The House of Lords, UK debated what was termed, CONTINUING VIOLENCE BETWEEN COMMUNITIES AND ARMED GROUPS IN NIGERIA. On reading the hasard containing their Lords and Baronesses' debates, a purveyor of infantile propaganda falsified the real intention of the debaters and captioned it as, UK PARLIAMENT DISCUSSION ON RIGHT WING FULANI TERRORISM IN NIGERIA. That is the problem, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju. Unfortunately for you, many people like me are not used to reading only the headlines of articles but the entire contents to ascertain that they march the headlines.
I have asked you to produce evidence to justify your claims that Miyetti Allah's organisations have justified massacres, killings and maiming in Nigeria and the best you can offer is to refer me to links provided by Moses Ochonu in a recent debate. Only a drunk and incurable tribal warrior would have failed to read my response of 22 July 2018, on Moses Ochonu's links of which I proved that none of the links confirmed that Miyetti Allah had ever admitted supporting massacres by herdsmen. Now that you have declared Moses Ochonu as your authority on Miyetti Allah's admission to aiding and abetting massacres, the onus is on you to tell me which of his posted links supports partially or wholly the culpability of herdsmen in the alleged perpetration of massacres in Nigeria. Tell me which village they have occupied by force after killing the inhabitants.
You brought Boko Haram into the discussion by attempting to label me as their supporter. I remember once asking you and members on this forum if the translation of the English words, Western Education, are translatable to a compound word, Boko, in Hausa/Fulani. Since I know that the word Haram is from Arabic language, meaning forbid or abomination, is Boko also derived from Arabic language? If Boko is Arabic, does it mean Western Education? If not, what are the words for Western Education in Arabic language? In all, I was curious to know who labelled the Islamic rebels in Nigeria, Boko Haram, since their original name as a social welfare group in 2002 was not Boko Haram. For my questioning mind, you assumed that my observation about the inability of Nigerian officials to apply the knowledge, which they claim to possess and for which they are employed in Nigeria, is tantamount to condemnation of Western Education in Nigeria. Yet, I have explained in one my responses to you on this subject that, it does not matter whether Nigerians acquire their education from Northern, Southern, Eastern or Western part of the world, provided they are applying their educations for the benefit of our people. Forget from where you acquired your education, educated people like you in Nigeria's Ministries, Departments and Agencies are employed and paid as Permanent Secretaries, Directors, Managers and Chief Executive Officers of all kinds. Some of them have been in their positions before and after Obasanjo. Your oral and written English, like all our educated and employed MDA officials are very superb, but it has not been able to generate and distribute electricity for household and industrial use, it has not been able to pump potable water, it has not been able to refine crude oil, it has not been able to mine our iron ore and work it into steel and the educated officials are still at each other throat in the 21st century about if ranching for livestock farming is better than nomadic pastoralism. Besides the ego-boosting chauvinism and its parasitic leeching on the Nigerian working class and farmers, what other usefulness has your education contributed to the economic and industrial development of Nigeria? That is the problem you have to confront with, instead of intimidating and 'whitemailing' me as a Boko Haram.
S. Kadiri
Skickat: den 29 juli 2018 11:37
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You make sweeping and unsubstantiated allegations all the time. Tell me the names of the Miyetti Allah's representatives that admitted to massacring people, and you wobble around aimlessly like a serpent whose body is invaded by black ants. About the killings in Benue, including that of two Reverend Fathers, I forward herewith links of what an Edo man of AUCHI stock, Adam Oshiomhole said recently.
www.saharareporters.com/2018/07/28/oshiomhole-ortom-clash-over-benue-killings%E2%80%8b
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UK Parliament June 2018 Discussion on Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria and Highlights of DebateSalimonu,
The problem with you apologists for Fulani herdsmen terrorism is that you are doing an unwanted job, a needless job.
Apologists like you, and you, in particular, began by declaring that the killers had nothing to do with Fulani herdsmen.
Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation then began to declare responsibility for the massacres and to justify them.
You then declared that the Miyetti Allah spokespeople doing these were nonentities who represented no significant constituency.
Years later, no less a personage than Emir of Kano, ex-Central Bank governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi rose to declare himself and the Sultan of Sokoto, head of Nigeria's Muslims, as apex leaders of Miyatti Allah.
Your work has now switched to pretending those declarations never took place.
Sorry.
Even if you dont want to agree that Miyetti Allah is a terrorist organisation, or concede that not only is it such, it is part of a triangulation involving the Fulani led fed govt and the terrorist foot-soldiers, you should be honest enough to examine the implications of an organisation headed by the Emir of Kano and the Sultan of Soko owning up to and justifying Fulani herdsmen terrorism.
toyin
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 19:49, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:
There is nothing like a commonsense rumour or gossip and if a white man were to tell me all the things you say about the Fulani people and herdsmen, I will not call him a racist. I will, rather, look at his face and tell him that he is white in the body but black in the brain. Of course, one can be black in body, brain and mind which are African realities in life. Be thy brothers and sisters' keeper!!!!
