Your mea culpa is admirable but it would not interrupt the movement for reparations from institutions that benefited hugely- even when undermined - at this historic moment.
Thanks a lot for your timely contribution to that movement.
GE
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On Jun 30, 2020, at 3:50 PM, 'Michael Afolayan' via USA Africa Dialogue Series <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com> wrote:
I am an "Omo Ode"; missiles are my toys (a polite way of saying, bring it on, Gloria).Mr. Barclays, Mr. Yale, Fr. Newton, etc., are not my folks. I'll let their own people deal with them. I am at liberty to talk senses to the skulls of my people, am I not? Yep, the last I heard, it was not a "Not-for-profit" NGO business for those Yoruba Obas either. They better pay - serious restitution money I'm talking about here, because they sold their folks to the Barclayses, the Yales, and the Newtons. Some of us are ashamed of their deeds and regardless of what their apologists say about them, we still hold them equally accountable; after all, if they did not create the cracks on their walls, those lizards could not crawl in and haul their folks away.Just my protest. My in-laws are a part of the culprits.MOA===--On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 1:31:17 PM EDT, Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@ccsu.edu> wrote:Oh my! A missile is more effective than a rock-and a boomerang could always inflict the sender.
So children of Obas should pay for the hugeprofits made by Mr. Alexander Barclays, Mr Yale,and the "gracefully amazing" Right Reverend Father John Newton and his likes.Well I would agree with you if you can establish the following:
1. That the Obas placed ads in Europe advertising for "buyers."
2. That the Obas owned the pickup ships thatplied the Atlantic.
3. That the Obas were aware of the enormity of the activities and systematic, sustained forced labor and psychological terror that ensued on the other side of the Atlantic.
4. That the Obas gained resources and profits commensurate with that of the European traffickers.
5. That inter generational wealth transfer has accrued in the African regions thus involved, at the scale of the recipient countries.
6. That all the Obas consented to this activity without force, intimidation, and divide and rulestrategies being applied and that no Obaresisted the traffickers.
Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU
africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali
Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association
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At the risk of getting rocks thrown in my direction, I still think those who should pay the bulk of the reparation should be children of Yoruba Obas along the Atlantic Coast, who sold their folks to the Whiteman out of their wanton greed and self hate!
MOA
--On Tuesday, June 30, 2020, 9:14:54 AM EDT, OLAYINKA AGBETUYI <yagbetuyi@hotmail.com> wrote:
--OU.
You struck the nail right on the head.
Some smart Alec musician in 2004 once asked me a similar question on a flight from the US to London.
I said to him the communities where slaves were taken should be beneficiaries of reparations.
If we cannot deny children their inheritance simply because the person who worked for the wealth is no longer here we cannot deny liabilities for the source of the wealth if the wealth is fraudulently acquired.
This is why there is contemporary money laundering laws.
If slave reparations are unrecoverable then the Abacha loot should be unrecoverable and his children should have the right to keep the loot since they stole no money. Never mind that the loot originally belonged to other people whose name is not Abacha.
OAA
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One possible reason is inheritance. People do inherit the assets and liabilities of their forefathers.--
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