Wednesday, March 20, 2019

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Christianity in Nigeria's Igboland : Paradox of Creativity and Destruction: Creatively Transformative Effects of Christianity in Igbo Culture: A Debate

The other point to note is that some religious systems encourage self-flagellation in order to

justify their existence and claim superiority. The life of a  convert becomes a great unending apology,  and self hate takes over.


The self righteousness of the conquistadores and the tragic outcomes are well

 known to historians.




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From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Christianity in Nigeria's Igboland : Paradox of Creativity and Destruction: Creatively Transformative Effects of Christianity in Igbo Culture: A Debate
 
enlighten me oga Afolayan as to the contradictions.

the point being made by the poster is that Christianity did a lot to eliminate barbarisms evident in classical Igbo cosmologies even though it also did bad in Igboland and has been barbaric itsef in its own history  

On Wed, 20 Mar 2019 at 04:03, 'Michael Afolayan' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I'm confused! The conclusions consistently contradict their own premises. Am I missing something? Help me out here, Oluwatoyin.
Michael





On Tuesday, March 19, 2019, 12:20:53 PM GMT+1, Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju <toyin.adepoju@gmail.com> wrote:



                       Christianity in Nigeria's Igboland

                       Paradox of Creativity and Destruction

   Creatively Transformative Effects of Christianity in Igbo Culture
                                                                                                                   A Debate

                   Titled and Compiled 
                                 by           
                   Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju
                             Compcros
      Comparative Cognitive Processes and Systems 






                                 


Ike Chi-ukwu Eluigwe                                                                
17 hrs · 

If you are an Igbo twin, and you hate Christianity, you are a 'bornfool'! Christianity would have allowed you to be thrown into the evil forest of your village.

If your family was ohu (slave), and you hate Christianity, you are very 'iberibed'! Christianity would have allowed you to be buried alive as you escort a titled man to the other world.

If you cut your upper teeth first, and you hate Christianity, you a first-class efulefu! Christianity would have allowed you to be dumped in the evil forest of your village or sold to Aro slave dealers.

If you have children who are not up to two years apart, and you hate Christianity, you are a cow head! Christianity would have allowed your younger child to be sold to Aro slave dealers.

If you did not walk before three years, and you hate Christianity, ibu okpo! Christianity would have allowed your people destroy you.

If you suffer from diabetes, liver and/or kidney problems... and you hate Christianity, you are not just efulefu, you are 'efoolefool' (a-fool-a-fool). Christianity would have allowed you be a candidate for dumping in the evil forest at death.

If you as a woman started seeing your period too early, and you hate Christianity, you are an unfortunate aturu. Christianity would have allowed you to be sold to Aro slave dealers.

Before you hate Christianity, make sure this same Christianity is not the reason why you are alive and free today, lest Karma remembers your house address. Anyone trying to make you believe that Christianity came with no good might just be a former Aro slave dealer or a former priest in charge of your village evil forest, please, run from such 😎😎😎

Comments
  • Jimmy Abia
    Jimmy Abia Igbo never killed twins. No records of such. It only happened in some areas of Calabar province
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    • Ike Chi-ukwu Eluigwe My dear, don't say this loud! The records are everywhere!! I used to think so before, now I know better; even my people of Abia state did.
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    • Godwin Uche Ezeugwu
      Godwin Uche Ezeugwu Powerful liar. Why did u want to become Laid Mohammed?
    • Loveday Chimenka Ogbonna
      Loveday Chimenka Ogbonna Jimmy Abia, Igbos killed twins, my grandfather saved one twin and their mother already thrown into the evil forest in those days. Christianity is a blessing
    • Igidikwu Abbor Nando
      Igidikwu Abbor Nando You're a BIG LIAR, Loveday Chimenka Ogbonna! The IGBO name for twins is EJIMA. CHRISTIANITY HAS THE WORST LIE ON IGBOS!
    • Edwin Abba
      Edwin Abba Igbo killed twins!!! My uncles - two boys were killed because they were born twins. Now I have twins, my sister has twins, my uncle had twins! What do you think would have been happening in my lineage if the killing of twins was not abolished! My brother, Igbos killed twins very much.
    • Isiodu Ụna Kelechi R.
      Isiodu Ụna Kelechi R. My grandmother was rescued ... a survivor. She never spoke about it but to say only that it happened. 

      The classics written by Ndi Igbo all allude to it. Uchendu's classic for instance... The government anthropologists all spoke/reported about it. Alb
      inism isn't covered even in your list. So thanks, Ike Chi-ukwu for your post. 

      That said ... it wasn't across all of Igboland ... as with all customs, not everything is homogeneous to all of the land.
    • Igidikwu Abbor Nando
      Igidikwu Abbor Nando Edwin Abba, are you Igbo? Where is this your uncle living and we 'll get to him as soon as possible to swear on this?
    • Hrh Calistus Obichi Igwe
    • Igidikwu Abbor Nando
      Igidikwu Abbor Nando Isiodu Na Kelechi R, where is this your Grand Mother from? Is she an Effik cross breed Igbo or Igbo bu Igbo?!
    • Ike Chi-ukwu Eluigwe KC, you are right, nothing was universal. My people hardly know what is osu; but it would be ridiculous to come out to claim Igbo had no osu.
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    • Edwin Abba

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