S. Kadiri
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Skickat: den 28 juli 2018 17:38
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UK Parliament June 2018 Discussion on Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria and Highlights of DebateSalimonu,
On the Terrorism by the Owners of Fulani Cattle Herds:
Are you making an assertion that owning a large herd of cattle does not make one very rich, and possibly a millionaire? To make such an assertion in a valid manner, you have to provide information contrary to the widely known fact of the high economic value of cattle. Are you arguing agst a general assessment of the Fulani cattle industry as running into millions, if not billions? Do you have any evidence to disprove these basic commonsense assertions? Assertions that represent a decades old reality of Nigerian economy it does not need any expert knowledge to justify?
If you are, then its you who need to provide expert evidence to contradict a fact that does not detailed exploration, going by the massive numbers of Fulani cattle herds driven across Nigeria, currently obstructing traffic, eating up farmlands and even occupying classrooms across the nation.
Bottom line: The owners of the Fulani herdsmen cattle are millionaires who, instead of using their considerable economic resources to modernize their business, are using the ancient Fulani lifestyle of cattle nomadism in terrorizing Nigerians at various scales of aggression, from individual murders, maimings, rapes and recently, financial extortion of communities carried out by their nomadic affiliates, and through a terrorist campaign of massacre and community decimation and occupation centred in the Middle Belt but also tested in places like the SE as in Nnimbo.
These characters insist that Nigerians must choose between either their terrorist campaign or providing land for them and maintenance of that land at Nigerians' expense, across the nation.
They have not announced a single plan to use their considerable economic force in pursuing modernization of their cattle business. They are not outlining how they will build ranches anywhere. They are insisting that the ancient nomadic tradition must continue, with grazing routes marked out for their nomadic brethren even in the face of massive population growth and infrastructural development that has reshaped Nigeria, and with that plan failing, they are arguing for cattle colonies across Nigeria at Nigerians' expense.
They are pressing these demands through terrorism, climaxing in the regular decimation of entire communities.
The SE governors' resolution and the Anambra anti-open grazing law sums up the tenor of the increasing resistance of Nigerians to this vicious plan of internal colonization: build your ranches in the North where you are demographically centred. Transport the cattle to the South for sale by trucks. No open grazing.
I add, use your money, as self respecting business people are doing all over Nigeria, in building ranches for yourselves in the North. After all, you do not give us your beef for free. We pay for it. Why must we bear your financial responsibilities? If the govt assists you in your self help initiative, as govts may do, good. But to insist that Fulani cattle business is equivalent to Fed govt business bcs of the power of Fulani in Nigerian politics is brigandage and Nigerians are not having it, particularly when that initiative is pursued through massacre upon massacre which the right wing Fulani in the persons of Miyetti Allah justify in the name of their conquest mentality.
On the Structure of Miyetti Allah as the Civil Society Wing of a Terrorist Organisation:
Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Culural Organisation is organised in terms of a hierarchy covering various administrative regions of Nigeria and climaxing in the apex leadership, of which the Sultan of Sokoto and the Emir of Kano, ex-central bank governor Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, are the most prominent.
Fulani herdsmen terrorism has emerged as the central security threat and eventually the central challenge to Nigeria's existence since the escalation of the slowly growing terrorism of this group with Fulani cattle owner Muhamadu Buhari's assuming the Presidency in 2015, this group killing even more people than the previously deadliest terror group in Nigeria, Boko Haram Islamic terrorism, the latter originating from and centred in the Muslim North, Fulani herdsmen terrorism originating from the same region but developing a national spread with strikes in various regions and a concentration in the Middle Belt where they have decimated several communities which they have subsequently occupied with their cattle and people.
This campaign of dispossession and decimation of lives has been severally justified by Miyetti Allah leadership at various administrative levels, all the time presenting spurious claims of hundreds of stolen cows as cause for revenge on the communities they despoil while in the last Benue massacre they simply made it clear that they were going to gather in force to to defy the Benue anti-open grazing law at which point they demonstrated their defiance through the massacre of hundreds.
At no time, in this rising campaign of destruction of human lives and livelihood, in which Miyetti Allah lower level leadership justified massacre after massacre and the Fulani led fed govt behaved as if there was nothing out of place with a group declaring the right to massacre other Nigerians, did Miyetti Allah apex leadership respond to the identification of the organisation with those atrocities by its own officers, thereby indicating that those who owned up to and justified those massacres on behalf of Miyetti Allah spoke for the entire organisation and its leadership.
The apex leadership chose to respond only as Nigerians' outrage rose agst the impunity of this deadly group, asking "Who are the leaders of Miyetti Allah?", at which point the Emir of Kano, Sanusi, identified himself and the Sultan of Sokoto as the leaders of Miyetti Allah, but never dissociated the apex leadership from the actions of the lower level leadership who owned up to and justified various massacres on behalf of the organisation.
