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peter opara <ogbuonyeiro@yahoo.com> Date: 12 July 2011 12:13
Subject: Edo_Global. Nigerians and Nose Poking... ayo.city - Re:Amazing Differences BTW Nigeria and Libya-Not On Mainstream
Toyin, do you know any of these rebels? Did Ghadafi wake up one morning and began bombing and shooting Libyans? When a people take up arms against their government and begin destroying public property for whatever reasons, what do you expect government to do, fold its arms? Time for Ghadafi to go, that is alright; but who are David Cameron and Sokozy to tell Ghadafi when to go or even to leave his country. What has Cameron and Sakozy ever did for Libyans? Is it road they gave Libyans? Water? Health institutions? Schools? Scholarships? Houses? Now, look at your own Nigeria for all of its 50 years. Would you not desire a Ghaddafi who invested public monies for public good for Nigeria? Nigerians do know to poke nose at others' homes, when theirs is nothing to write home about. --- On Tue, 7/12/11, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> wrote:
From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com> Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ayo.city - Re:Amazing Differences BTW Nigeria and Libya-Not On Mainstream To: "usaafricadialogue" <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com>, "dandalin siyasa" <dandalin-siyasa@yahoogroups.com>, naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com, "NigerianID@yahoogroups.com" <nigerianid@yahoogroups.com>, "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>, "Edo Global" <Edo_Global@yahoogroups.com>, ngpolitics@googlegroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 12, 2011, 7:01 AM
Get real.
The whole problem started bcs Gaddafi was murdering Libyans who protested against him, protests similar to those being done elsewhere in the Arab world.
All that is written here might be real but it does not replace representative democracy, even when it is flawed.As someone in Saudi Arabia put it when their government bought off the threat of protests with cash gifts, the issue is about collective sovereignty of the citizen not about welfare paternalism, which is part of the Libyan and the Saudi rulership mentality. The sun has set for Gaddafi's dictatorship and time is ticking steadily for that of others in the Arab world.
Yes. The West is often duplicitous. Yes, if they dont hope to gain from this and turn a profit, too, I would be shocked and revise my understanding of international politics. But no one else is going to make sure Gaddafi does not just swallow the dissenting Libyans. The challenge is that of orchestrating maximum gain for the self sacrificing Libyans, doing the hitherto unthinkable by fighting a brutal and uncompromising dictator, and the West investing so much material, human and political capital in this initiative. Knowing the West does not like him, he was wise enough to slaughter his own people instead of approaching the issue with circumspection.
The lizard that knows that its enemies are prowling would be careful about the kind of noise it makes. The world is changing.
Gaddafi is still in the past. Mubarak and Ben Ali respected the verdict of the unstoppable will of the people. The Syrian and Saudi leaders are only living on borrowed time.
Cuba seems to remain socially and economically moribund because one revolutionary insists that he and his family must rule forever and that the people cannot be allowed to elect their own leaders. China will have to take stock of its own militarized paternalism, in which a closed group, unelected by anyone, determines the fate of the country. When the present generation have had their fill of so called material well being China is being lauded for, they might look inward and see that they are really prisoners in a cage, a pleasant cage, but a cage nevertheless. Democracy, particularly as currently practiced everywhere, is flawed, but I am yet to observe a superior method of government.
thanks
toyin
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