Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - FWD : Calling Russia’s Attack ‘Unprovoked’ Lets U.S. Off the Hook

sorry, cornelius, totally disagree.

in fact, if the u.s. had wished to invade and take over cuba, what was to stop it? the bay of pigs failure seemed to end that aspiration, a half-hearted, half-assed endeavor.

no, i answered elsewhere with my views. putin is an expansionist, and should have joined the EU years ago, stopped his despotism, and joined the moves to make the world better. he has done the opposite, and we all are paying the price.

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

harrow@msu.edu

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Poland, Hungary, and the other East European countries (Albania, Bulgaria, Czechoslovakia, East Germany, Hungary, Poland, Romania) that were members of the Warsaw Pact and have since changed colours and joined NATO were not part of the USSR.

Relatively speaking, compared to Ukraine, the Baltic State of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania (former Swedish Colonies) are small fry….

Could we not also see that the prospect of Ukraine the formerly closest to Russia and the second most important state in the former USSR joining the enemy by installing missiles targetting Mother Russia would be seen as the kind of treachery that would certainly be the last straw?

Can you imagine Texas seceding from the Union and joining forces with e.g. Cuba to install hypersonic nuclear-tipped Russian missiles pointing at Uncle Sam's Pentagon? Should it be unreasonable for even sleepy Joe Biden or Kenneth Harrow himself to say no to that kind of move?

Putin's conditions for an immediate cessation of hostilities are simple :

Cease military action

Change its constitution to enshrine neutrality

Acknowledge Crimea as Russian territory

Recognise the separatist republics of Donetsk and Lugansk as independent territories.

The fact is that in the coming weeks Russia is likely to demonstrate what is known as overwhelming force.

But it appears that Zellenskyy still hiding in his bunker somewhere, doesn't want to seek peace and pursue it, doesn't want to make any concessions to peace, would prefer to prolong the suffering of the Ukrainian people – so unnecessarily. By praying to NATO to declare a no-fly zone over Ukraine, he seems to think that Joe Biden will do for him what Obama- Hillary did to Gaddafi and that they ( his errand boys in NATO & EU – maybe Brazil too ) - should supply him the latest attack jets - like manna from Heaven...so that he can defend "every inch" of his territory and win a war that he can never win. Ukraine is not Afghanistan.

Zelensky should wake up and smell the coffee:

Putin has several 'grisly' options before turning to nuclear weapons, warns Michael Gove

The former comedian is already sounding like Comical Ali

On Monday, 7 March 2022 at 19:33:34 UTC+1 Kenneth Harrow wrote:

call it what you will. i believe the issue of ukraine going west was not the provocation; it was the dismantling of the u.s.s.r, and putin's determination to put it back together. he wanted to re-incorporate ukraine back into russia. that was the beginning and end of it; the question of nato arms was an excuse. if it were real, we'd have war in poland and hungary and latvia and lithuania and moldava etc now.

maybe he'll use nuclear blackmail to try to get the balkans back now, too, since he was able to march into ukraine with no military opposition outside the ukrainians. who's to stop him?

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

har...@msu.edu

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Calling Russia's Attack 'Unprovoked' Lets U.S. Off the Hook

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