Sanusi's next response on this crisis was to rise in defense of the organisation in the last massacre they committed in Benue, in defiance of the state's anti-open grazing law, Sanusi urging those criticizing the Miyetti Allah enabled massacre to also address his claimed massacre of Fulani in Taraba, a spurious claim, not only bcs of its repudiation by the Taraba state govt but his odd failure to bring an event of such magnitude to the nation's attention when it occurred, instead choosing to use this claim as a tool of deflection from the latest outrage his organisation had committed.
Who is the terrorist Fulani herdsmen's spokesperson, who consistently justifies the massacres they commit and insists on imposing their self centered demands on Nigerians? Miyetti Allah Fulani-Socio-Cultural Organisation and their Hausa-Fulani politician affiliates and heads of Nigeria's security forces, from Muhammadu Buhari to the Inspector General of Police to the Minister of Defense.
This group of like minded people, centred in Miyetti Allah, which is the ideological centre of the Fulani herdsmen's terrorism as well as their logistical director, as indicated by the Miyetti Allah's owning up to and justifying various massacres, the latest being their open verbal defiance, mobilization of troops and eventual attack in the latest Benue massacre, thus demonstrates its character as a terrorist organization, Miyetti Allah its most obvious ideological organ, the Fulani herdsmen miltia their foot soldiers, while they, the right wing, ethnic supremacist elite Fulani, provide the social and political capital enabling the obvious political leverage empowering the terrorist army, and the unseen but very evident economic support in building and sustaining this terrorist force.
' You can fool some of the people all the time, all the people some of the time, but you are less likely to be able to fool all the people all the time'
toyin
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 at 14:56, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:
The cost of cattle makes the owners of the herds of cattle millionaires, asserts Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju, who claims his assertion to be simple logic. Similarly and by the same simple logic, one can aver that the cost of allowing men's one eye snake to take a bite at Edo women's apple makes all Edo women millionaires. Your simple logic is a perverted logic. I will not even accept your postulation as a hypothesis since you could not support your claim with the number of cattle owners in the country, the number of cattle possessed by individual owners and the average price in naira of a cow.
The people who own the cattle in the cattle pastoralism that is now Nigeria's primary scourge are almost certainly the warlords who have created the terrorist army - asserts Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju, claiming his assertion to be simple logic. There is nothing logical in saying people who own the cattle without telling readers who are the people who own the cattle. Thereafter he proceeded to imagine that his anonymous cattle owners are almost certainly the warlords who have created the terrorist army. Your postulation is just as unreasonable as a person who claims to have seen a half-pregnant or almost certainly pregnant woman. Tell readers, without dancing around, who are the people who created the terrorist army.
Miyetti Allah who justify the massacres by terrorists, are almost certainly among these terrorist financiers - imagines Oluwatoyin Adepoju, who attributes his imagination to simple logic. By your expression, Miyetti Allah who justify, you have already admitted that there are many branches of Miyetti Allah's organization and, therefore, you must be able to tell your readers which particular branch of Miyetti Allah is/are justifying massacres by terrorists. Without which branches of Miyetti Allah are justifying massacres by terrorists, he supported his malicious assumption by saying Miyetti Allah are almost certainly among these terrorist financiers. He has no concrete evidence that Miyetti Allah are financiers of terrorists which is why the expression, almost certainly. Logically and reasonably, Miyetti Allah must either be financiers of terrorism or not and they cannot under any circumstance be almost certainly terrorists financiers. If a gossiper should tell me that Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju is almost certainly a millionaire, my response to such a gossiper would be that being almost certainly a millionaire implies that he is not a millionaire. If the gossiper should support his claim by pointing to the robust cheeks, curves of rings in his neck and protruded stomach, as simple logic of Adepoju's almost certainly being a millionaire, I would express my sympathy for the gossiper's mental handicap. Thus, Vincent is almost certainly wise with his inverted and perverted simple logics.
S. Kadiri
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Skickat: den 27 juli 2018 23:52
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The cost of cattle makes the owners of the herds of cattle millionaires. Simple logic.
The people who own the cattle in the cattle pastoralism that is now Nigeria's primary scourge are almost certainly the warlords who have created the terrorist army. Simple logic.
Miyetti Allah, who justify the massacres by the terrorists, are almost certainly among these terrorist financiers. Simple logic.
A good degree of human knowledge grows by inference.
These particular inferences remain logically valid and can only be invalidated by proof to the contrary. All proof, in the current historical record, points to the validity of these inferences.
The best a member of the public can do in this instance is to make such valid inference as I have just made, the kind that law enforcement makes in order to arrive at the likely people culpable in a crime through examining such factors as motive, behavior in relation to the issues and circumstances surrounding the crime, resources to commit the crime and proximity to the scene of the crime when it occurred.
The fed govt, however, will not show itself to be making such necessary inferences and acting on them, bcs the leader of that govt and his affiliates also belong to this terrorist network.
All possible factors in the creation and military and logistical sustenance of the terrorist army points to the Fulani owners of the cattle and Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation, the latter being openly the ideological representatives of the terrorists.
