Idowu:
So you are saying that the Members of the DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS in Nigeria who are already managing Nigeria are not bona fide stakeholders, right? As I said previously before you get carried aways with the pathogens I am studying in the lab, any way or time you select representatives from the ethnic groups in Nigeria to discuss and manage her affair will NOT LIKELY EXCLUDE the present leaders (Oni, Chiefs and Obas from SW; Obas and Chiefs from Midwest; Obis, Ezes, Obong and Chiefs from the SE; Emirs, Alhajis, Sardauna etc of the Northern Emirates; key national figures and their sorrugates/representatives; key business/corporate representatives etc)? IMPOSSIBLE! They are equal opportunity stakeholders in both their ethnic groups and Nigeria, like any of the Idowu(s).
Nigeria CANNOT AFFORD TO BE RUNNING IN CIRCLES with these ethnic mongering issues and distractions. People of the different ethnic groups have to exercise the courage to call their leaders to perform for their communities and Nigeria, and QUIT shifting blames to Nigeria. Nigeria will be as progressive as the management capabilities of the representatives of the different ethnic groups who discuss and manage her affiairs; it is irresponsible to shift the blame; the quality of a final product is as good as the the quality of the composite parts. Nigerians MUST commit to and focus on Nation Building, to be considered adequately fit and sufficiently equipped to march alongside other modern nations towards the imminent Global Village! Take care. JUI
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To: NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
We will not fight war o . Se Danjuma can still fight ni?
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Subject: Re: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
"The above quote is reminiscent of the consistent and continuing ethnic mongering that has keep Nigeria down for 50-something years now!"-JUI
JUI:
I think you are sounding very ridiculous, how does getting stakeholders involvement in how they are governed become mongering. I think it is time you get out of the lab and get involve in the mainstream of CDC to know that CDC programs implementation today put a lot of emphasis on stakeholders involvement. So JUI getting people not involved in the way they are governed is fascism, and getting stakeholders participation in their governance is what is called participatory democracy.
Finally, pathogens behave differently to human beings and most especially Nigerians.
"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
From: "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCPDCID)" <jbi8@cdc.gov>
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To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
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From: "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCPDCID)" <jbi8@cdc.gov>
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Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
"""""What is lacking in the present day Nigeria is lack of buy-in by the ethnicities that form the union."""""Unquote Idowu
The above quote is reminiscent of the consistent and continuing ethnic mongering that has keep Nigeria down for 50-something years now! Meanwhile, Nigeria continues to be ruled and managed by leaders from these SAME ETHNIC GROUPS where the Idowu(s) and other Ethnic-Mongers want the nation to reside. The rational Question is: which other ethnic groups in Nigeria do the Idowu(s) need their buy-in before Nigeria can be let be to make make PROGRESS, when leaders who discuss and manage Nigeria now are from the different ethnic groups in Nigeria? Aliens?
Some of these people are either clueless, confused or just simply busy-bodying about the concept of what a modern nation is; they appear to be canvassing for their individual selfish opportunities under the guise of "our ethnic groups"!
DAMN IT, the DIFFERENT ETHNIC GROUPS are already managing Nigeria! Which other way are you going to select representatives from the ethnic groups in Nigeria to discuss and manage her affair that will EXCLUDE the present leaders (Oni, Chiefs and Obas from SW; Obas and Chiefs from Midwest; Obis, Ezes, Obong and Chiefs from the SE; Emirs, Alhajis, Sardauna etc of the Northern Emirates; key national figures and their sorrugates/representatives; key business/corporate representatives etc)? IMPOSSIBLE! They are equal opportunity stakeholders in both their ethnic groups and Nigeria, like any of the Idowu(s). My Brothers and Sisters, Nigeria CANNOT AFFORD TO BE RUNNING IN CIRCLES with these ethnic mongering issues and distractions. People of the different ethnic groups have to exercise the courage to call their leaders to perform for their communities and Nigeria, and QUIT shifting blames to Nigeria. Nigeria is as progressive as the management capabilities of the representatives of the different ethnic groups who discuss and manage her affiairs; it is irresponsible to shift the blame; the quality of a final product is as good as the the quality of the composite parts. Nigerians MUST commit to and focus on Nation Building, to be considered adequately fit and sufficiently equipped to march alongside other modern nations towards the imminent Global Village! Take care. JUI
From: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com on behalf of NNAMDI JcSent: Sun 31-Oct-10 10:47 AM
To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: [ RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
Why not Danjuma !
