Sahih Muslim, Book 17, Chapter 6: Stoning to Death of Jews and Other Dhimmis In Cases of Adultery, Number 4216: Jabir b.'Abdullah reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) stoned (to death) a person from Banu Aslam, and a Jew and his wife.[14]
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 23: Funerals, Number 413: Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: The Jew brought to the Prophet a man and a woman from amongst them who have committed (adultery) illegal sexual intercourse. He ordered both of them to be stoned (to death), near the place of offering the funeral prayers beside the mosque." [15]
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 3, Book 50: Conditions, Number 885: Narrated Abu Huraira and Zaid bin Khalid Al-Juhani: A bedouin came to Allah's Apostle and said, "O Allah's apostle! I ask you by Allah to judge My case according to Allah's Laws." His opponent, who was more learned than he, said, "Yes, judge between us according to Allah's Laws, and allow me to speak." Allah's Apostle said, "Speak." He (i .e. the bedouin or the other man) said, "My son was working as a laborer for this (man) and he committed illegal sexual intercourse with his wife. The people told me that it was obligatory that my son should be stoned to death, so in lieu of that I ransomed my son by paying one hundred sheep and a slave girl. Then I asked the religious scholars about it, and they informed me that my son must be lashed one hundred lashes, and be exiled for one year, and the wife of this (man) must be stoned to death." Allah's Apostle said, "By Him in Whose Hands my soul is, I will judge between you according to Allah's Laws. The slave-girl and the sheep are to be returned to you, your son is to receive a hundred lashes and be exiled for one year. You, Unais, go to the wife of this (man) and if she confesses her guilt, stone her to death." Unais went to that woman next morning and she confessed. Allah's Apostle ordered that she be stoned to death.[16]
if i knew hadith better i would look for views that counter this. there are rabbinical rulings that ultimately counter the biblical injunctions to stone to death, not only the adulterous woman but the disobedient child.
here are the fuller references http://www.wikiislam.net/wiki/Qur%27an,_Hadith_and_Scholars:Stoning_to_Death
the opening of the above site indicates that it is only in hadith that stoning is mentioned, not in the qur'an. the opening verse indicates that the commandment to stone to death was lost when a goat ate the piece of paper on which it was noted. that is the kind of indication that reformers would take to end the practice.
surely there are scholars on this list who have knowledge of religious opposition to the practice?
ken
On 1/10/11 11:21 PM, Foday Morris wrote:
I wonder if such barbaric punishments can be challenged in an international court of law. If there is possibility, how about us as Africans across the board come up with an action plan? For those who know the Quaran, can you tell me if the Prophet Mohamad ever talked about such a punishment or was it made up through out the years? Imagine being hit with a stone just one time on your head. Now can you imagine being pelted with multiple rocks and you cannot even protect yourself or rob the pain off? No religion should condone such inhumane punishment. By the way what happens to the men as accomplices? Nothing?
Disgusting!!!,
Foday
On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Cornelius Hamelberg <corneliushamelberg@gmail.com> wrote:
Where are the Muslims, when such matters are being discussed?
The family is a unit of society and morality is therefore a serious
matter. Once a society becomes degenerate/ decadent it's been known to
crumble.
Some societies take sexual morality more seriously than others. The
punishments for sexual transgression as defined by the various
religions, varies from religion to religion and some people speak from
their religious perspectives, some more than three thousand years old,
some as old as Christianity (in which by merely looking at a woman,
you may have committed adultery/ fornication) and in Islam which came
less than 1,500 years ago and claims to be the last / final Divine
Legislation communicated by the Almighty to mankind, the punishment as
defined by that religion and the hell-fire that awaits those who are
not forgiven, will forever remain a reality. Calling it barbaric only
makes matter worse, from the strictly Islamic point of view.
Some take the punishments more light-heartedly than others as
narrated here:
"The Confessional.
A priest was called away for an emergency. Not wanting to leave the
confessional unattended, he called his rabbi friend from across the
street and asked him to cover for him. The rabbi told him he wouldn't
know what to say, but the priest told him to come on over and he'd
stay with him for a little bit and show him what to do.
The rabbi comes and he and the priest are in the confessional. In a
few minutes a woman comes in and says "Father forgive me for I have
sinned. I committed adultery."
Priest says: "How many times?"
Woman: "Three times."
Priest says, "Say two Hail Marys, put $5.00 in the box, and sin no
more."
A few minutes later a man enters the confessional. He says, "Father
forgive me for I have sinned."
Priest says, "What did you do?"
Man says, "I committed adultery."
Priest asks, "How many times?"
Man replies, "Three times."
Priest says, "Say two Hail Marys, put $5.00 in the box, and sin no
more."