I am open to examining other possibilities, from the claim of foreign terrorist groups, to the claims of wandering Bororo, to notions of drifting mercenaries from Libya, all postulates that have little merit.
We should not be like those Jews who refused to read the writing on the wall as the Nazis initiated their elimination, until it was too late.
These people are being very brazen in their approach, but like the person arguing about the color of the arrow fired into his flesh, some people simply refuse to credit the terrorists' clearly articulated goals.
Again- why should a group of people be free to feed on other Nigerians in broad daylight and get away with it?
From Atiku Abubakar threatening Nigerian with violent change bcs a Northern Muslim, namely himself, was not made PDP 2011 Presidential candidate, to Buhari declaring that the dog and baboon would be bathed in blood if he lost in 2015 to Miyetti Allah headed by the likes of the Emir of Sokoto and the Emir of Kano, Sanusi, justifying massacres of Nigerians, and yet none of these figures were questioned by law enforcement, talk less being prosecuted and imprisoned for treason and terrorism.
What does that tell us abut the relative valuation of lives of Nigerians?
How did we become prey in our own land and accept that as normal?
toyin
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 20:46, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:
It amounts to sloganeering to claim that cattle breeders are billionaires without telling us the names of those cattle breeders billionaires. Can one say that all Edo human traffickers and prostitutes are billionaires without specifying the names of the Edo billionaire traffickers and prostitutes? You claimed to know, the real owners of cattle, the 'Fulani herdsmen terrorists' and their suppliers of sophisticated weapons, why have you not, as a committed Nigerian, published their names in relation to their criminal activities fot the world to see? Slogan, as the former late Prime Minister of Israel, Shimon Peres, once said, is like parfym, it smells good but tastes bad. Be intelligent and stop inciting ethnic hatred.
S. Kadiri
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Skickat: den 27 juli 2018 17:05
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UK Parliament June 2018 Discussion on Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria and Highlights of DebateFiction-
'Cattle owners are illiterates and do not know what is ranching. '
Fulani cattle rearing is a multi mullion if not a billion naira business.
The cattle are not owned by those Fulani herdsmen trekking across Nigeria.
Who is providing the sophisticated weapons the Fulani herdsmen terrorists use and who is funding their terrorists army?
Poor, uneducated people?
Secondly, the urban Fulani are well educated and able to promote the ranching idea in the North. They have refused, preferring to force their agenda on Nigerians by enabling terrorism through Fulani herdsmen.
Miyetti Allah Fulani Socio-Cultural Organisation, the Fulani terrorist spokesman, is run by some of Nigeria's most educated, most wealthy and most socially empowered Fulani, most prominent of whom are the Sultan of Sokoto, head of Nigeria's Muslims and the Emir of Kano, ex-central bank governor Sanusi Lamiso Sanusi. The major role of this organisation in this war they are waging on Nigeria is to justify the massacres carried out by their terrorist army and press for demands enabled by the horrors wrought by that army. A terrorist command organisation.
The argument from Southern Nigerians is that Fulani herdsmen should keep their ranches in the North bcs they have proven to be dangerous neighbors. They created that reputation by themselves through their reputation for destruction of lives and livelihood and maiming across Nigeria, through the massacres in various parts of the nation carried out by their terrorist army and through their genocidal colonization campaign in the Middle Belt and through the support of Miyetti Allah who uses its social capital in supporting their massacres and through the help of the Fulani led fed govt which not only refuses to bring the bloodthirsty creatures and their enablers to book but schemes to reward them with Nigeria's resources.
This resolve of Nigerians holds even if these characters now decide to build ranches in Southern Nigeria with their own money.
They want, however, that these ranches should be built for them, with Nigeria's money, across Nigeria, with the help of those who argue that such largesse to private businesses is equal to the fundamental role of govt in building roads and providing fuel subsidies.
The equation of their greedy plan to govt subsidizing agriculture also does not hold bcs these people are not asking for subsidies. They are demanding that Nigerians bear the full economic responsibilities that should belong to the cattle owners or face the consequences in more massacres by their terrorist army.
Have you read Miyetti Allah outline its plans to build ranches anywhere? No.
It has to be other Nigerians from the South and the Middle Belt, who they are trying to cow into becoming a subservient and conquered people, who should provide land for the ranches and the means to maintain them. The millionaire Fulani cattle owners and their ethnic kin will simply step in and assume ownership.
Having gained such strategic footholds through the terror of merciless bloodletting, eliminatingcommunities, men, women and children, and occupying their land, terrorism reinforced through political manipulations, who knows what the future holds for those who have their cattle colonies as neighbors?
Nigerians are seeing the handwriting on the wall and are saying
NO TO FULANI CATTLE COLONIES
Build your ranches in the North where you have your ethnic origin, and build them by yourself, as responsible business people. If the fed govt helps you, good. Transport the cattle to the South in trucks and avoid what you like to claim are people blocking cattle routes which you treat as your property on land that is not yours.Reasonable. Everyone wins.
Why is it proving so hard for these people to absorb that simple fact?
