Well, there is no longer any basis for prolonging the debate then.
Lets just agree to let sleeping dogs lie.
Shiikena.
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Date: 27/12/2019 12:18 (GMT+00:00)
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Awo's reply declining membershipofthe 1986 Political Bureau
Really? I last read it thirty-some years ago at UI. You want me to paraphrase that? E kin se o omode---so gbo? I last discussed it with Comrade Osoba when I visited him last year at Ijebu Ode. Learn to check sources---don't wait for those making claims to substantiate their claims---they may not have the tools or the wherewithal.
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I hold nothing against Papa---I read him in context with his peers/contemporaries.
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On 27 Dec 2019, at 11:39 AM, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Oga Ibrahim.
Unless you havent seen my earlier post to that effect my own pedigree is not specifically Awoist but we must give honour to whom honour is due ( and not indiscriminately malign their memory when they are no longer alive to defend themselves.)
The reply that I should go and find the document is not good enough for a forum of this nature. I did not make the allegation. Even if you cannot find the document handy, you could paraphrase the sections and I am sure those who have read the document will produce the sections you refer to make your claims and the forum will be enlightened.
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-------- Original message --------From: Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdullah@gmail.com>Date: 27/12/2019 10:57 (GMT+00:00)To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Awo's reply declining membershipofthe 1986 Political Bureau
Get the report and help yourself. I read it when I was in UI---80/81. My xerox copy is somewhere in my Nigerian documents. If what you find contradicts my claim---Awo's alleged misappropriation--we can talk.--
Yes, Awo, the "sage", appears to stand tall among his peers; the invention of the infallible "sage" have got a section of Yoruba intellectual in a series of conferences to cement that infallibility by deifying Papa.
But alas, Papa is no deity: he was the original Action Grouper: an ethnic conclave confraternity that invented Yorubadom as a political indentity.--
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On 26 Dec 2019, at 12:35 PM, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
Ibrahim Abdullah:
Can you share the appropriate pages with the forum?
OAA
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-------- Original message --------From: Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdullah@gmail.com>Date: 26/12/2019 10:56 (GMT+00:00)To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Awo's reply declining membership ofthe 1986 Political Bureau
Bolaji:--Ibrahim Abdullah---don't do as usual: Abdullahi is not Abdullah. I do have a xerox copy of Coker---dated 1970. Am no rumor monger nor a fanatic like you. Awo did what the Commission alleged: misappropriation!--
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On 26 Dec 2019, at 5:29 AM, Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:
Salimonu Kadiri:
This is why I have stayed on Ibrahim Abdullahi, to see whether he is a pepper-soup rumor-monger, or a serious commentator on this Coker Commission caper.
Awo - in his book "Adventures in Power Book Ii: The Travails of Democracy and the Rule of Law" spent a whole Chapter on this Coker Commission Report, and excerpted detailed analysis of the report by three intellectuals of that day: Prof.. S.A. Aluko (my father), Prof.. Hezekiah Oluwasanmi and Prof.. Akin Mabogunje.
1. What Disgusts Me Most in the Coker Report - by Aluko2. A Most Infamous Rationalization - by Oluwasanmi3. It is a Travesty of Justice - by Mabogunje
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--Mallam Ibrahim Abdullah,ÈGÀN KÒ PÉ K'OYIN MÁ DÙN, derision cannot cause honey not to be sweet. Every sane Nigerian knows that the Coker Commission of enquiry was inaugurated by the Federal coalition government of NPC and NCNC after overthrowing the Action Group controlled Western Government. The sole purpose of the Coker Commission of enquiry in June 1962, was to rubbish the image of Awolowo who had left the Premiership of Western Region to contest the 1959 Federal Election. If Coker had discovered stealing and misappropriation of Western Region by Awolowo, there would not have been treasonable felony trial against Awolowo who would have been prosecuted, instead, for embezzlement, fraud, corruption etc. Coker Commission discovered that Awolowo spent cocoa money on free primary education for all. Initially, it was intended to be compulsory but when his any campaigned that he wanted to deprive parents helping hands of their children in the farm, he changed it to voluntary. The first Television Station in Africa, WNTV, was established by Awolowo's government, the flood-light Liberty Stadium was built with Cocoa money, major towns in Western Region had access to pipe-borne water, farm settlements producing dairy products were established throughout Western Region, Cocoa House (a Skyscraper) was built in Ibadan and a large area of Land was turned into industrial estate in Ikeja which belonged to Western Region then. I challenge you to quote directly from the report of Coker Commission of enquiry into the finances of Western Region Government up to 1959 where it was stated that Awolowo corruptly enriched himself by stealing public funds and what amount of money was it.
