Tuesday, July 24, 2012

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Say it ain’t true! The Great Pyramids of Egypt in danger?

I read it.  It says 'thou' and 'you.'  Personal pronouns.  It doesn't say 'they' and 'them.'  It speaks directly to what a person, an individual may or may not possess, keep or create.  

Mosaic law does not tell folks to go out and take other folks stuff.  And it doesn't say to re-write five thousand year old history.  It doesn't say to destroy art which belonged to those long dead and gone.  

It doesn't say that at all,



On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:
Lovely La Vonda R. Staples

complains, "All of this destruction is making me crazy"
 Albert Einstein wondered like La Vonda
"A question that sometimes drives me hazy:
am I or are the others crazy?"

The solution?
Amor vincit omnia

This is serious:
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/519426/jewish/The-Second-Commandment.htm

Supplementary to what Don Harrow says here's how it really is:

From a strictly Islamic point of view,
 history is divided into two:

Pre-Islamic times known as the darkness of Jahiliyya and the period
ushered in by the last prophet of al Islam's uncompromising
monotheism.

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&gs_nf=1&cp=9&gs_id=7&xhr=t&q=Jahiliyya&pf=p&output=search&sclient=psy-ab&oq=Jahiliyya&gs_l=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=d7232c1e4000512c&biw=1024&bih=636

When Maraboutism which is widespread in West Africa, encounters the
purifying forces of the Salafi missionaries, there is always a
problem. The problem arises out of Islam's strict monotheism
especially as interpreted by the Salafi, and their extreme concern
about idolatry, a sin that the Almighty according to them, is never
going to forgive, namely SHIRK  - attributing any partner or partners
to the Almighty or relying on any other than HIM. So, one of the
functions that Islam's Messiah Isa ( Jesus) will fulfil according to
Islam, is that after he arrives one sunny afternoon ( at midday to be
precise) on the roof of the great mosque in Damascus, he will
consequently, break the cross , destroy all the images in the churches
and kill the swine, upon this his second coming which the Christian
and Muslim faithful expect any day soon.

To John Edward Philips : After the Ayodha fracas, Hindu fanatics will
probably forward a claim that Westminster Abbey is an ancient Hindu
Temple....

Graves are where people are supposed to rest in peace?

"more slowly in Mecca and Medina" did you say?

Well, here's another dimension to the problem. "Sectarian violence",
as the unaffiliated tend to call it:

As Imam Khomeini ( r.a.) is reported to have said

""The Islamic and non-Islamic powers of the world will not admit our
power till such time that we establish our hold over Makkah and
Madinah because these are the centers and citadels of Islam. Hence our
domination over these places is an essential requirement ... when as a
conqueror I will enter Makkah and Madinah, the first thing to be done
at that time by me would be to dig out two idols (Abu Bakr and Umar)
lying by the side of the Prophet's grave."

(The anti-Shia propaganda  versions I read during the war that Iraq
imposed on Iran added that after digging them up they would both be
either crucified or hanged from the nearest tree)

http://www.discoveringislam.org/shia_mahdi.htm

6.      Digging up the graves of the Prophet's Sahabahs (Companions)

                     وأجيء إلى يثرب فأهدم الحجرة وأخرج من بها وهما
طريان فآمر بهما تجها البقيع وأمر بخشبتين يصلبان عليهما
        بحار الأنوار ج 53/104-105

 "(When Shia's Mahdi) Will come to Yathrib (Medina's old name), and
destroy the Al-Hujra Al-Nabawiyya (the Room of Aisha in which Prophet
Mohammad (s.a.w.) was buried and later Abu Bakr and Omar were also
buried there) and will dig out who is in it while they are lean and
will order them to be sent to Al-Baqi and order two pieces of wood to
be crucified on them…"  (Al-Majlisi, Bihar al-Anwar, Vol. 53, p. 104
-105)

The graves of Abu Bakr Al-Siddiq (r.a.) and Umar bin al-Khattab (r.a.)
(Prophet Mohammad's companions and successors as Caliphs) are to be
dug up, and they are to be crucified and flogged in front of the
crowds. Both of them will be resurrected to receive their sentences.
(Ni'matullah Al-Jazairi, Al-Anwar Al-Numaniyah, Vol.2, p. 85 and Baqir
Al-Majlisi, Haq al-Yaqeen, Vol. 2, p. 242)







On 24 Juli, 01:51, "La Vonda R. Staples" <lrstap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Cornelius!  All of this destruction is making me crazy(er).  What is the
> point?  Can't someone reach out and touch these folks?  What do you think
> the solution for the destruction of the world's monuments could be?
>
> Was there a solution for the world's ancient cultures when the Christians
> came?
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 6:40 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <
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> corneliushamelb...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > is it yes or no or
> > am i supposed or
> > permitted to beat
> > about the bush
> > to the point
> > of indecision?
>
> > I x-pect all the militant, holier than thou
> > Afrikanists
> > to at least
> > be honest:
> > holler or
> > scream and shout :
>
> > Say it ain't so! The Great Pyramids of Egypt in danger?
>
> >http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/2012/07/22/say-it-ain...
>
> > Website for this image
>
> > Could be one of the signs of the approaching last days ?
> > Next : The pyramids of Egypt ?
> > First the Buddhist sculptures in Afghanistan,
> > then the desecration of Sufi shrines in Mali
> > and now this improbable news: Arab Muslim Clerics Issue Call to
> > Destroy Egypt's Great Pyramids
> > The UNESCO World Heritage Centre could not ever be happy with these
> > world heritage sites facing eternal destruction. But this is unlikely
> > to happen in Egypt, since the Great Pyramids are a great tourist
> > attraction and therefore a great source of contributing to Egypt's
> > economy….and moreover the pyramids are not objects of worship, not
> > even by the mushrikeen….
> > Should the United States ever become fully Islamized, whichever Caliph
> > or Supreme Leader that could then be ensconced in the White House will
> > probably either have to call out the National Guard to protect the
> > sculptures of George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Theodore Roosevelt
> > and Abraham Lincoln at The Mount Rushmore National Memorial …or order
> > their effacement…..
>
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La Vonda R. Staples, Writer
BA Psychology 2005 and MA European History 2009

"If your dreams do not scare you, they are not big enough."
 
Ellen Johnson Sirleaf, This Child Will Be Great; Memoir of a Remarkable Life by Africa's First Woman President.

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