Stop trying to hold the rest of us to ransom through a culture of shedding rivers of blood.
Thanks
toyin
On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 at 15:10, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunlakaiye@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dear Ayo,
Being a Professor of Philosophy, you should not have problem in understanding what I wrote if you have really read through and not just glossed over it. The difference between you and us (Sali & Corni as you expressed it) is that we do not see the killings in Nigeria as a tragedy of others but tragedy of the entire nation (of all of us). We are more interested in removing cause(s) of killings and not just lamenting over the effects of killings. When a tree is bearing forth bad fruits, you don't rectify that abnormality by pruning the stems of the tree. Our wise ancestors in Africa normally used to uproot the tree and plant new ones. Not attending a funeral ceremony does not imply that I don't mourn the dead but in the Nigerian parlance, a bourgeois professor of philosophy who attends a funeral ceremony, to shed two drops of tears only to turn around and drink two bottles of wines at the expense of the bereaved, thinks he/she is a good mourner of the dead.
My dear Ayo, you asserted that 'many communities of our time have been raised to the ground, thousand maimed and dismembered, quartered as civilized Europeans used to quarter recalcitrant blacks on the plantation, and the enemy is Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju?' After reading this, I checked the forum's archive to see what you wrote as recent as 9 July 2018 while engaging Professor Jibrin Ibrahim. Here is what I found, "Our brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers, uncles and nephews, nieces and nephews are being butchered like Ileya Rams, without the proper rituals of Halal, yet the best you guys can do is to fabricate il-logicalities." Do you see the similarities in what you wrote before and now, except that you have now substituted 'the best you guys can do is to fabricate il-logicalities' with a rhetoric question, 'the enemy is Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju? I hereby refer you to my response the same day instead of recanting the same again. Sincerely yours, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju is not the enemy but the ethnic-fascism that he preaches consistently against Fulani people of Nigeria as a whole and regardless of their individual profession, is the enemy. Have you read the British House of Lords' debates on Nigeria posted on this forum by Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju? Could you not see that the House of Lords debaters were only asking what assessment Her Majesty's Government has made of continuing violence between communities and armed groups in Nigeria? Are you not induced to ask from where Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju got his fascist headline captioned : UK Parliament Discussion on Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria? It takes emotional intelligence to love ones own countrymen/women as one-self. My appeal to Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju is to be emotionally intelligent and to stop feeding on fascism as his buffet.
For reasons best known to you, you introduced the late Babs Fafunwa into the discussion and chided him for his struggle to spread basic primary education among herdsmen's children. Regrettably, you implied that his effort was motivated by his belief in Muslim religion. Had his effort to educate the ALMAJIRI not been sabotaged, perhaps, most Northerners today would have known that their Governors collect revenue allocations from the Federal government quarterly and it is not Allah that brings money as their Governors tell them. As Minister of Education, late Babs Fafunwa wrote about 'Learning and Teaching in our Mother Tongue.' Therein, he asserted, "The colonial education robbed the Nigerian child of his creativity, inventiveness and originality. Since the Nigerian child is forced to think in English, other than in Hausa, Igbo, Yoruba and other local languages, the child finds it hard to assimilate instructions easily and build manual dexterity effectively." Looking around, I discover that every country that uses its mother tongue in education in Europe is able not only to manage their internal natural resources, but imported ones. Thus, Greece, Portugal, Spain, Italy, France etc., that have no single litre of crude oil in their soil have functioning crude oil refineries whereas, Nigeria is a major exporter of crude oil, she depends on imported fuel for her domestic needs since the local refineries have been administered to coma by the overeducated English speaking Nigerians. The locally refined crude oil by Urhobo, Ijaw, and Istjekiri speaking people are declared illicit by the English speaking Nigerian officials. Whereas the oral and written English English of the educated Nigerians can crack stones, cause thunder to roar and lightening to flash, it cannot generate and distribute electricity as it has been demonstrated in Nigeria. In comparison with Finland, Norway, Denmark, Iceland, Portugal, Spain, Greece, Italy etc., where they use their indigenous languages for education, they generate and distribute constant electricity to their citizens. So, Babs Fafunwa was not only right when he sought to inject questioning mind into the ALMAJIRI through education, but also when he queried the benefit of English language to Nigerians as a means of acquiring useful knowledge in science and technology.
You charged me for shifting focus on UK. You are wrong. UK Lords were debating the killings in Plateau and I think they should debate how developmental funds stolen by Nigerian officials and politicians and kept in British Banks could be repatriated to Nigeria, to build schools, roads, hospitals etc so that Nigeria can enter the club of developed nations. When the evil Samaritans in the UK's House of Lords claimed that about 200 people were killed and 50 villages destroyed in Plateau, the Plateau State Commissioner of Police, Undie Adie, said that a search revealed that 86 people were killed, six injured and 50 houses razed, according to Guardian Weekly, Vol. 199, No.4, 29 June-July5, 2018. Nigerians don't need charity, they want justice which, everybody knows, brings peace and progress.
