Tuesday, December 26, 2023

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Ìkà, By Toyin Falola

Thanks to edward mensah for his measured response.
Ken harrow

Kenneth Harrow
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Emeritus Professor of English, Michigan State University
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Ìkà, By Toyin Falola
 
In response to your description of the October 7th event as unprovoked, I beg to tell a short story.  During the apartheid years in South Africa a Zulu grandfather was asked to lead the naming ceremony of his first grandson.  The grandfather took one look at the hands of the week old grandson and said, "May these hands grow strong enough to pick up a stone and throw it at a  white man"
Would Chidi call that attack, when it happens,  an unprovoked attack?
I guess one would do anything for freedom. That's why the moto of New Hampshire is "give me liberty or give me death"; and why slaves on a ship from West Africa would jump into the sea at any opportunity they get.
What happened on October 7th resulting in the deaths of Israeli civilians must be condemned by all. But within the larger cindition under which Palestinians have been living the event can also be described by reasonable people as not really unprovoked.
I certainly hope and pray that the two groups find a way to live in peace.


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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Ìkà, By Toyin Falola
 
Gloria,

In the aftermath of the Hamas unprovoked attack on Israel on 7th October, 2023 that saw many Israelis killed, some maimed, while others were taken as hostages, the "supreme leader" of the Islamic Republic of Iran said, "we kiss the foreheads of Hamas fighters". We all know what this means in Islamic societies.

There is also need to highlight and record that Iran "supreme leader" endorsement of terrorism.

Surprising, that vile endorsement have not been highlighted and maybe recorded.

-CAO.

On Sunday 24 December 2023, 'Emeagwali, Gloria (History)' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
It was so disheartening to witness Lloyd Austin, USA's chief military gorilla, his face full of smiles giving the high five to his Israeli counterpart, a high five, grinning from ear to ear
CH

Lloyd Austin is a neocon puppet, 
and so, too, Linda Thomas-Greenfield etc.
They are the  camouflage for 
nefarious, neocon politics. Deep 
down, most of the neocons
are Afrophobic,  but to wade through
stormy international waters,  
they strategically place these puppets 
in Blackface to implement their 
War Manifesto for global dominance. 

I hope these Black actors understand
 fully why they were hired.

Unfortunately, narcissistic Trump 
is an unguided missile with neo-
 Nazi leanings, and could be no 
less lethal and dangerous than
Blinking Biden and his neocon
troops.


neoconservative-ukraine/
Thanks to Biden the WarParty is Back



Professor Gloria Emeagwali 
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU
africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali
Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association


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Gloria in Excelsis, Kenneth, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju et al, 


https://www.facebook.com/reel/7379609462052122


The reality: Al Jazeera


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyAp0R_gh24


Ramadan begins on 9th of March,2024…imagine…


Ihandshakes and several pats on the back to Israel's own chief gorilla, Austin's body language saying clearly, "we're with ya"  - the "we" of course excluding fuqara like me, the "we" meaning him (seasoned house negro) and Biden, together as the one known the world over as Uncle Sam. Lloyd Austin doesn't want to be charged with antisemitism, clearly too (and this is an honest opinion)  house negro doesn't want to meet the same fate as Claudine Gay 


As the Holy quran puts it ( Surat Al-Baqarah : 14 - 20


"And when they fall in with those who believe, they say: "We believe"; but when they go apart to their devils they declare: "Lo! we are with you; verily we did he but mock." 


This holiday season, yours truly wishes Peace on earth and Goodwill to all men, wishing everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year in advance. 


