USA Africa Dialogue Series - REPRISING: Here we are on + Did Bakare really say this?

 

 

 

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THE SUN

 

INTERVIEW: What I won't take as Buhari's VP — Bakare
By DURO ADESEKO

Saturday, February 5, 2011

Pastor of the Latter Rain Assembly, Tunde Bakare, surprised Nigerians recently when he agreed to be the running mate of General Muhammadu Buhari, presidential candidate of the Congress for Progressive Change (CPC), in forthcoming general elections. Nigerians know him as a fiery preacher with many devoted followers.

 

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What would be the thrust of your social contract with the Nigerian people?

It cannot be business as usual. The local government chairman would come in broke and they will go home building mansions and all things. Funds that are voted for specific project would be executed within timeline and it would be obvious and evident to all Nigerians. You can be rest assured, I do not think I will come back richer than I am going in. I probably would come back broke. I don't intend to touch anybody's money but to put attention where it matters and to focus our energy on the development of the nation. You know you can trust General Buhari for that also. He has proved it over the years.

He is the only head of state without a petrol station. He has only two houses, one in Daura and they are just basic houses. He has no oil rig or oil well. He has no foreign account. He has no house abroad. He has lived even within his pension up to this time. He was petroleum minister and has no cent or one dollar per barrel sticking to his fingers. He has been governor in this country. He was Petroleum Trust Fund executive chairman and not a dime was traceable to him as being fraudulent. I think what Nigerians are face to face with is one vote for two honest men.

It is good you spoke about General Buhari this way, but you were once quoted to have said neither Buhari, nor Babangida nor Obasanjo would be part of the emerging Nigeria. Now, you are Buhari's running mate.  How do you reconcile the contradiction?

The Christian word Messiah is saviour of souls and of the world and I don't like such words being used for mere men. The best of men are still men at the very best. I won't call any man messiah. Everyman will contribute his quota to the development of the nation. I know men who are rising, who are going to do their best. Using the word Messiah is making man God. That is what I want to communicate. But besides that, you did not quote me accurately. What you are saying was in 2006 October. I said some of these old men should allow young men to operate, to come into power.

 

But the truth of it is that emphasis of the hour. The current emphasis of the hour is not generational shift but generational integration so that older and the younger can come together as demonstrated by Chief Obafemi Awolowo and Yakubu Gowon.  Awolowo could father Gowon. He was 57 when Gowon was 30; they worked together to save Nigeria from that terrible time of our people in cold blood. May God heal the wound that it affected in our nation. Time has come for the young and the old, male and female to cooperate together and move on. 2006 quotation is not applicable to 2011. That was then, this is now.

You were quoted as saying in the interview that neither of them would be president?

In 2007, did they become president? They didn't. That was my opinion for 2007. I didn't say 2011 and I didn't say they would never be president forever.

 

So, pastor, your opinion now is different from your opinion at the time?

Definitely, it is different. Remember, that is not peculiar to man. Even God Almighty spoke to Eli and said: "I said, now I say." It is in the Bible. So, proceeding word is not what was said but the proceeding word of the hour is: this is the time of change. Nigeria has embraced this change. They would vote for God-fearing people who love this country and have demonstrated that they are not interested in materialism and they cannot be bought by gold but can put gold to use for the benefit of the society.

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On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Mobolaji ALUKO <alukome@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Federal Edosomwan:

 

For the sake of the nation, and not for your sake because your support is irredeemable - it is like casting pearls wrongly if only directed at yourself -  I shall respond.

 

*In 2007, Buhari was 64 years old;  now he is 68.  He is four years wiser.  [By the way, Bakare is also 4 years older and wiser. That also matters.]

*In 2007, he was in ANPP; now he is in CPC.

*In 2007, he considered and chose Ume-Ezeoke, now he considered and chose Bakare

I could go on and on, but I would stop there.  If you have never changed your mind, then you are dumb.

 

Finally, we have a way of spending time on irrelevancies.  The candidates are making their choices of running mates; let us concentrate on getting their agendas for the nation, and making our votes count.

 

There you have it.

 

 

Bolaji Aluko

 

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 8:56 AM, eRG <edoregeneration@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 

"Bakare's prophecy was about 2007 elections....Buhari has since been "renewed", I guess, but not the "Short Ones"." Bolaji

Prof Bolaji Aluko:

My one and only Oga, ejo tell me more about the "renewed" Buhari since my dear friend Yinka Omo Odumakin has gone into hibernation mode. Abeg, hold my hand like the truly protege of yours that I am, tell me about the renewed Buhari.