Dear Ayo, the philosopher, you wondered if we realized what would have happened if the 'wealthy' cattle owners themselves had invested in cattle ranching in Nigeria. Cattle owners are illiterates and do not know what is ranching. You can equally wonder about what would have happened if crop farmers have invested in mechanized agriculture. If the ministry of agriculture now wakes up to its responsibility by willing to subsidize livestock farming as it is done in all the Western world from where we copied our system of Government, why should som ethnic fascists be protesting. The same ethnic fascists are enjoying fuel subsidies to run their private vehicles and drive on roads constructed and highly subsidized with our collective patrimony. We know the economic advantage of livestock farming through ranching which is why we support ranching in any state of Nigeria where cattle breeders have settled permanently. People like you are opposed to the idea of ranching in Southern Nigeria because as you put it, you cannot travel to Sokoto to 'grow Goro' the assumption I disproved in my response to you on 9 July 2018.
S. Kadiri
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Ämne: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UK Parliament June 2018 Discussion on Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria and Highlights of DebateGood day all,
At times I wonder what the two elders, Alagbas Sali and Corni are about. Yoruba saying, eni to kan lo mo, is a serious admonition not to take the tragedies of others lightly. Imagine if at the height of Ife-Modakeke strife, anyone were to be trifling with the seriousness of the carnage that was unfolding in the ancient city.
One of the problems I have had with western education and scholarship is its capacity to fake objectivity, engage in pedantic hairsplitting and reckless obfuscation. Many communities in Nigeria of our time have been razed to the ground, thousands maimed and dismembered, quartered as civilized Europeans used to quarter recalcitrant blacks on the plantation, and the enemy is Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju?
How is it possible to not take sides with the poor? The time our own Professor Babs Fafunwa suddenly discovered his Muslim name to get a seat at the Federal Executive Council and jump on the bandwagon of Almajiri Education, some of us wondered what happened to our illustrious professor to turn him into an emissary of backwardness. Where in the world do teachers follow itinerant herders?
Baba Sali shifted focus on UK. Yes UK deserve the fire and fury directed at it, because most of the problems around the world originated from 10 Downing Street. But why is it difficult for the two Babas, Corni and Sali, to realize that if only the wealthy cattle owners would minimize their inhumanity and greed, invest (have invested) properly in cattle ranching, things will never have degenerated to this level. It is not late, if the pig-headed government of Nigeria will do the proper thing and hold business people accountable - socially, economically, environmentally, and ethically - by compelling them to modernize their businesses or face bankruptcy.
Can some people borrow a leaf from Baba Aare Afe Babalola? Would any of these people be buried with their monies when the kick the bucket? Why is it that (apologies to Faseun) "when pounded yam reaches Faseun's hand, it becomes stone" (iyan d'owo, Faseun o d'okuta)? Why is it such a challenge to see that there is no rocket/nuclear science issue here that other societies have not confronted? Why do we leave leprosy and cure acne - (a fi ete sile ma a pa lapalapa)? Have we all now combined Trumpism with our epistemic deficit?
Babas Sali and Corni, have you done the math of the waste when people follow the cattle from Sokoto to Lagos: innards, hoofs, bones, hide and skin, milk, teeth. These are all valuable parts of the cattle that are wasted - except the two Babas cannot cure themselves from pomo.
On the human side, one cannot begin to even regard this type of occupation in economic, employment terms. For the man-hours devoted to raising a (one -1) wandering and foraging sixth century cow, a modern process will raise probably 200 cows. And the herder would be educated, with health, life, property, etc insurances.
When Nigeria went to Argentina to buy grass, did the persons who went for the estacode not see proper cattle in proper environment? In Africa, there are proper examples of animal husbandry. The entire population of Botswana is less that the heads of cattle in that country. Does anyone hear about herders invading hospital operation rooms or airporr runways with cattle?
O t'oju su mi o, Your Worship, Ojogbon Agba Falola.
By the way, congratulations to Dokita Adeshina; commendations to Ojogbon Matiu and speedy recovery to Ojogbon Payos.
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On Wednesday, 25 July 2018, 05:42:03 GMT-4, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:
“In their hearts is a disease, and Allah increaseth their disease. A painful doom is theirs because they lie.”
Many thanks Baba Kadiri for your usual discernment by which, once again ( timely intervention) you have disembowelled Toyin Adepoju's wilful, disparaging distortions, by which he hopes to lead the gullible astray. He is burning with his cause, still has his axe to grind and this time, not fearing God, he has had the temerity to attribute to the House of Lords, opinions and words that they never said or held all in his quest to vanquish his “armed Fulani herdsmen”, what he refers to as right-wing Fulani Supremacy and as if that is not sinful enough verbal terror from him, still on the crusade he wants to vilify one of Nigeria's greatest heroes, if not the greatest : Shaykh Usman Dan Fodio of blessed memory - and May Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala be pleased with him...