If only it were and could be so, but the fact is that no one can chant O, little town in Bethlehem without shedding a tear or two. This is so because the lyrics only ring true of the past; today, how ironic that first stanza sounds:


"O little town of Bethlehem

How still we see thee lie

Above thy deep and dreamless sleep

The silent stars go by

Yet in thy dark streets shineth

The everlasting light

The hopes and fears of all the years

Are met in thee tonight"


Tonight and tomorrow night and the nights after that, the conditions in Bethlehem which is situated on the West Bank , the conditions there are far from angelic. There are no three wise men such as Ojogbon Falola, Claude Kayat and Mikael W. Gejel on the horizon, far from all the peace and quiet  - far from baby Jesus's little manger in the cowshed, as Adepoju would put it, far from that idyllic picture "in time and space", there is all that disquiet - the climate of fear - that Wole Soyinka was once lecturing about, Palestinians in the West Bank are being cowed into submission to the dragon settlers and their enablers, when submission should be to Allah only. There is some quiet but not so much peace or tranquillity in the West Bank or in Bethlehem, speak less of peace and love, goodwill and tranquillity in Gaza, the eye of the devil's storm, the devil's agenda 


" And when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am about to place a viceroy on the earth, they said: Wilt thou place therein one who will do harm therein and will shed blood, while we, we hymn Thy praise and sanctify Thee? He said: "Surely I know that which ye know not."


Surah Al-Baqarah - 30


Gloria says, " so there is no

need to "imagine" such an atrocity" (The Black Holocaust )


Kenneth Harrow - country specialist in Rwanda and Burundi for Amnesty International, says, " i heard exactly the same fears of jews being targeted for genocide by the arabs " and adds, " I remember the same fears and rhetoric from tutsis and hutus from rwanda and burundi, back in 1994." (God forbid, Holocaust No2 for the Jews, not in Poland & Germany & the rest of the EU this time, but in their ancient homeland, including ( ah nostalgia) Judea & Samaria


Stoking the fire, one no less than the late Ovadia Yosef, former Chief Rabbi of Israel  sounding off here and wanting to be taken seriously and not being helpful about goyim (non-Jews)


"Goyim were born only to serve us. Without that, they have no place in the world – only to serve the People of Israel."

"In Israel, death has no dominion over them… With gentiles, it will be like any person – they need to die, but [God] will give them longevity. Why? Imagine that one's donkey would die, they'd lose their money.

"This is his servant… That's why he gets a long life, to work well for this Jew."

"Why are gentiles needed? They will work, they will plow, they will reap. We will sit like an effendi and eat… That is why gentiles were created."

He could have wrapped all the above in the beautiful wording of chapter four of the venerable Chaim Moshe Luzzatto's magnum opus Derekh Hashem // The Way of God , the chapter entitled On Israel and the nations  

In passing, I'd just like to observe how unsatisfactory this Krishnamurti quote is, bearing in mind what Kenenth here: "I am jewish, as you know,"- just about not the right time to introduce himself to his next-door neighbour in Southern Lebanon (he would be taken into custody, as a hostage, peremptory - as a bargaining chip  -in exchange for at least 1, 000 Palestinian prisoners being unlawfully imprisoned ) 


Krishnamurti: "When you call yourself an Indian or a Muslim or a Christian or a European, or anything else, you are being violent. Do you see why it is violent? Because you are separating yourself from the rest of mankind. When you separate yourself by belief, by nationality, by tradition, it breeds violence. So a man who is seeking to understand violence does not belong to any country, to any religion, to any political party or partial system; he is concerned with the total understanding of mankind."


So, if we could imagine with Johnny Lennon, that there was no heaven, no hell, no countries ( no Uncle Sam, no Israel) no religion ( no rabbis, no popes, no accusations and counter accusations) no possessions, no greed, no hunger, then how would we define ourselves? 


The fact is, Krishnamurti doesn't go far enough.


This is going far enough:


" The way to truth lies through the destruction of the false. To destroy the false, you must question your most inveterate beliefs. Of these, the idea that you are the body is the worst. With the body comes the world, with the world - God, who is supposed to have created the world and thus it starts - fears, religions, prayers, sacrifices, all sorts of systems - all to protect and support the child-man, frightened out of his wits by monsters of his own making. Realize that what you are cannot be born nor die and with the fear gone, all suffering ends.

