From: wassafatti@hotmail.com
To: ijusoc@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - News Release: President Obama On "Ending The War In Irag"
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 10:22:52 +0100
Ihejirika,
There is nothing convincing or new in your disagreements. Obama is pursuing the same aggressive US foreign policies pursued by former US presidents that many Black folks attacked in the past. The health care reform you mentioned domestically sounds good, but you can not deny that if it was not beneficial to the US health care corporate industry profit wise, it would have been discarded. The health care reform you considered to be Obama's achievement is in fact the commercialisation of the health of the poor. The financial rescue of the Wall Street crisis by Obama is a matter of must, because he is in power to ensure the survival of finance capital rather than ending the bankruptcy of the system that is rendering or reducing more and more citizens to destitution. Just look around you and you will see how many people are loosing their jobs, homes and becoming desperados. It does not have to be the 1930s - like economic depression as you stated. I do not think you are in touch with reality when you stated that Obama is ending the war in Iraq and making progress with the war in Afghanistan. I do not believe that you are serious with that assertion. The Obama administration is not ending the war in Iraq, but he is rebranding the war in Iraq and therefore he is not ending the war. The rebranding is the withdrawing of combat troops from Iraq and replacing them with civilian mercenaries dubbed "contractors". Has the name BLACK WATER or rebranded as XE ring any bell to you? There are many of those private mercenary companies making billions of dollars out of the suffering of the Iraqists and Afdhans. Secondly, 50,000 US combat troops will remain in Iraq to facilitate the building of US military bases in that country for the interest of the US oil companies or the DICK CHENEYS for that matter. In Afghanistan, more US soldiers died there under Obama than under Bush and the Afghans are every day complaining of the deliberate massacres of their citizens by US troops and their civilian mercenaries, which Afghan government wanted to remove from their country to no avail. So what are rejoicing here about Obama's success or achievements?
The best thing we need to accept as Black folks is that power in the US is not in the hands of those elected, but in the hands of invisible forces at the helm of corporate America. Who ever is elected in the name of democracy "money can buy", must be ready to serve the interest of the invisible forces. Jimmy Carter was and still a decent and honest person, but as a president, he has to succumbed to the interest of these invisible forces. Obama is facing the same reality as a result, he has to abandon all the promises he made during his election campaigns. Black folks must accept that Obama in power must serve the interest of US imperialism and stop being apologists.
WF
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 00:38:09 -0700
From: ijusoc@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - News Release: President Obama On "Ending The War In Irag"
To: wassafatti@hotmail.com; usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
CC: matador_community_forum@yahoogroups.com; asa-usa@yahoogroups.ccom; NdigboEurope@yahoogroups.com
Wassa Fatti,
I like your outspokenness but I beg to disagree strongly with you. You seem to be ill informed and not objective enough about what Obama Administration stands for and what it has achieved so far in a short period of time in spite of scurrilous activities to undermine its efforts by a few well-funded highly publicized groups hell bent in obfuscating the good thrusts made by the Administration and opposing its agenda.
Nothing could be farther from the truth when you ask about what Obama has done that Bush and Reagan did not do. Where were you, my friend, when Obama Administration brought about a new breath of fresh air in healthcare reform, in Wall Street, in preventing a precipitous descent into a 1930's-like economic depression caused by policies of past administrations and its policy of ending unneeded war in Iraq and making unheralded progress in the war in Afghanistan?
I'm surprised that you blatantly deny that Obama Administration has brought about new and fresh direction. The facts speak for themselves and I urge you to apply more objectivity to your criticism which is wrongly directed. While I'm not an Obama apologist, I feel that the Obama Administration has espoused the freedoms we hold dear in the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution--freedom of speech, of religion, right to petition and to protest, and in Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964--reinforcing disavowal of discrimination based on race, color, national origin, age, etc. It has abhorred the "trickle down" economics of the past yet you wrongly assert that "U.S. Imperialism" is worse under Obama. I may in lighthearted jest ask "What are you smoking?"
To me, your current argument woefully fails to "hold water."
Ihejirika
From: Wassa Fatti <wassafatti@hotmail.com>
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: Mon, August 23, 2010 1:41:01 AM
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - News Release: President Obama On "Ending The War In Irag"
Helen,
No one is blaming US foreign policy on Obama nor do any one demonize Obama. The reason why many Black folks in the US and many young whites voted for Obama was simply for him to give a new and fresh direction to US foreign policy. He failed to do that. Secondly, why the hypocrisy of many Africans with regard to the weaknesses of Obama? Had it been a white president at the White House continuing the Bush era wars, the very people who are defending Obama now would be holding placards criticizing US foreign policy. What is Obama doing now that Bush or Reagan has not done? Where is the "change" Obama promised and many Americans voted for him to bring that change? Infact the best servants of US imperialism at present are Black folks. Obama is just a toy in the hands of coporate America. Let us be honest about that and stop defending the crimes US imperialism is committing against darker skins abroad and the poor at home.
WF
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:39:17 -0700
From: helenlauer@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - News Release: President Obama On "Ending The War In Irag"
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
How can you blame US foreign policy--which has demonstrated the same jaw dropping viciousness and irresponsibility since the 1970s--look at Angola, look at Nicaragua to name but two shameful examples on different continents since the Vietnam debacle--on ONE MAN???? More importantly, why demonize the current president? This experiment called USA is going down the tubes very fast, I give the whole mess another fifty years at the outside, and pray for minimal damage elsewhere as it crumbles. Obama didn't cause this, it's a miracle he could revive and manifest the dream of what America has never been but was always hoped to be--for even five minutes. How about those ten minutes where he articulated the notion of freedom of religion and protection of what we stand for? The very bill of rights has been lost on Americans for forty years, it's true; is that his fault? The country has been rabidly pre-fascist since the time of Reagan--Reagan got voted in twice, through no fault of his own. That is what America stands for today. Why fall for the ad hominems? That paves the way to Palin. You're welcome to her.
Helen Lauer
University of Ghana, Legon
From: Wassa Fatti <wassafatti@hotmail.com>
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, August 20, 2010 12:13:14 PM
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - News Release: President Obama On "Ending The War In Irag"
Contrary to the truth is that the US is replacing combat troops with civilian mercenaries called 'contractors' in Iraq. These are nothing but hired civilians killers. The other truth Black folks are not ready to accept is the fact that Obama has turn out to be more disappointing and more sinister than George Bush. Obama has become the best tool at the helm of US imperialism killing darker skins in none European societies. The Iraq war has been privatised since the US has discovered oil and gas in Northern Afghanistan, the withdrawn troops from Iraq will be more useful in the covert colonisation (control) of Afghan natural resources. Let us not be fooled again. Obama is disgrace to say the least.
> Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:22:16 -0700
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - News Release: President Obama On "Ending The War In Irag"
> From: chidi.opara@gmail.com
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
>
> Shortly after taking office, I put forward a plan to end the war in
> Iraq responsibly. Today, I'm pleased to report that, thanks to the
> extraordinary service of our troops and civilians in Iraq, our combat
> mission will end this month, and we will complete a substantial
> drawdown of our troops....................Continue reading on:
> http://chidioparareports.blogspot.com/2010/08/news-release-president-obama-on-ending.html
>
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