“Took an un-trodden path once, where the swift don't win the race
It goes to the worthy, who can divide the word of truth
Took a stranger to teach me, to look into justice's beautiful face
And see an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth “ ( I and I)I'm listening to this just now : The Wolf that Lives in Lindsey
On Tuesday, 24 July 2018 21:47:12 UTC+2, ogunlakaiye wrote:As Malcolm X rightly observed, the House Negro was more cruel to the field Negro than the slave master did. Their Lordships in the British House of Lords never said on 28 June 2018, that the debate was about Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria. The debate led by Lord Alton of Liverpool was 'To ask Her Majesty's Government what assessment they have made of the continuing violence between Communities and armed groups in Nigeria. Consumers of lies, fictions and propaganda have seen right wing, left wing and centre wing Fulani terrorists all over Nigeria, where their Lords and Baronesses have seen violence between communities and armed groups. As if their Lords and Baronesses overdosed Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju's Gari with sugar, he was excited in reading the following from honourable members of the House of Lords : However, in the last two or three years, they have adopted a new policy - attacking Christian villages, killing local people, destroying homes, driving villagers off their lands and settling in their place. Now there has been this recent escalation of attacks on Christian villages by the Fulani with, ..... over 200 civilians killed in Plateau State. Lord Alton of Liverpool (CB) who initiated the debate said, "More than 200 people were reported to have died in co-ordinated attacks on around 50 communities in Plateau State in Barkin Ladi." Is it not reckless and irresponsible to assert that Christian Villagers have been driven out of their lands and Fulani herdsmen have settled in their place, without giving the names of Christan villages so occupied by force? Their Lords and Baronesses were not in Plateau to witness the violence that occurred there between Thursday, 21 June 2018, and Sunday, 24 June 2018. The report they relied on to make their reckless statements was compiled by professional charity organisations whose source of living depends on catastrophes. The charity organisations, in most cases, are like casket sellers lamenting over too many people dying while making money from selling caskets. The Barkin Ladi incident was reported in the Guardian Weekly, Volume 199, No. 4, issue of 29 June to 5 July 2018. On page 3, Guardian weekly reported that 86 people have been killed in attacks by suspected nomadic herders against farming communities to restive central Nigeria, quoting the Police spokesman in Jos. Guardian Weekly stated further that last Sunday's (24 June 2018) discovery in the Barkin Ladi area of Plateau State came after days of violence apparently sparked by an attack by ethnic Berom farmers on Fulani herders last Thursday, 21 June 2018. There should be no conflict between livestock and crop farmers in Plateau, since the State was among the first to approve cattle ranching. However, the Berom majority are against the establishment of cattle ranches in Plateau State and they took the law into their hands by attacking the Fulani in their midst in Barkin Ladi. Whether we are talking about 200 or 86 dead in the Barkin Ladi fracas, the casualties must have been a mixture of Berom and Fulani. This must be very difficult to understand for people for which the difference between fact and fiction, truth and false, do not exist.
While we may applaud their Lords and Baronesses of the British led Commonwealth of Nations for pretending to love Nigerians more than the Federal Government of Nigeria led by Buhari, Nigerians would have appreciated if the House of Lords' debaters have asked Her Majesty's government what immediate modernisation of crops and livestock farming it is taking in Nigeria. Cows were not original animals in Britain and, in fact, they were colonial loot from countries of Africa including Nigeria. Today, they are British cows, bred and organised into livestocks ranching. Cattle breeders in Britain do not to roam at random across the land to look for forage for their cattle. If the wealth has been common as we have been told, livestock farming in Nigeria would have developed to the same level as it is in Britain since Britain ruled Nigeria as a colony. During the World War II, Harold Macmillan reminded us in his book, The Blast of War, thus, "In minerals generally, our customers were the Ministries of Supply and Aircraft Production. They needed bauxite, wolfram, tin, graphite, copper, zink, mica, manganese, chrome, iron ore and industrial diamonds, and the suppliers were scattered through the Gold Coast, Sierra Leone, Nigeria, Northern Rhodesia, Ceylon, British Guiana and Cyprus." Pertaining to Nigeria, Harold Macmillan wrote, "The Japanese conquest of Malaya had serious repercussions on the supply of tin. It became vital to increase the output of the Nigerian mines by every possible means (p.168, THE BLAST OF THE WAR, By HAROLD MACMILLAN, British Prime Minister, 1957-1963)." For those who are not aware, Jos, in Plateau State of Nigeria was the only source of tin which Britain depended upon to produce her Aircraft during and even after the war. Britain mined Tin in Jos to produce Aircraft without paying a dime and had Britain paid the people of Plateau what they were entitled to for the extracted Tins Berom and Fulani communities in Plateau State will still not be engaged in primitive livestock and crops farming in the 21st century.