So, first of all, abandon all self-identification, and stop thinking of yourself as such-and-such or so-and-so, this or that. Abandon all self-concern, worry not about your welfare, material or spiritual, abandon every desire, gross or subtle, and stop thinking of achievement of any kind. You are complete here and now, you need absolutely nothing." ~ Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj



 



On Wednesday 20 December 2023 at 21:00:37 UTC+1 Emeagwali, Gloria (History) wrote:


Lots of Black people were slaughtered 
during the Holocaust, so there is no
need to "imagine"such an atrocity- and 
we are witnessing a reenactment right 
now,  to boot.




Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU
africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali
Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association


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Gloria in Excelsis Emeagwali,


Because of Gaza, even if he's still around, Biden is not going to be re-elected even if he's bankrolled by big business, the Military Industrial Complex etc, and supported by Israel, AIPAC, the Israeli Lobby and their prayers. Since he knows this, why doesn't he just quit, and give the chance to a younger, more capable and less tainted person as advocated here


According to that Chinese curse, both Republicans and  Democrats (crazy demo) are sure living in interesting times over there in the US of A and with Sleepy Joe Biden doing so badly at the polls, I'm sure that at this very moment, the old rogue is singing Gloria in Excelsis Deo and Oh Happy Day at the unexpected windfall, actually a bombshell from the Colorado Supreme Court that dear Trump is "not eligible to run", perhaps a precursor to the 2nd Civil War?


 Re - " the Nuremberg reference may be taking it too far."


 Indeed, Nuremberg Laws culminated in the Holocaust and that was taking it far too far.


I usually explain the Holocaust to the people of colour who may be antisemitic, as follows: Imagine if tomorrow the Neonazis ( the Ìkà people) drew up a plan to exterminate all the Black People in the world  - as their The Final Solution


The way I see it: According to St. Paul, for the unbelievers "Satan is the god of this world" which means that the evil which is present at an individual level has been known to grow in force and intensity, sometimes disguised as mass movements with ideologies under innocuous or not so innocuous names such as Apartheid, Aryanism, Barbarism, Colonialism, "Exceptionalism", Fascism, the Supremacist ideology/theology of  "God's Chosen People" currently being expressed as  "Zionism" with all its institutionalised militaristic and colonialistic features, as if the omnipotent God is not capable of protecting His own Temple or protecting six million of His Chosen people from the ravages of Nazism and the Holocaust, or in the Messianic age, returning the His God-fearing chosen people or His secular people to the land that "He" allegedly promised them,  without more bloodshed and dispossession of the unchosen people who He also made " In His own image and likeness"...


As the bard croons in that raspy voice of his " Sometimes Satan comes as a "Man of Peace" - a good recipe for war, when you start doubting the man of peace as the one who might - without warning  - morph into "the man of lawlessness" - a criminal without any regard for God's Law or the  International Law  that has been agreed upon by the comity of nations and 


the United Nations which approved the partition of Palestine  

the United Nations  which approved the creation of the State of Israel

and also approved the admission of Israel as a member of the United Nations in 1949 

and now Israel doesn't give a damn about abiding by UN Security Council Resolutions 242, and 338…


We (the bigger we) have to be careful, that we are not deceived by appearances, resulting in some people winding up pledging and giving unconditional support to Benjamin Netanyahu & his crew that includes Bezalel Smotrich who happens to be a settler) and  Itamar Ben-Gvir a 21st century / 5784 zealot acting in the spirit of Meir Kahane's "Our Challenge";


We have to be careful, that we are not deceived by appearances, resulting in some people winding up worshipping the AntiChrist who according to Christian eschatology will be identified as one of "God's Chosen People"  - hence the gullible will be easily deceived


This could be a good example of taking it too far, this quote by Krishnamurti ( who rejected the role of being groomed to be the Messiah) 


The full quote: "



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