Thursday, February 24, 2022

Re: [External] Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - African scholars!

it would be great to observe a demonstration  of how this can be done-

''You understand the Fulani herdsmen, but you cannot convert it to a global theory.''

Toyin Falola


A beautiful vision-


''I teach  World History in addition  to African History, so my thinking is multidimensional over time and space, and  comparative, in methodology.  As a historian I take pride in  creating awareness and  criticizing all sides, at my own  pace.we study history and politics - to  promote knowledge production and knowledge sharing, understanding and historical  awareness, in a local, regional  and global context. Let scholars collect a thousand  insights from various perspectives.''


Gloria Emeagwali




On Fri, 25 Feb 2022 at 00:58, 'Emeagwali, Gloria (History)' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
There you go again, Ken, trying 
to muzzle voices and suppress
historical information. Assensoh's
reference to Grenada was quite
in order,  and I thank him for that.

I also reflected on the Hawaiian 
Kingdom, having just come
across a few well documented 
discussions on the subject. 
In fact I am embarrassed to
realize how long this case was
unknown by me, and just
learnt a few new facts about
the human rights violation
of its last queen. You are
a  real  authentic  non- partisan
 specialist and advocate of 
human rights, aren't you?

We can even add Libya, Iraq and
dozens more, to Grenada 
and Hawaii- each relevant to
some aspect of super power
 conflict and conflict resolution.

I am actually wrapping my head
around the interconnections
with Serbia, 1914, as well.
I teach  World History in addition 
to African History, so my
thinking is multidimensional
over time and space, and 
comparative, in methodology.

As a historian I take pride in 
creating awareness and 
criticizing all sides, at my own 
pace. Grenada was wrong and so
too Hawaii and  Ukraine,
Iraq, Libya etc.They each have
unique circumstances, and 
can be categorized according
to a long list of variables.

What's the purpose of airing them?

For the same reason that we study
history and politics, Ken - to 
promote knowledge production
and knowledge sharing,
understanding and historical 
awareness, in a local, regional 
and global context.

I suppose that as a diehard 
paternalist, you have the urge 
to speak on behalf of your
mentees, juniors and subordinates.

I am not one of them, and
never will be.




Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU
africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali
Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association


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these are weak or false equivalencies. what's the purpose of airing them? there is no end to the bad things the u.s. did, but because i picked my nose yesterday doesn't mean i can't get mad at your doing still worse today.

what is the logic of this for a progressive? we need to feel free, as intellectuals, to criticize the bad things we see, to lend our voices to cry out against them. if my country's past, or even present, were bad, if it acted in the wrong, what does that have to do with us crying out? failing to do so legitimizes historical evils, over and over, anywhere
ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

harrow@msu.edu


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Subject: Re: [External] Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - African scholars!
 
Grenada is a great reference.I 
remember, too, what the US did 
to the Kingdom of Hawaii,  start 
of the 20th century.

the-truth-behind-the-illegal-overthrow-
of-the-hawaiian-kingdom/







Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU
africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali
Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association

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Brother Assensoh:
What specifically ignited my response was TF's clarion call: "Develop your theories—don't let others impose their theories upon you."

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 2:59 PM Assensoh, Akwasi B. <aassenso@indiana.edu> wrote:

Brother Victor:


You are correct that when the Igbo abuse the Yoruba, and vice versa, it is all in the family. Therefore, the scenario falls under "Afrocentric articulation"!


SIR Toyin wrote that his coffee almost fell when "one person said the US intervention was for good." Well, my cup of tea fell when I opened a parcel yesterday, which contained another tome,  Decolonizing African Studies: Knowledge Production, Agency, And Voice by Toyin Falola: published by Rochester University Press, at i-xii; 6678 pages! I remembered his recent Cambridge University tome on Nigeria, which had a cover showing a poor Nigerian (a  "Hausa man"?) carrying the heavy map of Nigeria on his shoulder, all by himself!!


Well, what is happening to Ukraine, like a soccer ball being kicked from left and right, is sad! I remember what Mr. Ronald Reagan's armed forces did in 1983 to Grenada; and what happened to the lawful Prime Minister Maurice Bishop (1944-1983)? Is that a replay in Ukraine? When i think of it, my cup of tea will fall again, again, and  again!!! 


A.B. Assensoh.  

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Rev.  A.B. Assensoh, LL.M., PH.D.,

Co-Book Review Editor, African & Asian Studies Journal,
Professor Emeritus (Indiana University), 
Courtesy Professor Emeritus (University of Oregon), 
Department of History, 
McKenzie Hall (2nd Floor), University of Oregon,
Eugene, OR 97403,   U.S.A.

Telephone: (541) 953-7710
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TF:
That's an Afrocentric articulation. Nice job!

On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 8:18 AM Toyin Falola <toyinfalola@austin.utexas.edu> wrote:

The most disturbing to me in the Ukraine matter is not the US media and their scholars who are embedded in the empire project. They are all in one room, one brain, CNN, the professors, and the White House.

The most disturbing to me are African commentators on Ukraine.

 

So your continent was conquered, but they don't understand how imperialism works.

 

You are ethnically divided, but you only understand Biafra and don't see Biafra in other places. You clap for Biya when he destroys Western Cameroon, and praises the West when he undermines the projects of minorities.

 

You suffered from the Cold War but you don't understand it when it unfolds in other places. You don't see Ukraine as a proxy project.

 

You were pawns by superpowers but you don't understand it when you see it in others.

 

You complain about ethnicity but you don't apply it to other places.

 

You insult Lagos, but you don't see dirty Peckham in London and slums in North of Paris

 

When Israel acts, you see them as the "Chosen People" but when Ethiopia acts, they are devils.

 

You see secessionist movements in your continent but you cannot relate it to other places.

 

You understand the Fulani herdsmen, but you cannot convert it to a global theory.

 

The French occupied your continent, but today you can clap for Macron in Ukraine over Putin. You don't see that Putin and Macron are the same!

 

Illicit flow of wealth from Africa is now $85 billion a year, but you cannot relate it to your conditions and destructions.

 

US and Belgium destroyed Lumumba and Congo, but you cannot apply this to other issues.

 

They abused Muslims as the greatest terrorists in the world but you don't see Europeans as terrorists, etc.

 

One person told me yesterday that US intervention is for good. My cup of coffee almost fell. US does not allow regional solutions to crises, including in the current one. You cannot go to El-Paso on the Mexican border and locate your missiles there directed at the US. Nuclear submarine near China you see it as the protection of global capitalism.

 

They are asking you not to teach critical theory but every day in private, the Igbo abuse the Yoruba, the Yoruba abuse the Igbo, and they all abuse the Fulani. You see racism in the US, but you don't see it in Morocco.

 

Develop your theories—don't let others impose their theories upon you.

TF

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