I have not read Farooq's essay bcs I have had problems opening it.
-- I used to think that universal harmony existed between Christians and Muslims in Yorubland, with some of their most prominent politicians being Muslims.
I found the autobioaphical account of conversion from Christianity to Islam engrossing but sadly lacking in comparative analysis in relation to Northern Nigerian Islam and it's version of Sharia.
Is this not the same Muslim North where people have been beheaded, non-Muslims massacred, all for claims of insulting Islam grounded in situations that are best described as ridiculous or even in response to anti-Muhammed cartoons in another country, where people have been sentenced to death for composing songs seen as elevating a religious leader above Muhammed, where child marriage is common based on Islamic history leading to terrible damage to the internal organs of those children?
Yet, Islam is beautiful in various ways across it's varieties.
We need more scrupulous analyses of our faiths.
As a believer in various traditional African spiritualities, I am aware that the practice of human sacrifice persists within it.
I have responded by analysing it's logic and suggesting alternatives in an essay readily accessible online. It's of no use if I ignore such ugly realities of my faith.
On Amotekun and Islam, the issue looks delicate to me. Nigeria is engaged in an existential war between other Nigerians and forces of ethnic domination centred in a jihad mentality originating from the Muslim North, even though the kidnapping branch of the current security crisis seems even more terrible in the North, deeply Islamic.
But the ethno-religious angle would be unwise to ignore. Islam seems to be the only religion with a significant number of it's adherents pursuing supremacist goals in the name of their faith.
If I were in charge of recruitment into Amotekun, I would carefully investigate the aititudes of a potential Yoruba Muslim recruit on that subject, bcs for some, religious loyalties supersede those of race.
As for the CIA and the FBI, following the horror of 9/11 committed by radical Muslims embedded in US society, I expect Muslim identity in a potential recruit into those agencies would inspire more intense scrutiny as to the person's overt and covert loyalties.
Anything else would be stupid and those agencies did not become what they are by being stupid.
Googling the subject should reveal much.
Thanks
Toyin
On Tue, Nov 9, 2021, 10:15 Ademola Azeez <ademolaazeez2016@gmail.com> wrote:
--It's very interesting reading Segun Ogungbemi's response on the points raised by Farooq. Every believer of a particular faith would always promote or protect the interest of his faith. It is true that most public institutions and private businesses are headed by Christian adherents in the Yoruba land of South West and you should expect what Farooq exposed in his write up. What Segun Ogungbemi simply did was to corroborate those points raised by Farooq.The Amotekun example raised here by Segun Ogungbemi would be difficult to be implemented especially for members of a particular faith to discriminate against those who believe in another faith on the simple reason of 'belief in brotherhood". What brotherhood would make you to subject your family or race to extinction? If Amotekun projects are being funded by public funds, what makes the adherents of a particular faith think that they have exclusive rights to isolate the others who are not of their faith. Amotekun project is not for, and can never be for a particular faith. And those who operate on the thinking exposed by Farooq should change that dangerous mindset because it would consume them ultimately.On the question Ogungbemi wants us to ask Farooq that "how many Muslims who hold loyalty to their brotherhood are employed by the CIA, FBI etc in the United States where he lives? The leaderships of both CIA and FBI would consider merit, competence and nationalism first in doing their recruitments because it is America first and not any other primordial sentiments that include religious faith. It is here in Nigeria that we hide under religious faith to perpetuate all kinds of atrocities at the expenses of the citizens and when we are caught, we simply resort to faith. What a deceit and disaster!I believe that no reasonable and responsible person will want to subject his family or race to extermination on the sentiments of religious faith and compromise security of his people.As a person, I will like to know what Muslims have done to the Christian institutions in Ilorin so as to subject it to critical and objective analysis before I can agree with Ogungbemi that "It is an eye opener and warning to the Yoruba anywhere in the country.In conclusion, I will agree with Farooq on most of the issues he raised because I have personally experienced some of them even though I fought those discriminatory tendencies to a standstill and eventually won. One was able to do that because one believes in justice, fairness, merit and competence irrespective of what faith the other belongs to. We need more ideological orientation, education and clarity to be able to understand better, the issues at play.Wahab Ademola Azeez, PhDProvost, Federal College of Education (Technical), Akoka, Lagos, NigeriaOn Mon, 8 Nov 2021, 7:59 am , <seguno2013@gmail.com> wrote:--I think Farooq got it wrong. He cannot use a few examples of people who claimed to be discriminated against in places of employment because of their faith as a general representation of what happen in Yorubaland.I think Farooq should have inquired thoroughly, if indeed, Mr. Femi Osibona never hired any Muslims at all in the entire business enterprise as a developer. Does Farooq know, for instance, if Ahmed Kenleku, Shola Bade Nurudeen and Waliu Lateef listed as survivors of the Ikoyi collapsed building by the Lagos State Government are not his employees?Secondly, the Amotekun security outfit in the Southwest cannot, in all honesty, employ those whose beliefs of brotherhood will undermine the strategic methods of security protection for their States.Ask Farooq, how many Muslims who hold loyalty to their brotherhood are employed by the CIA, FBI etc in the United States where he lives?I believe no reasonable and responsible leader will saddle people whose faith and loyalty will betray security of his people.Is Farooq aware what Muslims have done to the Christian institutions in Ilorin? It is an eye opener and warning to the Yoruba anywhere in the country.Segun Ogungbemi.Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 7, 2021, at 3:19 AM, Assensoh, Akwasi B. <aassenso@indiana.edu> wrote:Dear Brother Farooq:
Thank you very much for the inspiring Dr. Ibrahim Waziri story; please, note that some of us from
other African countries used your 2009 educational (OND/HND) column to counsel relatives and
others. Thanks to Brother 'Tony Akinola, of blessed memory, we came across your column, which
we shared widely. Today -- several of them with OND/HND diplomas -- have travelled to Canada
and USA, respectively, to earn their terminal academic and professional degrees.
While lauding Bauchi-born Dr. Waziri, I also applaud your poignant columns and blog. Above all,
many of us urge you to keep up the great selfless work, just as Guiding Angels always do for others!
Sincerely,
A.B. Assensoh.
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Today's Saturday Tribune/Peoples Gazette column uses the story of one Adebowale Sikiru whom Foursquare MD Femi Osibona (who sadly died in the collapsed building he managed) denied a job only because of his Muslim faith to call attention to the time-honored casual bigotry and inferiorization of Yoruba Muslims by their own people in their own land. I'm ready and loaded for bear for the predictable attacks from people who'd rather sweep this uncomfortable truth under the drug and attack the messenger.--
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