After all, you killed Ironsi for the same purpose :
To keep Nigeria one !!!!!
nnamdi
--- In NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, idowu <idowubobo@...> wrote:
>
> JUI:
>
> You talk as if you've never step your foot in the Nigerian soil in a long time.
> This your optimism must be based on what some of us are not seeing. But if you
> are now a parapsychologist, please let us know.
>
> You are in your lab in US and screaming leadership, as if the leadership will
> jump from the sky. Secondly, any development or restructuring based on a man is
> a failed system.
>
>
> What is lacking in the present day Nigeria is lack of buy-in by the ethnicities
> that form the union.Â
>
> The way you mention leadership is very reminiscent of the Republican party
> solution to all economic ills of America--tax cut.
>
> How many of these leaders that you are talking about has Nigeria produced in her
> 50 years of existence? My brother be realistic, you are dealing with human
> beings and not pathogens which activities are predictable. You are not even
> talking about ordinary human beings, you are talking about Nigerians.
> Â Idowu
> "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> "There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must
> never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCPDCID)" jbi8@...
> To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com; NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 11:02:33 PM
> Subject: [NaijaPolitics] RE: [ RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity -
> Danjuma
>
> Â
> Publius,
> Look,it has been well established from the genesis of mankind and in both
> homogeneous and multi-ethnic societies that societal progress is Leadership!
> Leadership!! Leadership!!! The FACT remains that LEADERSHIP MAKES OR BREAK
> SOCIETY! People and society just follow the vision or no-vision, commitment or
> no-commitment, seriousness or no-seriousness and zeal or passivity of their
> leaders.
>
> In fact, just SOLVE the problem of leadership in Nigeria and MOST other Nigerian
> problems will be solved! Shikiena! JUI (Recollecting the apt words of former US
> Pres Harry Truman: ""In periods where there is no leadership, society stands
> still. Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity
> to change things for the better.� )
>
>
>________________________________
> From: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Gauss'A' Hudson
> Sent: Sat 30-Oct-10 8:19 PM
> To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep
> Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
>
>
> Â
> JUI,
> I see two sides to this. One is negotiating how the country should be structured
> or run. The other is WHY the country should exist in the first place. When you
> say visionary leadership, is the vision going to be that of one person or should
> the populace have an input into this vision? If the people are not asked what
> their vision is how can they be expected to support the vision of the visionary
> leader and why should the country exist at all?
>
> Publius
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, idowu idowubobo@... wrote:
>
> Â
> >I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
> >Â
> >The man Danjuma is too old to fight any war.
> >
> >Â Idowu
> >"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> >"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must
> >never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
> >
> >
>________________________________
> From: "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCPDCID)" jbi8@...
> >To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com;
> >NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Cc: NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com; naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com;
> >nigerianid@yahoogroups.com; usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com;
> >afenmai@yahoogroups.com; edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com;
> >isadus@googlegroups.com
> >Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 2:03:44 PM
> >Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity -
> >Danjuma
> >
> >Â
> >WESUPPORT Danjuma on the irrelevance of a National Conference to RE-DISCUSS the
> >need for a Nigerian State or Why We Should Have a Nigerian Nation. The Challenge
> >now is a Visionary Leadership to build and develop the nation, not subject her
> >to a re-negotiation. Take care. JUI
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> From: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com on behalf of peter opara
> >Sent: Sat 30-Oct-10 1:28 PM
> >To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >
> >
> >Â
> >jing, my friend, you made me laugh...with that apt saying....speaking with food
> >in the mouth. let us dare him to carry guns and forget his riches.
> >
> >--- On Sat, 10/30/10, Thomas Jing thomasjing@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >>From: Thomas Jing thomasjing@...
> >>Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com
> >>Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 1:06 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>Â
> >>yeah peter,
> >>your analysis makes a lot of sense. he should just keep quiet and eat his
> >>millions. it is bad manners to speak with food in the mouth!
> >>Â
> >>
>________________________________
> To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>From: ogbuonyeiro@...