The Rabbi tells the priest that he thinks he's got it so the priest
leaves. A few minutes later another woman enters and says,
"Father forgive me for I have sinned."
Rabbi says, "What did you do?"
Woman replies, "I committed adultery."
Rabbi asks, "How many times?"
Woman says "Once."
Rabbi says, "Go do it two more times, we have a special this week,
it's three for $5.00."
Nota Bene: it's not a joking matter.
On Jan 10, 9:46 pm, "Igietseme, Joseph (CDC/OID/NCEZID)"
<j...@cdc.gov> wrote:
> Lawal,
> So the woman was HAPPY TO DIE by being stoned to death, because she believed she sinned and deserved to die in that manner, right? As I said previously elsewhere, your statements qualify you as a naive candidate for a religious Martyrdom or a misguided recruiter of suicide bombers through brainwashing of innocent people. Besides, pardon me, but it is my candid opinion that it is unlikely for you to win case in a Court of Rational Justice. Take care. JUI
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: NaijaPolit...@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Otitigbe
> Sent: Mon 10-Jan-11 1:25 PM
> To: NaijaPolit...@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [NaijaPolitics] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [BeliefsAndReligion] SHARIA: Woman-Stoned-To-Death-For-Adultery: UNCIVILIZED !!
>
> So liars are forgiven. No wonder Hausa people lie a lot, they will always be saying Walahi talahi constantly because they themselves do not believe in themselves.
> Otitigbe.
>
> From: Lawal Ishaq <mailto:lawalishaq...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 11:22 AM
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> Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: [BeliefsAndReligion] SHARIA: Woman-Stoned-To-Death-For-Adultery: UNCIVILIZED !!
>
> It is simple. The saying is: He who sins and repent from the sin (and by submitting to the prescribed punishment) is like one that never sin before. Who died without any sin goes to heaven by the pleasure of the Creator.
>
> It is as simple as that.
>
> I think that woman confessed to the commission of adultery. She was sentenced to death on account of her confession. She reserved the right to retract that confession even at the stage of her execution, and such execution must be called off. She did not.
>
> M. Lawal Ishaq Esq.,
>
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>
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>
> WAO, what a thought!
>
> When will you "submit to the Laws of Allah" for all the sins you have committed?
>
> jOo
>
> On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 5:46 AM, Lawal Ishaq <lawalishaq...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Heaven is exactly where she is now. The reward for a Muslim who submits to the Laws of Allah and die in the process is straight to heaven.
>
> M. Lawal Ishaq Esq.,
>
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> AFRICANS:
>
> Very Animalistic! So disgusting! I can only think of lynching and killing of Jesus on the cross (as reported), as being as horrible as this. If there is indeed heaven (after death), this woman and others who are murdered similarly would be there!
>
> Any man who participates in this kind of atrocity or who sees this and keeps quiet is worthless!
>
> This is a general disgrace and a stain on all Africa and Africans! It should be stopped!
>
> Joe.
>
> --- On Sun, 1/9/11, Fubara David-West <davidwes...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Fubara David-West <davidwes...@yahoo.com>
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> Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 10:17 AM
>
> Sharia: the barbaric rites of a primitive culture, should be condemned by the civilized world, anytime these kinds of killings occur.
>
> I thank you.
>
> Fubara David-West.
>
> --- On Sat, 1/8/11, Joseph Onuorah <nnamul...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Very animalistic! So disgusting! I can only think of lynching and killing of Jesus on the cross (as reported), as being as horrible as this. If there is indeed heaven (after death), this woman and others who are murdered similarly would be there!
>
> Any man who participates in this kind of atrocity or who sees this and keeps quiet is worthless!
>
> This is a general disgrace and a stain on all Africa and Africans! It should be stopped!
>
> Joe.
>
> ________________________________
>
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> <http://blogpipiatbingi.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/muslim-woman-st...> A woman in Kisamayo was stoned to death after committing adultery. More than 50 Somali men threw stones to the face of Aisho Ibrahim Dhuhulow who was found guilty of extramarital intercourse by the Sharia law.
>
> The woman was buried in the group, up her neck while she was bombarded with rocks in a public execution.
>
> "Our sister Aisha asked the Islamic Sharia court in Kismayo to be charged and punished for the crime she committed," local Islamist leader Sheikh Hayakallah told the crowd (via newspaper).
>
> "She admitted in front of the court to engaging in adulterous sexual intercourse," the source added.
>
> Last August, the port of Kismayo was seized by a coalition of forces loyal to rebel leader Hassan Turki and the Shebab, the nation's primary radical Islamist insurgent organization (much like RP's AbuSayyaf).
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