treat the trauma if the oppression is ongoing? Given these conditions, we have no option but to keep fighting. "Success," then, should not be measured solely by standards created by white people to maintain white power. A better standard is to what degree do students agitate against the institutions aimed at destroying them. Du Bois was a "success." But after centuries of vicious harassment by the US government, Du Bois quit America and died in Ghana. The brilliant Paul Robeson was a "success." But Robeson chose to speak out against US imperialism abroad and racism at home. Robeson was also viciously harassed and probably poisoned by the US govt under the MkUltra program. Dr. King was a "success." But the US government literally tried to force him to commit suicide. See the pattern? The pathological US government murders, incarcerates, smears our most talented leaders and then that same pathological government labels Black people pathological.
All Black Lives Matter,
kzs
On Thursday, October 19, 2017 at 2:05:22 PM UTC-5, Biko Agozino wrote:A few have always risen against the odds and the few African African immigrant students who excel are not the rule. They come from populations with mass failures in examinations. About 80% of Nigerian students have been failing high school exams in Nigeria for decades. The theory of Chua and Rubenfeld missed this by overgeneralizing their convenient samples, one of their examples is Justice Sotomayor who was failing in high school until she asked a successful classmate to teach her how to study effectively. The missing link is lack of training in study skills. Our students are being given fish by teachers but they are not taught how to fish. Once students master study skills, they will excel even against the odds. African American students at Cornell cannot be labelled failures simple because they complain about institutional racism which is a reality that African African students should speak out against too. Any student at Cornell must be good enough to get there in the first place. The problem lies in the high school where every course is taught but not study skills. We have a proposal to experiment by working with failing high schools to teach study skills and then compare the learning results with control group of schools. We hypothesize that knowledge of smart study skills will achieve better results than the gospel of hard work. We have shared our action research design with many state governors internationally but no takers yet.
Biko
On Thursday, 19 October 2017, 05:32:40 GMT-4, Toyin Falola <toyin...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
Cornell's Black Student Disunion
https://www.wsj.com/article_
email/cornells-black-student- disunion-1508364848- lMyQjAxMTA3NTE4ODcxMjg4Wj/ A radical group calls on the university to disfavor immigrants.
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A century ago, colleges cared if your ancestors came over on the Mayflower. Now some are demanding that when universities admit black students, they give preference to descendants of those who arrived on slave ships. Black Students United at Cornell last month insisted the university "come up with a plan to actively increase the presence of underrepresented Black students." The group noted, "We define underrepresented Black students as Black Americans who have several generations (more than two) in this country."
After widespread criticism—including a student op-ed with the headline "Combating White Supremacy Should Not Entail Throwing Other Black Students Under the Bus"—the group backtracked, sort of. It apologized for "any conflicting feelings this demand may have garnered from the communities we represent." But if the purpose of racial preferences is to promote "diversity," as the Supreme Court has held, why don't immigrants count?
The BSU argued that "the Black student population at Cornell disproportionately represents international or first-generation African or Caribbean students. While these students have a right to flourish at Cornell, there is a lack of investment in Black students whose families were affected directly by the African Holocaust in America."
There's a contradiction here. For years liberal writers have blamed black poverty and undereducation on racism—the experience of being more likely to be pulled over by police, to be looked at suspiciously in department stores, to be discriminated against in schools and the workplace.
But it doesn't seem to be the case, at least not to the same degree, among immigrants. "The more strongly black immigrant students identify with their specific ethnic origins, the better they perform [academically]," Amy Chua and Jed Rubenfeld observed in their 2014 book, "The Triple Package."
Anecdotal examples are easy to find. The website Face2FaceAfrica noted in April that Ifeoma White-Thorpe, a New Jersey teen born in Nigeria, had joined "a remarkable roll call of high-flying African-American students who were accepted into all 8 Ivy League Universities." Among them: Ghanaian-American Kwasi Enin, Somali-American Munira Khalif and Nigerian-Americans Harold Ekeh and Augusta Uwamanzu-Nna.
Why does racism not seem to keep black immigrants down? The answer is obvious: Black immigrant culture tends to value academic achievement and believe it is possible no matter what happened to your ancestors. As one business school graduate born to Nigerian parents tells Ms. Chua and Mr. Rubenfeld: "If you start thinking about or becoming absorbed in the mentality that the whole system is against us then you cannot succeed."
Groups like the Cornell BSU insist that the system is out to get them and they cannot succeed. This makes the presence of high-achieving immigrant black students inconvenient. Between diversity and victimhood as the highest good in today's academia, it's hard to know where to place your money.
Ms. Riley is a senior fellow at the Independent Women's Forum.
Appeared in the October 19, 2017, print edition.
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