> >>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:39:51 -0700
> >>Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>jing my friend, i know general danjuma as a person, and i know that he meant
> >>what he was saying; but as one with half a billion dollars in his pocket amidst
> >>millions of poor starving peoples, who is to believe him; he has made his
> >>choice, as to who he thinks can fight corruption to a "stand still", but he did
> >>know the man he chose functioned only on the protection of baba obasanjo; once
> >>obasanjo was nowhere around, the criminal cabals went after ribadu, and ribadu
> >>ran away.....danjuma will be in no position whatsoever to protect baby ribadu
> >>from the cabal that will sure surround him, frustrate him and floor him, that is
> >>if he has a single chance at all of seeing aso rock...yet danjuma will throw his
> >>millions at ribadu. i get curious, darned curious, why danjuma countenances not
> >>Buhari. but i understand it some. Buhari will never, ever, allow a situation in
> >>very poor nigeria, where a single man reaps millions of dollars off of the
> >>common weal, no matter how. all them nigerian operators like danjuma are thus
> >>aware....the vast nigeria is their playground, wherein they reap what they
> >>please, at the expense of all of us....for that reason, baabangida countenances
> >>no snc, it is 'a no go area' for him as far as nigeria's being....danjuma now
> >>says he will go to war.....as the same snc is a no go area for him...this gets
> >>my blood boiling, when people are against what to me determines what is mine and
> >>what other's....now who is ready to take up arms against the danjumas and
> >>baabangidas to fight for the good of all and what belongs to all.....i mean
> >>these men are ready to fight to keep the status quo that is so good to
> >>them.....WHO AMONG THE YAPSTERS HERE IS WILLING TO TAKE UP ARMS AGAINST THOSE
> >>WHO PERPETUALLY WILL AGAINST ALL, UPON ALL? i mean, when danjuma says he is
> >>ready to pick up arms to fight, i recall rather quickly he and his ilk had arms
> >>40 years ago to deny me freedom and security that i desired, and i want to say i
> >>count myself as one ready to fight, carry arms to fight for what i think is
> >>right for all in that godforsaken entity, a robbed and raped entity, some still
> >>want to keep as is because they get all they want from it, and the rest remain
> >>without.
> >>
> >>--- On Sat, 10/30/10, Thomas Jing thomasjing@... wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Thomas Jing thomasjing@...
> >>>Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 11:22 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>yeah right! "... make nigeria one great country" indeed. by doing what, bleeding
> >>>her white. it is often terrible when people who helped in destroying nigeria
> >>>carry out such media forays to conceal their true character. ironsi's wife
> >>>once referred to danjuma as a coward; come to think of it, she's right.
> >>>Â
> >>>
> >>>________________________________
> To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
> >>>CC: naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com; igboevents@yahoogroups.com
> >>>From: olawaleaina@...
> >>>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:57:56 +0000
> >>>Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>He is right on every point except that of the national conference. If I have 500
> >>>million dollars, I would say more than that!
> >>>
> >>>OA Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
> >>>________________________________
>
> >>>From: vincent modebelu vin_modebelu@...
> >>>Sender: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:17:43 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>To: OBSERVE YOURSELFNaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
> >>>ReplyTo: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Cc: naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com;
> >>>igboevents@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>He said that the Obasanjo he knew in 1979 was not the one who presided over the
> >>>affairs of Nigeria from 1999 to 2007....we would be called to rubber stamp
> >>>because he had already given anticipatory approval.......danjuma
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>
> >>>I’m ready for war to keep Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>Saturday, 30 October 2010 05:42
> >>>Biodun DurojaiyeÂ
> >>>Former Defence Minister, General Theophilus Yakubu Danjuma has two words for the
> >>>advocates of a Sovereign  National Conference in Nigeria: Forget it. To him,
> >>>convening such a forum would make the end of the country, an entity that he is
> >>>ready to defend with his last blood. Even at 73, Danjuma declared on Thursday in
> >>>Lagos, he is ready to take up arms to ensure that the oneness of the country is
> >>>not tampered with.
> >>>He describes a Sovereign National Conference as a trip to court to end a
> >>>marriage.
> >>>Â
> >>>The Taraba State-born  retired Army General made the declaration in a lecture he
> >>>delivered on Thursday evening at the Lagos Country Club, Ikeja. The lecture was
> >>>organised by the eminent social club.