The British Lords and Baronesses cannot inflict harm on us and turn around to lament over our pains and sufferings. The amount of money stolen and stashed in the banks of her Majesty's England by Nigerian officials and politicians, if released to Nigeria, would produce the beauty of England in Nigeria three folds. Let me remind their Lords and Baronesses of Britain that the former Governor of Plateau State, Joshua Chibi Dariye, was arrested in his Marriot Hotel room in London, on 2 September 2004, by the Metropolitan Police, for money laundering. A total sum of 2 million,961 thousand, 5 hundred and 60 pounds sterling was seized from Dariye's 13 different Bank Accounts in London. He was granted bail pending trial and his passport was impounded while he was ordered not to travel outside London. Dariye jumped bail and escaped to Nigeria to resume duty as Governor of Plateau State. On Thursday, 27 September 2007, the Acting British High Commissioner In Nigeria, Mr James Tansley handed over a cheque of N29.3 million to the Federal government, through the then Solicitor General of the Federation, Professor Ignatius Ayu, as the amount seized from Joshua Dariye in 2004. The naira equivalent of the pounds sterling seized from Dariye in London in 2004 was 770 million, 56 thousand naira. When voices were raised as to how N770. 056 million could suddenly become N29.3 million, the immediate past British High Commissioner in Nigeria at that time, Mr. Richard Cozney said that money which source cannot be clearly established would be confiscated in Britain but the law does not say it should be returned to Nigeria. This was reported in online Nigerian Vanguard, Tribune, Daily Trust and The Nation of Friday, 28 September 2007. I followed the case and I am yet to know that the money stolen from the treasury of Plateau people and kept in British banks have been returned to the impoverished people of that State. The latest devise through which her Majesty's England can accept and keep stolen money from Nigeria is the law of Unexplained Wealth Oders (UWOs) that enables the UK government to query unexplained wealth and seize assets whose funding source cannot be explained. The impoverished Fulani, Berom and other Nigerians would stop hacking one another to death when hundreds of billions of pounds sterling stolen and stashed in British Banks by Nigerian officials and politicians are repatriated to Nigeria for developmental purpose. UK Barons and Lords must stop shedding crocodile tears and help Nigeria to get back her stolen assets stocked in Britain.
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Ämne: USA Africa Dialogue Series - UK Parliament June 2018 Discussion on Right Wing Fulani Terrorism in Nigeria and Highlights of Debate--
Highlights of discussion-
' Armed with sophisticated weaponry, including AK47s and, in at least one case, a rocket launcher and rocket-propelled grenades, the Fulani militia have murdered more men, women and children in 2015, 2016 and 2017 than even Boko Haram, destroying, overrunning and seizing property and land, and displacing tens of thousands of people. This is organised and systematic. We must ask where this group of nomadic herdsmen is getting such sophisticated weaponry from.
It has overrun and seized property and land, and displaced tens of thousands of people. In 2017, herder militia claimed 808 lives in 53 villages in southern Kaduna alone, burning down over 1,400 houses. As pointed out by the noble Baroness, Lady Berridge, during most of these well-planned attacks, herders’ cattle were nowhere in sight. Over 180,000 people in Benue state are currently living in IDP camps because the herder militia violence has displaced them. More than 500,000 displaced people are living in temporary accommodation, and over 80,000 school-age children are living in IDP camps with no access to education.
In Nigeria, attacks are now occurring with such frequency, organisation and asymmetry, as mentioned by the noble Lord, Lord Alton, that references to “farmer-herder clashes” are wholly inadequate.
Given the escalation, frequency, organisation and asymmetry of Fulani attacks, does the Minister believe that the references to “farmer-herder clashes” still suffice? In the face of the reports of violence collected by impartial human rights groups, there is no place here for, as it were, moral equivalence; nor is it sufficient for the Government merely to urge all sides to seek dialogue and avoid violence.
It is surely too simplistic to label these deaths as driven solely by desertification and competition for resources. While there have been attacks by Fulani herdsmen on Muslim farmers in Zamfara state, these are overwhelmingly outnumbered by attacks on Christians. Religious polarisation and extremism have helped to escalate violence in Nigeria to a greater degree than in other countries in the region. An existing conflict such as this and a strong ethno-religious identity has bought Fulani groups into wider jihadi movements, such as the largely Fulani terrorist group, FLM, which has joined with Islamic State.
Attacks continue unabated, with seemingly little government action. This has entrenched impunity. Apart from verbal condemnations, there has been no action to end the violence. No attacker has been brought to justice. With perpetrators emboldened, attacks by herder militia have now spread to southern Nigeria. No longer able to rely on the Government for protection or justice, communities are seeing a growth in vigilantism and retaliatory justice. The growth in murders of villagers and community leaders in Benue has also led to calls for President Buhari to consider his position, and for the reassessment of security arrangements as a matter of urgency.
...more recently... there has been a very disturbing change in the behaviour of the Fulani herdsmen. Since time immemorial, they have driven their huge herds of cattle through other people’s lands, causing tensions and some violence, but traditionally, they have moved on. However, in the last two to three years they have adopted a new policy: attacking Christian villages, killing local people, destroying homes, driving villagers off their lands and settling in their place. Now there has been this recent escalation of attacks on Christian villages by the Fulani, with, as other noble Lords have highlighted, over 200 civilians killed in Plateau state'
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