Dear Sir,
I'm afraid you're a little wrong this time, re - your idea that
"All Iran needed to do was reach out to the US through its friends in Europe (whom Trump would listen to, and who have not rescinded the original deal) behind the scene, and there all Trumps sabre rattling would end with a 'renegotiated" deal or promise of one, instead of the military option."
Just to jog your memory a little, I should like to point out that this is exactly what Iran has been doing all along since Trump tore up the Iran nuclear deal that was so carefully negotiated between Iran and all the world powers and the rest of the UN community including the United States. For instance this morning here's the latest news from Sweden: Sweden sends special group to embassy in Iran
Otherwise, the EU countries spearheaded by Britain and Germany ( still signatories to the Iran nuclear deal) have been assiduously trying to circumvent the US- imposed sanctions – understandably, because they are still signatories and have not abandoned the deal that they signed up to, and also ( of course) because having to toe the US-imposed Sanction line is not good for business, is hurting their economies – the UK, for instance, loses £20 million per day when out of business with Iran - Check this out
You are far too optimistic in believing that which in reality has no basis for such optimism about the people in the Neo Con's Old Europe "whom Trump would listen to", when you know as well as everybody else apart from those who so erroneously believe that " President Trump is the Trumpet of God" when in fact ( to borrow a Wole Soyinka expression) Trump is " as stubborn as an illiterate goat" and the last thing that an intransigent illiterate goat is going to do in his re-election year is to renege on his earlier promise, so help him, God, to tear up the Iran Nuclear Deal
It seems that the specifically Republican bad blood about the deal goes back to the Republican House Speaker John Boehner inviting Israel's Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to address Congress about how dangerous Iran's alleged nuclear ambitions were, especially at the time Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the then President of Iran speaking in his mother tongue Farsi had made some unfortunate statement to the effect that Iran was going to "wipe out" Israel, interpreted to mean Iran had the genocidal intention of ( God forbid) "wiping out " Israel off the surface of the earth - a statement which Ahmadinejad and his successors have since modified and downgraded to merely "erasing Israel from the map", in turn, interpreted to mean replacing Israel by a Hamas style Islamic Palestinian State on the world's political map, possibly the world's twenty-third Arab majority State. Dore Gold has also repeatedly amplified this threat in his Jerusalem Centre for Public Affairs, and of course, never quiet, the Israel media megaphones have been very effective in spreading the message of Iran's post-Hitlerian Holocaust intentions. At this stage, it would seem that only unfettered access to all suspect sites and unfettered monitoring of all suspect nuclear activity would calm the fear, not of God, but of a nuclear-armed Iran - feared not only by Israel, Ivanka and Jared Kushner but also Saudi Arabia, among many others.
In the final analysis, short of a bloody and chaotic regime change which would create ten million more refugees, some re-negotiation will have to take place, with a little help from the EU 'Iran and UN-Iran friendly nations (even if just now, after the air disaster, EU - friendly countries and Canada may not be too confident in the current Supreme Leader's regime to climb down in order to pull off a new deal - even after all, as they have said all along, Islam is against nuclear weapons.
On Sunday, 12 January 2020 13:16:11 UTC+1, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI wrote:
Like I stated before Iran just failed to manage the crisis well this time.
This is the not the first time the US has imposed economic sanctions.
All Iran needed to do was reach out to the US through its friends in Europe (whom Trump would listen to, and who have not rescinded the original deal) behind the scene, and there all Trumps sabre rattling would end with a 'renegotiated" deal or promise of one, instead of the military option.
OAA
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-------- Original message --------From: Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin....@gmail.com>Date: 11/01/2020 22:20 (GMT+00:00)To: usaafricadialogue <usaafric...@googlegroups.com >Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UKRAINIAN AIRLINE UNINTENTIONALLYSHOT DOWN .
May God protect us from making mistakes on the provocation of our enemies.
Toyin
--On Sat, 11 Jan 2020 at 22:30, Moses Ebe Ochonu <meoc...@gmail.com> wrote:
Okey, greetings.
Nice article. I agree about the mutual 'satanic" obsessions with each other when it comes to Iran and the US. My own thought is that the obsession with Iran is largely about Israel and the Evangelicals' obsession with "protecting Israel" from destruction. There are countries in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia being one of them, that should cause the US greater geopolitical anxiety than Iran. But the dual reality of Israel and evangelical political pressure has kept the focus inordinately on Iran. It's not about the hostage crisis and past hostility. If that were the case, the US would not have normalized relations with Vietnam, nor would Reagan, Mark Rich, and other prominent Americans and leaders have done secret business with Iran, supplying her oil, weapons, and other things behind the scenes while continuing with the demonization of the country in public.