> >>>Danjuma said:“Many people are saying we  need to convene a National Conference
> >>>to determine our existence. But I disagree with them. I am scared of (a)
> >>>National Conference. Convening the National Conference country will be like
> >>>going to a court to separate a marriage. At my age, I am ready to go to war to
> >>>make Nigeria one great country.�
> >>>He also described the current National Assembly as the most expensive, least
> >>>productive in the history of the country
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>His words: “The enormity of their allowances  must be a genuine concern for
> >>>us.The frequent changes in the leadership is a point to this fact, They are
> >>>serving their own interest rather than the people who voted them into power.
> >>>They lack the will and if the current trend continues, we are going to be in
> >>>great problem in this country.�
> >>>Danjuma also used the occasion to express support for the candidature of Mallam
> >>>Nuhu  Ribadu, former chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission
> >>>(EFCC) as the next president. He cited the “track records� of Ribadu in the war
> >>>against corruption, which to him, has now reached “oceanic proportions.�
> >>>Danjuma said that Ribadu, a presidential aspirant of the Action Congress of
> >>>Nigeria (can) is the best man for the job in 2011.
> >>>He said: “I recommend Nuhu Ribadu to you. He will fight corruption to a
> >>>standstill. People must be held accountable. If not, they will get away with
> >>>murder literally. If there is no restitution, we are sweeping the probe under
> >>>the carpet because there is corruption of oceanic proportion in Nigeria.�
> >>>Danjuma also lambasted his former boss, former President Olusegun Obasanjo, for
> >>>allegedly failing million of Nigerians at the latter’s second coming into power.
> >>>He said that the Obasanjo he knew in 1979 was not the one who presided over the
> >>>affairs of Nigeria from 1999 to 2007.
> >>>His words: “I was in the cabinet and I saw a totally different man. On so many
> >>>occasions, when memos were brought, we would be called to rubber stamp because
> >>>he had already given anticipatory approval.I strongly believed that Obasanjo was
> >>>going to deliver but he failed.�
> >>>To the former Chief of Army staff, the problems of Nigeria rest solely on lack
> >>>of good leadership, which he said explains why the nation has refused to move
> >>>forward, 50 years after independence. He added that one good person at the top
> >>>would turn the fortunes of the country around.
> >>>“The leadership problem is the issue. Leadership is very crucial to the survival
> >>>of any nation. I am an absolute believer that one right man or woman can make it
> >>>right in the life of a nation. Our country has so far been unlucky in this
> >>>aspect,� Danjuma noted.
> >>>On the myriad of problems bedevilling the nation, Danjuma said this is not the
> >>>time to apportion blames but to do something that would make the nation great in
> >>>the comity of nations.
> >>>His words: “This is not the time to condemn others for what we perceive as their
> >>>shortcomings. The nation has had so many of that.Whatever we have to offer, we
> >>>should offer. Whatever anyone has to say, let him say. Whatever anyone can do,
> >>>let him do.�
> >>>He continued: “The question is no longer what other persons have done or failed
> >>>to do but what we have done or are doing to uplift our country. That is my
> >>>expectation. The emphasis should be on what we can do for the nation, what we
> >>>can do for others. That is the only way forward. I do not agree with people who
> >>>keep quiet and say nothing about the problems of Nigeria. We must realise that
> >>>we have something to offer the nation, objectively, to take it proper place.
