The questions I see as relevant to examining the moral issue at play are as follows:
-- 1.What is the relationship between the characters? Why is the man semi dressed?Why did the girl and the men gain power over the person being embarrassed?
2.Who are all these people?Are they what the video tells us they are?
3.What are their various motivations?
4.Why is the man able to regain his composure to a point even in the midst of that terrible situation?
Most responses assume the guilt of the man being embarrassed.Some assume the guilt of the women and the men making the video.I dont see anything definite enough emerging from this scenario to justify any of these positions.
The video needs to be carefully investigated for us to to make informed conclusions.
Thanks
Toyin
On 23 July 2010 22:02, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com> wrote:
Toyin my brother:
How do you stage a Professor's naked dick inside the bedroom of a female student in Ekpoma? If I don't stop you in your track quick quick, by this evening you will quietly sneak in Baudrillard and begin to talk of simulacrum. I know you, my brother.
Well, if you gyrate in that direction as I suspect you inevitable will, remember that we have an explanation for Baudrillard and his simulacrum in Pidgin hermeneutics: we call it korokoro! I wonder why you are disavowing the theory of korokoro vision in this video right before your eyes?
Moses: I say a big AMEN to your wish that our youth should train those cameras on the randy dicks of our corrupt and worthless rulers in Abuja and the state capitals. Imagine how happy one would have been today if this thing had happened to a Governor, a Federal Rep, a Senator or a Minister!Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
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Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 21:49Pius,
I spent decades in Benin so my pidgin is very good.You are a scholar of the arts.You know that scenarios can be staged.Have you taught in a Nigerian university ? I have and I know from personal experience that students can do almost anything. You need to be very careful with them.Take nothing for granted.Could the poor man not have been lured there for any reason and forced to strip under threats in the name of extortion?In my case,referring to my own experience what would have happened if I had taken up on her implied offer the girl who asked me to look at her breasts while demanding to know her marks and came to see me during the holidays asking for the same information? A girl who would come late to lectures and display herself as she walked majestically into class?Lets assume I followed her to her room and met a set up? Lets assume that at the moment of action the trap was sprung. .One could be caught helpless, psychologically disoriented, and open to a broad range of manipulation. May such an evil scenario not befall us.Or the story I heard of the student who instead of answering an exam question proceeded to describe in her exam paper what she could do to the vital organs of the male lecturer if given the opportunity?Or the beautiful female student who bit my arm in an exam hall because I refused to agree to her begging to be let off the hook when I caught her cheating The option of exchanging sex for a promise not to report her was one possibility. If that option had been pursued both the lecturer and student would have been guilty but who would be the oppressor there?Or the students who used to come to my house to beg me not report that I found them cheating in exams? Or those who would visit me in my house to appeal to me to pass them after they had written the exams?Imagine all the compromising possibilities emerging from my finding unwanted female visitors on my doorstep.If I narrate the full range of possibil ities from real life scenarios you will get tired.I expect lectures take advantage of students.I expect lecturers sleep with students they are teaching,both of which scenarios I consider wrong.It is difficult to convince me,however,that sleeping with an adult student one is not teaching,in a concensual scenario, is necessarily wrong although it could lead to complications. To claim total abstinence on that front,however, to me,is unrealistic and possibly hypocritica l.Now,lets look at another scenario.This man might have been offered sex and went there to claim it. Perhaps in relation to what was offered the girl was trying to demand more than he was ready to provide-marks, money etc and her accomplices set him up to extort him.This scenario can be read in various ways indicating that we should not take anything we see in the video at face value.Personally I have difficulty being excited about this video,perhaps because I have seen a worse situation. At the University of Benin a group of students led by the student union president kidnapped a lecturer and tried him in a court they set up,a rowdy affair that put the whole university in a frenzy.The lecturer was accused of serial victimisat ion of female students. The lecturer was powerless as the students were a desperate looking mob.They could have done anything to the man if they wanted to and in fear of his life he might have complied. Lets assume they made a video of that will all kinds of allegations plus extortion of money in return for his life or health of limb.As it is we would be seeing it only from the students perspect ive and not hear from the lecturer.As it is,the entire scenario and the allegations against the lecturer were never properly investigated as far as I know.ASUU,the academic union, and the vice-chancellor, who was perceived as not being agile about the investigations, fell out on this issue,if I remember well the eventual outcome.In almost any setting where male and female adults congregate in terms of physical contact sex is part of the equation and this creates various complication s of possibility and perspective. We need to be particularly careful when interpreting sexual scenarios. Women have been known to frame men for rape after consensual sex and destroy the poor man's career.I prefer to get to the bottom of this story rather than assuming things on face value.thankstoyinOn 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
How many times I call you? Now that you have seen the video, I must ask: what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before you believe?
Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male students grumbling loudly about wetin lecturers don take im eye see, and you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can take a position.
Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty. The students who turn the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear, unambiguous, and strong terms.
Pius
--- On Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com>
Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum ] Re: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups. com, "bimbola adelakun" <adunnibabe@yahoo. com>
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Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 20:24
I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage of the girl? Or the girl wanted to take advantage of him?Students in Nigerian universitie s also offer themselves to lecturers apart from lecturers preying on them.For more options, visit this group at http://groups. google.com/ group/naijaintel lects?hl= en.We do not have adequate evidence to decipher what actually happened.thankstoyinOn 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
Bimbola's Facebook account is herebut you might need a Facebook account to watch it.
http://www.facebook .com/Adunnibabe? ref=search
thankstoyinOn 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@ googlemail. com> wrote:
you can watch it on bimbola adelakun's facebook account.thanks Bimbola.We really appreciate this provision of information.toyinOn 23 July 2010 14:10, <akinoakanji@ yahoo.com> wrote:
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Here is the link again:
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_ embedded
--- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
To: usaafricadialogue@ googlegroups. com, naijaintellects@ googlegroups. com
Cc: "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@ yahoogroups. com>, "naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com" <naijapolitics@ yahoogroups. com>, "nigerianworldforum" <NIgerianWorldForum@ yahoogroups. com>, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyinkaSociety@ yahoogroups. com>, "naijaobserver@ yahoogroups. com" <naijaobserver@ yahoogroups. com>, "nai" <naijaintellects@ googlegroups. com>, "Nidoa" <nidoa@yahoogroups. com>
Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29
Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to? Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it quickly.
http://www.youtube. com/watch? v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_ embedded
Pius
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