--On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 1:57 PM Okey Iheduru <okeyi...@gmail.com> wrote:
America's Great Satan
The 40-Year Obsession With Iran
Don't believe the hype: Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps troops, July 2018SIPA USA / AP
Imagine historians a century from now trying to decide which foreign power the United States feared most in the decades from the late Cold War through 2020. Sifting through the national security strategies of successive administrations, they would see Russia first as an arch-enemy of the United States, then as a friend, and finally as a challenging nuisance. They would see China transform from a sometime partner to a great-power rival. North Korea would appear as a sideshow.
Only one country would be depicted as a persistent and implacable foe: Iran. In its official rhetoric and strategic documents, Washington has, since Iran's Islamic Revolution in 1979, consistently portrayed the country as a purely hostile and dangerous actor. In recent months, the United States and Iran have once again, as they have many times in the past, approached the brink of conflict: U.S. President Donald Trump has ripped up his predecessor's nuclear deal with Iran and adopted a policy of "maximum pressure" to strangle the Iranian economy. Iran, meanwhile, has responded by heightening tensions, attacking several oil tankers traversing the Persian Gulf, shooting down a U.S. drone, and striking an oil facility in Abqaiq, Saudi Arabia.
No U.S. president has been as capricious as Trump, and there is a possibility that, after flirting with escalation, he will pivot toward an accommodation with Iran. (His recent dismissal of National Security Adviser John Bolton, an extreme Iran hawk, suggests that this process could already be underway.) But Trump's approach during his first three years in office did not emerge from a void. It was an extension of the deep animus toward Iran that has plagued U.S. policymaking for the last 40 years. Previous administrations had balanced this hostility with pragmatism and periodic attempts at outreach, often cloaked in the language of confrontation; now, driven by greater political incentives and intensified lobbying by Israel and Saudi Arabia, Trump has inflated this animus to cartoonish proportions. In doing so, he runs the ....
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On Sat, Jan 11, 2020 at 11:42 AM Ibrahim Abdullah <ibdu...@gmail.com> wrote:
Why not pose the same question to those who govern where you presently domicile?--
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On 11 Jan 2020, at 2:50 PM, Toyin Falola <toyin...@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:
--This is a triple tragedy. In the attempt to avenge the death of Soleimani, they lost over 30 people to stampede; and another 200 to human error (or incompetence) to the plane crash. Iranians should direct serious questions to those who govern them.
TF
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Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UKRAINIAN AIRLINE UNINTENTIONALLY SHOT DOWN .
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NTFORUMJOBSCOLUMNSRELATIONSHIP S BREAKING NEWSTRANSLATE SELECT LANGUAGE▼ Human error: Iran admits shooting down Ukrainian airliner unintentionally ON JANUARY 11, 20203:27 PMIN FOREIGN Kindly Share This Story: FacebookTwitterEmailWhatsAppPi nterestShare The general staff of Iran's armed forces says that Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752, which crashed just after taking off from Tehran's Airport on January 8, was brought down due to human error, according to state-run Press TV. Iran targeted the passenger plane unintentionally, Press TV reported. US officials previously said they thought the plane had been shot down with two Russian-made surface-to-air missiles, likely by accident. Iran's President just released a statement on the crash After sending a tweet Saturday morning acknowledging the Ukraine International Airlines flight that crashed this week was shot down, Iran President Hassan Rouhani has released a lengthy statement, calling the incident a "terrible catastrophe." Read the statement below: Noble people of Iran With the utmost regret and sorrow, hours ago I was informed of the outcome of the General Staff of the Armed Forces' investigation into the Ukrainian passenger plane crash. In the atmosphere of threats and intimidation by the aggressive American regime against the Iranian nation after the martyrdom of General Qasem Soleimani, and in order to defend ourselves against possible attacks by the American Army, the Armed Forces of the Islamic Republic of Iran were on full alert, which unfortunately led to this terrible catastrophe taking the lives of dozens of innocent people because of human error and mistaken shooting. The Islamic Republic of Iran is deeply sorry by this disastrous mistake, and I extend my deepest condolences to the families of the victims of this tragic incident on behalf of the Islamic Republic of Iran, and instruct all related organs to take all necessary measures to compensate and sympathise with the bereaved families. I also express my deep condolences and sympathy of the Iranian government to the nations, governments and families of non-Iranian victims. The Ministry of Foreign Affairs will be in full consular cooperation to identify and return the bodies of victims to their families. This painful accident is not something that can be easily overlooked. Further investigation is needed to identify all the causes and roots of this tragedy and prosecute the perpetrators of this unforgivable mistake and inform the honourable people of Iran and the families of the victims about it. It is also necessary to adopt the required arrangements and measures to address the weaknesses of the country's defence systems to make sure such a disaster is never repeated. Again, I extend my condolences to the families of the victims of this painful accident, praying for those who lost their lives and wishing their bereaved families patience and rewards.
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