> >>>There are a lot of things to be corrected and it is our duty to correct them. I
> >>>do not agree with those who have become resigned with the situations and have
> >>>chosen to do nothing. The tenets of our country require radical change�
> >>>Danjuma noted that one of the major obstacles to creating progress on the part
> >>>of the citizens “is lack of confidence in ourselves and total absence of pride
> >>>in our country,� adding:  “Each and every one of us has something to offer the
> >>>nation and the world.�
> >>>He noted that it is good for a nation to have big dreams and to aim high “but we
> >>>must take care not to overshoot the targets. In dreaming dreams we must be
> >>>careful not to make fools of ourselves.�
> >>>He decried Nigerian’s lack of creativity even in the world of creative arts,
> >>>saying: “We equate the Nollywood film industry to Bollywood without blushing.�
> >>>Danjuma said that at this time “when the nation is rife with every kind of
> >>>factions and divisions, at a time when patriotism seems to be on the decline, I
> >>>cannot but commend men and women like you who are committed to peace, progress
> >>>and unity of the nation.� He added: “As you in this club place emphasis on the
> >>>things which unite us rather than things which divide you, so it ought to be for
> >>>our country.�
> >>>He argued that divided as Nigerians may seem to be, “the emphasis ultimately
> >>>shall be on the things which unite us,� adding: “I am confident that in spite of
> >>>all our differences, we shall come together in one strong united nation which
> >>>shall be an example in eyes of the world and a pride for the black race.�
> >>>He said the Nigeria of his dream should be a truly democratic and free nation,
> >>>transparently governed by knowledgeable, visionary, honest and pragmatic leaders
> >>>who are accountable to all our people and are economically self reliant nation,
> >>>where the majority of his people are gainfully employed.
> >>>Danjuma, who stated further that the Nigeria of his dream it one whose people
> >>>would have a sense of history and  respect for their cultural institutions,
> >>>added that he felt sorry that “ we have destroyed or are fast destroying one of
> >>>our most important cultural institutions, the village, at a time when we do not
> >>>have a substitute.�
> >>>He continued: “We have replaced our villages with slums and the conditions in
> >>>these slums have inhibited the cultivation of morals and given rise to all the
> >>>vices that we have to contend with now.
> >>>He wants the government at all levels  to fashion a programme which will enable
> >>>the millions of Nigerians who have migrated to the cities return to the
> >>>villages.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>By Bimbo Ogunnaike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69183:im-ready-for-war-to-keep-nigerias-unity-danjuma&catid=43:news&Itemid=799
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>vin......///
> >>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â yesterdays thoughts are today's news
> >>>will keep blowing while relaxed.....they are listening
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
--- In NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, idowu <idowubobo@...> wrote:
>
> JUI:
>
> You talk as if you've never step your foot in the Nigerian soil in a long time.
> This your optimism must be based on what some of us are not seeing. But if you
> are now a parapsychologist, please let us know.
>
> You are in your lab in US and screaming leadership, as if the leadership will
> jump from the sky. Secondly, any development or restructuring based on a man is
> a failed system.
>
>
> What is lacking in the present day Nigeria is lack of buy-in by the ethnicities
> that form the union.Â
>
> The way you mention leadership is very reminiscent of the Republican party
> solution to all economic ills of America--tax cut.
>
> How many of these leaders that you are talking about has Nigeria produced in her
> 50 years of existence? My brother be realistic, you are dealing with human
> beings and not pathogens which activities are predictable. You are not even
> talking about ordinary human beings, you are talking about Nigerians.
> Â Idowu
> "Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
>
>
> "There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must
> never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
> From: "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCPDCID)" jbi8@...
> To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com; NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 11:02:33 PM
> Subject: [NaijaPolitics] RE: [ RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity -
> Danjuma
>
> Â
> Publius,
> Look,it has been well established from the genesis of mankind and in both
> homogeneous and multi-ethnic societies that societal progress is Leadership!
> Leadership!! Leadership!!! The FACT remains that LEADERSHIP MAKES OR BREAK
> SOCIETY! People and society just follow the vision or no-vision, commitment or
> no-commitment, seriousness or no-seriousness and zeal or passivity of their
> leaders.
>
> In fact, just SOLVE the problem of leadership in Nigeria and MOST other Nigerian
> problems will be solved! Shikiena! JUI (Recollecting the apt words of former US
> Pres Harry Truman: ""In periods where there is no leadership, society stands
> still. Progress occurs when courageous, skillful leaders seize the opportunity
> to change things for the better.� )
>
>
>________________________________
> From: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Gauss'A' Hudson
> Sent: Sat 30-Oct-10 8:19 PM
> To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep
> Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
>
>
> Â
> JUI,
> I see two sides to this. One is negotiating how the country should be structured
> or run. The other is WHY the country should exist in the first place. When you
> say visionary leadership, is the vision going to be that of one person or should
> the populace have an input into this vision? If the people are not asked what
> their vision is how can they be expected to support the vision of the visionary
> leader and why should the country exist at all?
