Friday, July 23, 2010

USA Africa Dialogue Series - [Naijaintellects] Re: NIDOA | | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!

Pius,

I spent decades in Benin so my pidgin is very good.

You are a scholar of the arts.You know that scenarios can be staged.Have
you taught in a Nigerian university? I have and I know from
personal experience that students can do almost anything.You need to be
very careful with them.Take nothing for granted.

Could the poor man not have been lured there for any reason and forced to
strip under threats in the name of extortion?

In my case,referring to my own experience what would have happened if I had
taken up on her implied offer the girl who asked me to look at her breasts
while demanding to know her marks and came to see me during the holidays
asking for the same information? A girl who would come late to lectures
and display herself as she walked majestically into class?Lets assume
I followed her to her room and met a set up? Lets assume that at the
moment of action the trap was sprung. .One could
be caught helpless,psychologically disoriented,and open to a broad range
of manipulation. May such an evil scenario not befall us.

Or the story I heard of the student who instead of answering an exam
question proceeded to describe in her exam paper what she could do to the
vital organs of the male lecturer if given the opportunity?


Or the beautiful female student who bit my arm in an exam hall because I
refused to agree to her begging to be let off the hook when I caught her
cheating The option of exchanging sex for a promise not to report her was
one possibility.If that option had been pursued both the
lecturer and student would have been guilty but who would be the
oppressor there?


Or the students who used to come to my house to beg me not report that I
found them cheating in exams? Or those who would visit me in my house to
appeal to me to pass them after they had written the exams?


Imagine all the compromising possibilities emerging from my finding unwanted
female visitors on my doorstep.


If I narrate the full range of possibilities from real life scenarios you
will get tired.


I expect lectures take advantage of students.I expect lecturers sleep with
students they are teaching,both of which scenarios I consider wrong.It
is difficult to convince me,however,that sleeping with an adult student one
is not teaching,in a concensual scenario, is necessarily wrong although it
could lead to complications.To claim total abstinence on that
front,however,to me,is unrealistic and possibly hypocritical.

Now,lets look at another scenario.This man might have been offered sex and
went there to claim it. Perhaps in relation to what was offered
the girl was trying to demand more than he was ready to provide-marks,money
etc and her accomplices set him up to extort him.

This scenario can be read in various ways indicating that we should not
take anything we see in the video at face value.

Personally I have difficulty being excited about this
video,perhaps because I have seen a worse situation.At the University of
Benin a group of students led by the student union president kidnapped a
lecturer and tried him in a court they set up,a rowdy affair that put the
whole university in a frenzy.The lecturer
was accused of serial victimisation of female students.The lecturer
was powerless as the students were a desperate looking mob.They could have
done anything to the man if they wanted to and in fear of his life he might
have complied.Lets assume they made a video of that will all kinds of
allegations plus extortion of money in return for his life or health of
limb.As it is we would be seeing it only from the students perspective
and not hear from the lecturer.

As it is,the entire scenario and the allegations against the
lecturer were never properly investigated as far as I know.ASUU,the academic
union, and the vice-chancellor,who was perceived as not being agile about
the investigations,fell out on this issue,if I remember well the eventual
outcome.

In almost any setting where male and female adults congregate in terms of
physical contact sex is part of the equation and this creates
various complications of possibility and perspective. We need to be
particularly careful when interpreting sexual scenarios. Women have been
known to frame men for rape after consensual sex and destroy the poor man's
career.

I prefer to get to the bottom of this story rather
than assuming things on face value.

