Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Jos i perpective

Complements of the season,

 

On a much broader perspective, i do not think it is empirically, or even historically correct to say that we got religion and democracy from the colonial interlopers! We may have gotten Islam and Christianity from the European and Arab colonisers and slave raiders/traders; but we certainly had our own religions and pantheon of gods like every other human civilisation. Furthermore we may have gotten this specific form of democracy from the european colonial interlopers, i think and i blieve that history supports this, that we were certainly developing forms of governance which were becoming more participatory, and more representative than the absolute monarchy by the time of conquest.

I do not agree that democracy is a western gift to the world.

Regards,

Jaye

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From: KAYODE EESUOLA <gamesmaster_k@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Jos i perpective

Two things we got from  colonial interlopers: religion and democacy have contnued to bring war and crisis on Africa, yet we continue to patronise them as the solutions to our problem. Like fools we go to church , we go to mosque and we do elections everyyear; and in doing so Africa inflict more woes on herself. Is'nt it hightime we looked elsewhere? I rememberr Fela Anikulapo kuti --- On Fri, 12/24/10, orunmilababa@yahoo.co.uk <orunmilababa@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: From: orunmilababa@yahoo.co.uk <orunmilababa@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Bombs in Jos To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 6:03 PM This is, indeed, sad. It shows the ineptitude and failure of the ruling class to provide basic needs of the people and in this particular instance, security. That this happened without ANY of the countless  security agencies being maintained with tax payers money is absolutely lamentable. Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN -----Original Message----- From: Toyin Falola <toyin.falola@mail.utexas.edu> Sender: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 16:13:59 To: <USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com> Reply-To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Bombs in Jos > >Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 22:56:31 +0100 >Subject: Bombs in Jos >From: Sati Fwatshak <sfwatshak@gmail.com> >To: Toyin Falola <toyin.falola@mail.utexas.edu>, >j.chesworth@cmcsoxford.org.uk, >    Franz Kogelmann <franz@kogelmann.eu>, Dana Chivvis ><danachivvis@gmail.com> > >This is to inform you that this evening, about 730-8pm Nigerian >time, Bombs were dropped in various Christian dominated parts of Jos >killing several and wounding several more people. The affected >areas include Gada Biyu, Angwan Rukuba, and Tina Junction, with >drinking spots and bars most targeted. Though I live in the Staff >quarters very close to the Muslim-dominated part of the town, I >received a phone call from far away Abuja about the incident and >then called people both Christians and Muslims and Jos and they all >confirmed the incident. No one or group has claimed responsibility. >It is sad indeed. >Sati -- Toyin Falola Department of History The University of Texas at Austin 1 University Station Austin, TX 78712-0220 USA 512 475 7224 512 475 7222  (fax) http://www.toyinfalola.com/ www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa http://groups.google.com/group/yorubaaffairs http://groups.google.com/group/USAAfricaDialogue -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "USA-Africa Dialogue Series" moderated by Toyin Falola, University of Texas at Austin.    For current archives, visit http://groups.google.com/group/USAAfricaDialogue    For previous archives, visit  http://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/index.html    To post to this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue-         unsubscribe@googlegroups.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "USA-Africa Dialogue Series" moderated by Toyin Falola, University of Texas at Austin.    For current archives, visit http://groups.google.com/group/USAAfricaDialogue    For previous archives, visit  http://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/index.html    To post to this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com    To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue-         unsubscribe@googlegroups.com

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