>
> Publius
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 30, 2010 at 2:11 PM, idowu idowubobo@... wrote:
>
> Â
> >I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity - Danjuma
> >Â
> >The man Danjuma is too old to fight any war.
> >
> >Â Idowu
> >"Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God." --Thomas Jefferson
> >
> >
> >"There may be times when we are powerless to prevent injustice, but there must
> >never be a time when we fail to protest." -- Elie Wiesel
> >
> >
>________________________________
> From: "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCPDCID)" jbi8@...
> >To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com;
> >NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Cc: NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com; naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com;
> >nigerianid@yahoogroups.com; usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com;
> >afenmai@yahoogroups.com; edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com;
> >isadus@googlegroups.com
> >Sent: Sat, October 30, 2010 2:03:44 PM
> >Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| RE: I'm ready for war to keep Nigeria's unity -
> >Danjuma
> >
> >Â
> >WESUPPORT Danjuma on the irrelevance of a National Conference to RE-DISCUSS the
> >need for a Nigerian State or Why We Should Have a Nigerian Nation. The Challenge
> >now is a Visionary Leadership to build and develop the nation, not subject her
> >to a re-negotiation. Take care. JUI
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> From: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com on behalf of peter opara
> >Sent: Sat 30-Oct-10 1:28 PM
> >To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >
> >
> >Â
> >jing, my friend, you made me laugh...with that apt saying....speaking with food
> >in the mouth. let us dare him to carry guns and forget his riches.
> >
> >--- On Sat, 10/30/10, Thomas Jing thomasjing@... wrote:
> >
> >
> >>From: Thomas Jing thomasjing@...
> >>Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com
> >>Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 1:06 PM
> >>
> >>
> >>Â
> >>yeah peter,
> >>your analysis makes a lot of sense. he should just keep quiet and eat his
> >>millions. it is bad manners to speak with food in the mouth!
> >>Â
> >>
>________________________________
> To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>From: ogbuonyeiro@...
> >>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:39:51 -0700
> >>Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>jing my friend, i know general danjuma as a person, and i know that he meant
> >>what he was saying; but as one with half a billion dollars in his pocket amidst
> >>millions of poor starving peoples, who is to believe him; he has made his
> >>choice, as to who he thinks can fight corruption to a "stand still", but he did
> >>know the man he chose functioned only on the protection of baba obasanjo; once
> >>obasanjo was nowhere around, the criminal cabals went after ribadu, and ribadu
> >>ran away.....danjuma will be in no position whatsoever to protect baby ribadu
> >>from the cabal that will sure surround him, frustrate him and floor him, that is
> >>if he has a single chance at all of seeing aso rock...yet danjuma will throw his
> >>millions at ribadu. i get curious, darned curious, why danjuma countenances not
> >>Buhari. but i understand it some. Buhari will never, ever, allow a situation in
> >>very poor nigeria, where a single man reaps millions of dollars off of the
> >>common weal, no matter how. all them nigerian operators like danjuma are thus
> >>aware....the vast nigeria is their playground, wherein they reap what they
> >>please, at the expense of all of us....for that reason, baabangida countenances
> >>no snc, it is 'a no go area' for him as far as nigeria's being....danjuma now
> >>says he will go to war.....as the same snc is a no go area for him...this gets
> >>my blood boiling, when people are against what to me determines what is mine and
> >>what other's....now who is ready to take up arms against the danjumas and
> >>baabangidas to fight for the good of all and what belongs to all.....i mean
> >>these men are ready to fight to keep the status quo that is so good to
> >>them.....WHO AMONG THE YAPSTERS HERE IS WILLING TO TAKE UP ARMS AGAINST THOSE
> >>WHO PERPETUALLY WILL AGAINST ALL, UPON ALL? i mean, when danjuma says he is
> >>ready to pick up arms to fight, i recall rather quickly he and his ilk had arms
> >>40 years ago to deny me freedom and security that i desired, and i want to say i
> >>count myself as one ready to fight, carry arms to fight for what i think is
> >>right for all in that godforsaken entity, a robbed and raped entity, some still
> >>want to keep as is because they get all they want from it, and the rest remain
> >>without.
> >>
> >>--- On Sat, 10/30/10, Thomas Jing thomasjing@... wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>From: Thomas Jing thomasjing@...