I am all ears.....sir!
 

eRG

"God gives, Man hoards and Satan steals" - eRG's Father

 

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From: Bolaji <alukome@gmail.com>
To: NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 1 February, 2011 14:40:18
Subject: [NaijaPolitics] Re: [Naijaintellects] Here we are on + Did Bakare really say this?

 

Dear Pius and All:

Bakare's prophecy was about 2007 elections....Buhari has since been
"renewed", I guess, but not the "Short Ones".

God moves in mysterious ways, His wonders to perform....

And there you have it.

Bolaji Aluko

--- In NaijaPolitics@yahoogroups.com, Pius Adesanmi <piusadesanmi@...>
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> Daniel and Oderaigbo:
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> You really must not follow American
> politics very well to think that a 2007 Bakare attack on Buhari is a
> problem. The Americans have what you call misstatements and
> restatements. If this becomes a real problem, the Buhari/Bakare camp
> will issue a statement via Alagba Odumakin dismissing the 2007
> misstatement and replacing it with a restatement. Professor Aluko will
> then move in to dismiss your manufactured brouhaha and wonder why a
man
> shouldn't be entitled to episodic pockets of misstatements and
> restatements.
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> The
> Jonathan/Sambo camp will, of course, smell opportunity and call the
> Bakare restatements flip-flopping. eRG will be the shark that has
caught
> a whiff of blood in the water...
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> Magana ya kare.
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> 1/2/11, Oderaigbo odera.igbo@... wrote:
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> From: Oderaigbo odera.igbo@...
> Subject: [Naijaintellects] Here we are on + Did Bakare really say
this?
> To: nigeria360@yahoogroups.com, NaijaObserver@yahoogroups.com,
NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com, UmuAnambra@yahoogroups.com,
naijaintellects@googlegroups.com, edo-nationality@yahoogroups.com,
edo_global@yahoogroups.com, Anambra-WorldForum@yahoogroups.com
> Cc: "elombah daniel" elsdaniel@...
> Date: Tuesday, 1 February, 2011, 8:31
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> IBB Will Fail - Pastor Bakare
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> The Punch/Sun, Nigeria
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> The pastor of the popular The Latter Rain Assembly, Lagos, Pastor
Tunde Bakare, on Sunday said the dream of a former military dictator,
Mr. Ibrahim Babangida, to rule the nation in 2007 would fail, adding
that IBB is a decaying matter.
>
> Bakare, who spoke at a special programme of the church titled,
‘If the truth must be told� in Lagos, said the script to
install Babangida was already being acted out.
>
> He said, “As it is right now, only God can stop IBB from
becoming the president of this nation again. You are likely to disagree
but the strategy to bring him back has been perfected and the script is
being acted out.
>
> “But there is good news there because God has shown me how to
stop him.�
>
> The cleric, who did not tell his audience the strategy to stop the
Minna-based General from becoming the president in 2007, added that none
of the presidential front runners would make Aso Rock.
>
> Bakare said, “Let me tell you the truth by the spirit of God,
neither (President Olusegun Obasanjo), OBJ, Atiku (Abubakar), IBB and
this tall one, (Muhammadu) Buhari are part of the new. They are part of
the old that is decaying. That old one is passing away. The new is
emerging and these ones are not part of that new.�
>
> The pastor, whose prophecy in 1999, shortly after Obasanjo was elected
president, caused a major outcry, said the prophecy was not informed by
hatred for the person of the President or a dislike for the country.
>
> He said, “I love my country and I love the President. I pray
for my country too on regular basis. I do not wish Obasanjo or any other
person any evil. But my concern is for my country and what God has put
in my heart to tell the nation. I suppose that the over 1,000 pastors
that gathered to pray against the March 7, 1999 prophecy now know
better.�
>
> Making references to his 1993 and 1999 prophecies, Bakare declared
that only the counsel of God would prevail in the nation’s
situations.
>
> “When God warns his people, he only wants them to repent of
their evil ways and seek forgiveness. God is not interested in killing
anybody,� he said.
>
> Supporting his message with illustrations, the pastor said those who
“balanced the equation� in the deaths of (Sani) Abacha and
MKO (Abiola) were still around and could play a major role in the
present crisis rocking the Presidency.
>
> Bakare in his statements couched in deep analogies, said of
Nigeria’s present scenario, “By the present exposures that
are going on between the President and his deputy, vipers eggs are being
hatched, spiders’ webs are being woven. At the end, these will
heat up the polity, heat up the system and make the nation ungovernable.
>
