Saturday, June 20, 2015

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: confederate flag

kwame
in fact, that was my point when i said, "it is not at all difficult to read what it means."
ken

On 6/20/15 5:52 PM, kwame zulu shabazz wrote:
Ken,

By focusing incessantly on the so-called "confederates" and flags we miss the point that white supremacy in the USA is systemic. White supremacy buttresses every American institutions--juridical, economic, labor, educational, healthcare, etc. Historically, white Unionist and white abolitionist did not generally support social equality for Black people. That denial continues to vex this racist nation. Black people in 2015 are still second class citizens.

kzs

On Friday, June 19, 2015 at 2:51:28 PM UTC-5, Kenneth Harrow wrote:
the nazis had their symbol; the racists in america have theirs, the confederate flag. it is not at all difficult to read what it means.
ken

On Thursday, hours after a white gunman killed nine people in a black church in Charleston, S.C., a Confederate flag continued to fly over the grounds of the state's Capitol.

The Supreme Court ruled the same day that Texas did not violate the First Amendment by refusing to allow the flag on its license plates.

The conflict over the banner of the Confederacy has been raging for decades between those who feel it is a symbol of free speech, and others who see it as a symbol of white supremacy. But with a photo emerging of Dylann Roof, the 21-year-old suspect in the Charleston church shootings, posing in front of a car with Confederate plates, the debate has been reignited on social media and beyond about whether the flag should be displayed, and whether politicians should continue to defend the flag as a symbol of Southern heritage.

Representative Mark Sanford of South Carolina, a Republican, and the state's Republican governor, Nikki R. Haley, are both drawing criticism for their views on the flag. On MSNBC's "Morning Joe," Mr. Sanford called the idea of removing the flag a "Pandora's box" and a "complex issue within our state."

Ms. Haley, who on Friday called for Mr. Roof to face the death penalty, was also facing criticism for referring to the flag as a "sensitive issue" but refusing to remove it in the past.

A Haley spokesman told ABC that use of the Confederate flag — seen flying high in the South Carolina capital while other flags flew at half-staff — could not be altered without approval from the state Legislature.

Cornell William Brooks, national president of the N.A.A.C.P., said on Friday that those who said the flag was "merely a symbol of years gone by" had it all wrong. The flag, he said, is an "emblem of hate" that should be banished from public life.

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"That symbol has to come down," he said, speaking at a news conference in Charleston. "That symbol must be removed from our state Capitol."



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