> >>>Subject: RE: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>To: nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Date: Saturday, October 30, 2010, 11:22 AM
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>yeah right! "... make nigeria one great country" indeed. by doing what, bleeding
> >>>her white. it is often terrible when people who helped in destroying nigeria
> >>>carry out such media forays to conceal their true character. ironsi's wife
> >>>once referred to danjuma as a coward; come to think of it, she's right.
> >>>Â
> >>>
> >>>________________________________
> To: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com; NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
> >>>CC: naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com; igboevents@yahoogroups.com
> >>>From: olawaleaina@...
> >>>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 14:57:56 +0000
> >>>Subject: Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>He is right on every point except that of the national conference. If I have 500
> >>>million dollars, I would say more than that!
> >>>
> >>>OA Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
> >>>________________________________
>
> >>>From: vincent modebelu vin_modebelu@...
> >>>Sender: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 05:17:43 -0700 (PDT)
> >>>To: OBSERVE YOURSELFNaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com
> >>>ReplyTo: NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Cc: naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com; NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com;
> >>>igboevents@yahoogroups.com
> >>>Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] ||NaijaObserver||I’m ready for war to keep
> >>>Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>He said that the Obasanjo he knew in 1979 was not the one who presided over the
> >>>affairs of Nigeria from 1999 to 2007....we would be called to rubber stamp
> >>>because he had already given anticipatory approval.......danjuma
> >>>
> >>>Â
> >>>
> >>>I’m ready for war to keep Nigeria’s unity â€" Danjuma
> >>>Saturday, 30 October 2010 05:42
> >>>Biodun DurojaiyeÂ
> >>>Former Defence Minister, General Theophilus Yakubu Danjuma has two words for the
> >>>advocates of a Sovereign  National Conference in Nigeria: Forget it. To him,
> >>>convening such a forum would make the end of the country, an entity that he is
> >>>ready to defend with his last blood. Even at 73, Danjuma declared on Thursday in
> >>>Lagos, he is ready to take up arms to ensure that the oneness of the country is
> >>>not tampered with.
> >>>He describes a Sovereign National Conference as a trip to court to end a
> >>>marriage.
> >>>Â
> >>>The Taraba State-born  retired Army General made the declaration in a lecture he
> >>>delivered on Thursday evening at the Lagos Country Club, Ikeja. The lecture was
> >>>organised by the eminent social club.
> >>>Danjuma said:“Many people are saying we  need to convene a National Conference
> >>>to determine our existence. But I disagree with them. I am scared of (a)
> >>>National Conference. Convening the National Conference country will be like
> >>>going to a court to separate a marriage. At my age, I am ready to go to war to
> >>>make Nigeria one great country.�
> >>>He also described the current National Assembly as the most expensive, least
> >>>productive in the history of the country
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>His words: “The enormity of their allowances  must be a genuine concern for
> >>>us.The frequent changes in the leadership is a point to this fact, They are
> >>>serving their own interest rather than the people who voted them into power.
> >>>They lack the will and if the current trend continues, we are going to be in
> >>>great problem in this country.�
> >>>Danjuma also used the occasion to express support for the candidature of Mallam
> >>>Nuhu  Ribadu, former chairman of the Economic and Financial Crimes Commission
> >>>(EFCC) as the next president. He cited the “track records� of Ribadu in the war
> >>>against corruption, which to him, has now reached “oceanic proportions.�
> >>>Danjuma said that Ribadu, a presidential aspirant of the Action Congress of
> >>>Nigeria (can) is the best man for the job in 2011.
> >>>He said: “I recommend Nuhu Ribadu to you. He will fight corruption to a
> >>>standstill. People must be held accountable. If not, they will get away with
> >>>murder literally. If there is no restitution, we are sweeping the probe under
> >>>the carpet because there is corruption of oceanic proportion in Nigeria.�
> >>>Danjuma also lambasted his former boss, former President Olusegun Obasanjo, for
> >>>allegedly failing million of Nigerians at the latter’s second coming into power.
> >>>He said that the Obasanjo he knew in 1979 was not the one who presided over the
> >>>affairs of Nigeria from 1999 to 2007.
