Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Jeffrey Sachs - Horrible Clash Between Russia And The USA

The more this war goes on, the more wagner's interactions in africa are revealed, the more i find their authoritarian state an intolerable menace.

Everything sachs can say about american covert operations, which we on the left always opposed, doesn't change that fact.

The problem is that we have to retain our ability to frame a reasonable critique of china (just say ouighars, or tianamen sq) or any other state—be it african or western—and not let go of our judgments. 

I imagine many states, rulers, had historical times when we supported them. Habyarimana was good, for a while… 

Don't think i can really say that about mobuto. 

Even nyerere had his oppressive side when it came to the forced collectives. 

And so on.

Right now, the only good thing one could say about putin is that he opposes western hegemony. That's also like saying, hitler opposed american domination.

So what? He was still a monster, and so is putin 

Biden has his flaws; america has its flaws; they are not monstrous now. To the contrary, i would vote for biden if he ran again.

Bottom line in ukraine: both putin and zelensky should compromise on their goals, let some of ukrainiana territory go to russia, and end the war. That will happen eventually, and meanwhile people are being killed as ukraine continues to resist russian hegemonical domination.

I don't know how else to think about this.

Ken

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Jeffrey Sachs - Horrible Clash Between Russia And The USA

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