> “It is also clear that your accomplice in crime will expose
you.�
>
> He warned against bloodbath, saying that the nation could not afford
another civil war.
>
> On the leadership the nation desires, he said, “We do not need
dishonest leaders, who are clever by half; who live in denials. We must
reject body language politics in Nigeria. We do not need people who
confuse personal account with the nation’s account.�
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> In its own report, the Daily Sun said Bakare declared Abiola was
murdered.
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> The cleric posited that it was divinely ordained that former President
Ibrahim Babangida, incumbent President Olusegun Obasanjo, Vice President
Atiku Abubakar would fight to destroy themselves for the nation to move
forward.
>
> He said Nigerians should not be surprised about the exposure of
corruption in high places as he likened the gladiators to partners in
crime against the nation.
>
> "A word of caution to our people. They should not take sides or join
in the battle that is going on. He who digs a pit will fall into it.
Your accomplice in crime might double cross you.
> "By the exposure that is going on, viper’s eggs are being
hatched while spider’s web is being woven deliberately to make
the nation ungovernable so that we will have no choice but ask them to
continue until October 2007," he said.
>
> Revealing a chilling prophetic vision, Bakare said: "Neither Buhari
nor IBB nor Obasanjo nor Atiku will be part of the new Nigeria.
> They are part of the old that has decayed and is still decaying. The
new is coming forth. It is the counsel of the Lord that shall stand in
this nation. Until the sons of turmoil destroy themselves, this nation
will not know peace."
>
> The preacher described the ruling Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) as a
basket of serpents and scorpions and insisted that the people must wrest
power from them through peaceful and proper transition.
> He alerted the nation to what he described as "the contraption of
evil" that is going on in high places and warned the president to always
watch his back as those who killed M. K. O. Abiola were still around.
>
> "The same people who balanced the equation that if Abacha is dead, M.
K. O. Abiola must follow suit are still around. Whoever tells you M. K.
O. died a natural death has lied. They contrived his cold murder.
> "When Abacha died, Abiola was still in prison and IBB for the first
time since he left power for
> his fortress in Minna came to Abeokuta to see the current president.
He came to greet him and came to offer him the package of the elders of
the north and at the same time, to present it (offer to be president in
1999) to the then General Obasanjo.
>
> And he (Obasanjo) replied him: ‘I have been head of state. I
have been prisoner, there is nothing else to be in my nation. Number
one, I don’t have the money to run for an election. Number two,
M. K. O. the man who won the election is still in prison. What would I
tell my people?’ He was assured. Read between the lines and lies.
Shortly thereafter, M. K. O became history."
> In graphic presentation, Bakare drew the attention of the congregation
to the recurrence of Babangida’s name in the past political
maneuvering and pointed out that the former military president was still
very much loaded with tricks.
>
> "Don’t forget his code name in the PDP registration is 007. You
are about to
> see the greatest theatrical performance in the history of politics in
Nigeria," he said.
> Bakare noted that those who said Obasanjo was the most acceptable
candidate to all the segments of the country would soon do the same in
respect of Babangida.
> He said nothing on ground at the moment could stop Babangida, except
God, regretting, however, that the current political gladiator could not
take Nigeria to the promised land.
> Pastor Bakare recalled that he had alerted the nation on several
occasions to the direction God was taking the country.
>
> The fiery preacher said rather than take counsel from the Holy Spirit,
President Obasanjo and the other political actors continued with their
"contraption of evil."
> "Rather than he (Obasanjo) clinging on to God, he is relying on his
own understanding. He is looking at his friends and thinking they are
his enemies," Bakare said.
> According to the pastor, whatever the political actors planned, "it is
> the immutable counsel of God that shall prevail in Nigeria.
>
> "Don’t think God has forgotten Nigeria. In all these
accusations and counter accusations and maneuvering, it is the
immutability of God’s counsel that is our anchor and it will
prevail."
> Pastor Bakare said God would raise new leaders for the nation, who
would rule with the fear of God, fairness and justice and He would heal
the land and make it flourish again.
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http://againstbabangida.com/Newsroom-at-AgainstBabangida.com/ibb-will-fa\
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that is decaying. That old one is passing away. The new is emerging and
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