> >>>His words: “I was in the cabinet and I saw a totally different man. On so many
> >>>occasions, when memos were brought, we would be called to rubber stamp because
> >>>he had already given anticipatory approval.I strongly believed that Obasanjo was
> >>>going to deliver but he failed.�
> >>>To the former Chief of Army staff, the problems of Nigeria rest solely on lack
> >>>of good leadership, which he said explains why the nation has refused to move
> >>>forward, 50 years after independence. He added that one good person at the top
> >>>would turn the fortunes of the country around.
> >>>“The leadership problem is the issue. Leadership is very crucial to the survival
> >>>of any nation. I am an absolute believer that one right man or woman can make it
> >>>right in the life of a nation. Our country has so far been unlucky in this
> >>>aspect,� Danjuma noted.
> >>>On the myriad of problems bedevilling the nation, Danjuma said this is not the
> >>>time to apportion blames but to do something that would make the nation great in
> >>>the comity of nations.
> >>>His words: “This is not the time to condemn others for what we perceive as their
> >>>shortcomings. The nation has had so many of that.Whatever we have to offer, we
> >>>should offer. Whatever anyone has to say, let him say. Whatever anyone can do,
> >>>let him do.�
> >>>He continued: “The question is no longer what other persons have done or failed
> >>>to do but what we have done or are doing to uplift our country. That is my
> >>>expectation. The emphasis should be on what we can do for the nation, what we
> >>>can do for others. That is the only way forward. I do not agree with people who
> >>>keep quiet and say nothing about the problems of Nigeria. We must realise that
> >>>we have something to offer the nation, objectively, to take it proper place.
> >>>There are a lot of things to be corrected and it is our duty to correct them. I
> >>>do not agree with those who have become resigned with the situations and have
> >>>chosen to do nothing. The tenets of our country require radical change�
> >>>Danjuma noted that one of the major obstacles to creating progress on the part
> >>>of the citizens “is lack of confidence in ourselves and total absence of pride
> >>>in our country,� adding:  “Each and every one of us has something to offer the
> >>>nation and the world.�
> >>>He noted that it is good for a nation to have big dreams and to aim high “but we
> >>>must take care not to overshoot the targets. In dreaming dreams we must be
> >>>careful not to make fools of ourselves.�
> >>>He decried Nigerian’s lack of creativity even in the world of creative arts,
> >>>saying: “We equate the Nollywood film industry to Bollywood without blushing.�
> >>>Danjuma said that at this time “when the nation is rife with every kind of
> >>>factions and divisions, at a time when patriotism seems to be on the decline, I
> >>>cannot but commend men and women like you who are committed to peace, progress
> >>>and unity of the nation.� He added: “As you in this club place emphasis on the
> >>>things which unite us rather than things which divide you, so it ought to be for
> >>>our country.�
> >>>He argued that divided as Nigerians may seem to be, “the emphasis ultimately
> >>>shall be on the things which unite us,� adding: “I am confident that in spite of
> >>>all our differences, we shall come together in one strong united nation which
> >>>shall be an example in eyes of the world and a pride for the black race.�
> >>>He said the Nigeria of his dream should be a truly democratic and free nation,
> >>>transparently governed by knowledgeable, visionary, honest and pragmatic leaders
> >>>who are accountable to all our people and are economically self reliant nation,
> >>>where the majority of his people are gainfully employed.
> >>>Danjuma, who stated further that the Nigeria of his dream it one whose people
> >>>would have a sense of history and  respect for their cultural institutions,
> >>>added that he felt sorry that “ we have destroyed or are fast destroying one of
> >>>our most important cultural institutions, the village, at a time when we do not
> >>>have a substitute.�
> >>>He continued: “We have replaced our villages with slums and the conditions in
> >>>these slums have inhibited the cultivation of morals and given rise to all the
> >>>vices that we have to contend with now.
> >>>He wants the government at all levels  to fashion a programme which will enable
> >>>the millions of Nigerians who have migrated to the cities return to the
> >>>villages.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>By Bimbo Ogunnaike
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>http://www.compassnewspaper.com/NG/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=69183:im-ready-for-war-to-keep-nigerias-unity-danjuma&catid=43:news&Itemid=799
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>vin......///
> >>>Â Â Â Â Â Â Â yesterdays thoughts are today's news
> >>>will keep blowing while relaxed.....they are listening
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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