As all human beings, Awolowo had his shortcomings but among his political peers he was the best. Saying that has nothing to do with my ethnic origin, since in some aspects I also admire the political ideologies of Samuel Gomsu Ikoku, Anthony Enahoro, Aminu Kano, Mokwugo Okoye, to mention few.S. Kadiri
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Awo's reply declining membership of the 1986 Political BureauO ko owo je like all the others and used Sonibare to play the game. Awo chopped cocoa profit well well. You cannot cover your beloved Papa. Only blind AGroupers will want to whitewash Coker Commission and deify the proclaimed Sage!
So funny---covering up for Awo.--
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On 24 Dec 2019, at 10:19 PM, Mobolaji Aluko <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:
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Ibrahim Abdullah:
What do you know about the Coker Commission report? If that was what makes you declare Awo a non-saint, then he was indeed a saint. The Coker Commision was a cooked-up concordance..no pun intended.
No - Awo was not a saint simply because he was human. But he stands almost paradigmatically alone in the pantheon of Nigeria's original leaders.
Season's greetings!
Bolaji Aluko
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Awo was no saint. Coker Commission report is there for all to see.
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> On Dec 24, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Tunji Olaopa <tolaopa2003@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Reading Papa Awo's letter declining to serve on IBB's Political Bureau in 1986 again, and with the clear declining fortune of the Nigeria Project, I woke up this morning wondering, did the sage saw something about the future that we are in that we were perhaps too blinded to see?
>
> RESTORING GOVERNMENTAL AND SOCIAL ORDER - CHIEF OBAFEMI AWOLOWO
>
> In 1986, former President Ibrahim Babangida had asked Pa Awolowo to provide input into charting a New Social Order for Nigeria via a National Debate. A couple of my bosom friends have over the last few days reminded me of the force and depth of Pa Awolowo reply:
>
> "Dear Sir, I received your letter of February 28, 1986, and sincerely thank you for doing me the honour of inviting me to contribute to the National Political Debate. The purpose of the debate is to clarify our thoughts in our search for a new social order. It is, therefore, meet and proper that all those who have something to contribute should do so. I do fervently and will continue fervently to pray that I may be proved wrong. For something within me tells me, loud and clear, that we have embarked on a fruitless search. At the end of the day, when we imagine that the new order is here, we would be terribly disappointed. In other words, at the threshold of our New Social Order, we would see for ourselves that, as long as Nigerians remain what they are, nothing clean, principled, ethical, and idealistic can work with them. And Nigerians will remain what they are, unless the evils which now dominate their hearts, at all levels and in all sectors of our political, business and governmental activities are exorcised. But I venture to assert that they will not be exorcised, and indeed they will be firmly entrenched, unless God Himself imbues a vast majority of us with a revolutionary change of attitude to life and politics or, unless the dialectic processes which have been at work for some twenty years now, perforce, make us perceive the abominable filth that abounds in our society, to the end that an inexorable abhorrence of it will be quickened in our hearts and impel us to make drastic changes for the better. There is, of course, an alternative option open to us. To succumb to permanent social instability and chaos. On the premises, I beg to decline your invitation. I am yours truly, Obafemi Awolowo."
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