thanks
toyin


On 23 July 2010 20:41, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
>
> Toyin, Toyin, Toyin,
>
> How many times I call you? Now that you have seen the video, I must ask:
> what has Britain done to your pidgin? The dialogue is clear enough. Maybe
> dialogue is not the word. Roforofo is a better word. The girl and the boys
> outside clearly state their case. Unless you don't believe them or your
> pidgin has gone rusty in the penumbra of Cockney, I don't know what other
> evidence you are looking for. Must you see the Professor's exposed dick
> actually violate the territorial integrity of the lady's womanhood before
> you believe?
>
> Whether he was lured or not lured, a you see a Professor under-dressed in a
> female student's room with your korokoro eyes - with the student saying he
> had slept with her before and still failed her -, you hear one of the male
> students grumbling loudly about wetin lecturers don take im eye see, and
> you are still asking to see the nail holes in Jesus's hands before you can
> take a position.
>
> Toyin, all parties are guilty. The Prof is guilty. The students who turn
> the whole thing to a disgraceful scenario of extorsion and blackmail are
> also guilty. The students and their Prof are us. That is our society. Stop
> asking for more evidence before you denounce this national tragedy in clear,
> unambiguous, and strong terms.
>
> Pius
>
>
> --- On *Fri, 23/7/10, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>
> Subject: [Naijaintellects] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: NIDOA | Re:
> Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on youtube!
> To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com, "bimbola adelakun" <
> adunnibabe@yahoo.com>
> Cc: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com, naijaintellects@googlegroups.com,
> "Pius Adesanmi" <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com>, "Edo-nationality" <
> edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>, "naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com" <
> naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>, "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <
> WoleSoyinkaSociety@yahoogroups.com>, "naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com" <
> naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>, "Nidoa" <nidoa@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 20:24
>
>
> I dont see this video as clarifying what actually took place.The
> circumstances that took the man there are not clear.Is it blackmail,was he
> lured there in innocence or he wanted to take advantage of the girl? Or the
> girl wanted to take advantage of him?
>
> Students in Nigerian universities also offer themselves to lecturers apart
> from lecturers preying on them.
>
> We do not have adequate evidence to decipher what actually happened.
>
> thanks
> toyin
>
>
>
> On 23 July 2010 20:19, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> Bimbola's Facebook account is here
>
> but you might need a Facebook account to watch it.
>
> http://www.facebook.com/Adunnibabe?ref=search
>
> thanks
> toyin
>
> On 23 July 2010 20:18, toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com<http://mc/compose?to=toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>
> > wrote:
>
> you can watch it on bimbola adelakun's facebook account.
> thanks Bimbola.We really appreciate this provision of information.
> toyin
>
>
> On 23 July 2010 14:10, <akinoakanji@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=akinoakanji@yahoo.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Unfortunately Guys,
>
> The video was removed by YouTube Management due " terms of use violation"
>
> We sure would have liked to view this despicable scene.
>
> Akin Akanji
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/22/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi@yahoo.com>
> >* wrote:
>
>
> From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com<http://mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi@yahoo.com>
> >
> Subject: NIDOA | Re: Professor caught pants down in female student's
> room... all on youtube!
>
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>,
> naijaintellects@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=naijaintellects@googlegroups.com>
> Cc: "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>"
> <naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "nigerianworldforum" <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyinkaSociety@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=WoleSoyinkaSociety@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>"
> <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com>>,
> "nai" <naijaintellects@googlegroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=naijaintellects@googlegroups.com>>,
> "Nidoa" <nidoa@yahoogroups.com<http://mc/compose?to=nidoa@yahoogroups.com>
> >
> Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 7:03 PM
>
>
>
> Here is the link again:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded
>
> --- On Fri, 23/7/10, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com>>
> wrote:
>
> From: Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@yahoo.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=piusadesanmi%40yahoo.com>
> >
> Subject: Professor caught pants down in female student's room... all on
> youtube!
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=usaafricadialogue%40googlegroups.com>,
> naijaintellects@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaintellects%40googlegroups.com>
> Cc: "Edo-nationality" <edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=edo-nationality%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> "naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>"
> <naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijapolitics%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> "nigerianworldforum" <NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=NIgerianWorldForum%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> "WoleSoyinkaSociety" <WoleSoyinkaSociety@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=WoleSoyinkaSociety%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> "naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaobserver%40yahoogroups.com>"
> <naijaobserver@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaobserver%40yahoogroups.com>>,
> "nai" <naijaintellects@googlegroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=naijaintellects%40googlegroups.com>>,
> "Nidoa" <nidoa@yahoogroups.com<http://us.mc1120.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=nidoa%40yahoogroups.com>
> >
> Date: Friday, 23 July, 2010, 2:29
>
> Folks, be warned. Do not watch this youtube clip near your kids. Read the
> comments after watching the clip for details... what is Nigeria coming to?
> Professor in a compromised situation. Students turning it into an
> opportunity for extorsion and yahoo-yahoo. Crime jam crime! What kind of
> society is this? Youtube will disable this soon if you don't watch it
> quickly.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jEX2_CZ5Yc&feature=player_embedded
>
> Pius
>
>
>
>
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