Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Today's Quote

Very excellent response. I will take up later.

Samuel

Samuel Zalanga, Ph.D.

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:00 PM 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Republicanism is secular and not sacred to be worshipped. 

Cheikh taught us to be careful not to dismiss any tradition just because it was appropriated by Europe once upon a time. 

Africans had republics and empires, universities and the written word about universal human rights long before Europe. 

It is ironic that some educated Africans now think that Africa is not ripe for democracy as if we are some kind of bananas, said Babu. 

Europe has no franchise over republicanism or democracy. Africa has longstanding indigenous knowledge and praxis in democratic republicanism. 

If you disagree then you must have been miseducated about this. Walter Rodney grounded with his brothers in Janaica that African kingdoms covered a minority of the map while the vast majority lived in direct democracies. 

As Sam inferred, even the Greeks were far from being democratic, their women and the enslaved were not citizens and their monarchs were war mongers. Republicanism was not one of their preferred lenses.

Biko

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 8:17 PM, Ibrahim Abdullah

<ibdullah@gmail.com> wrote:

So Shiekh Anta cannot be Eurocentric? He is guilty of same! Or do you worship in his temple? 

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On 27 Feb 2019, at 00:27, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Who told you that republicabisn is a European lense? See Diop, Barbarism or Civilization?

Bikk

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 6:25 PM, Ibrahim Abdullah

<ibdullah@gmail.com> wrote:

Radical republicanism indigenous to Africa? What was it's material base? Crude communalism? That cannot be republicanism. This idea of wanting to write the African/Igbo past(s) through European lenses—history by analogy—is as obscurantist as it is colonial. 

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On 26 Feb 2019, at 23:01, 'Biko Agozino' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:

What the Igbo have in common with most Nigerians is the right to live in a democracy where all heads are equal despite the articulation, disarticulation and rearticulation of ethnic-gender-class relations in societies structured in dominance. 

When the genocidists come for the Igbo, they do not spare the elites nor the nkiti people. And when the Oha is determined to pursue education as an unqualified common good, the child of the female barrow pusher may whoop the behind of the children of corrupt millionaires. 

Zalenga suggests wrongly that class explains every outcome but such crude economic determinism has been transcended by the Cultural Studies o f Stuart Hall. 

Uncle Sam quoted Plato and Aristotle as authorities on democracy but they were vehemently opposed to what they called mob rule and preferred the philosopher king and the aristicracy, respectively. The Igbo proudly proclaim that they know no king. 

Cite Azikiwe, Achebe, Ngugi, Soyinka, and Anikpo on this radical republicanism that is indigenous to Africa.

Biko

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 3:08 PM, Chidi Anthony Opara, FIIM

<chidi.opara@gmail.com> wrote:

Samuel,
Anyone fighting evil should be encouraged regardless of the motive.

CAO.

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