----- Original Message -----From: Shek SesaySent: 5/3/2011 8:17:52 PMSubject: [Leonenet] Re: What if...Netters,
Since Sunday when news started spreading about the death of Bin Ladin, I have been thinking and tossing a lot of things in my quiet. Obama stated, clearly, in his campaign that if elected and he had to command a raid in Pakistan in order to root out bin Ladin then so be it. His statement caused a lot of unease both far and near considering the infringement on a foreign state implied therein. Today many may not recall the said statement. It is however worthwhile to note that Obama may have had fore sight and was au fait with issues than many were/are willing to accept. Is it also possible that he could have pulled off a similar precise "surgery" as the one on Sunday that could have removed the Taliban in Afghanistan without the necessity of war? Just musing...
It always pays to give praise where praise is due... It might just as well help humanity get out of the current quagmire...
Shek G. Sesay
(Who joins others in giving praise where it is due)
From: john cole <siehcole@yahoo.co.uk>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 4:29:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] A Poignant Piece From AP
hahahahah hey Doc nor kill me wit laf... de open minded Bush na im start de war dem, en ef de war dem result na increase enrollment fo de terrorist dem na Bush responsible fo dat. Obama nor need tink tanks dem weh som of unu bin dae becoz ee nor plan for start oda war. Bush needed it.
"Obama kill Osama" is focused on ending the wars ( I truly believe Obama can walk on water)...u hear it here first!.Jay Cee.
From: OSMAN KABBA <osmankabba@verizon.net>
To: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu; Toegondoe Sagbah <mendemoi@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tue, 3 May, 2011 15:48:16
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] A Poignant Piece From AP
So Nfa Karim, that is your beef with Obama all along that he did not use you as a pondit?
From: Toegondoe Sagbah <mendemoi@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Tue, May 3, 2011 3:42:33 PM
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DocThe more they swell up in ranks, the more they get killed and locked up. Just remember how many of your Christmas Bombers, New Year Bombers, Black Shoe Bombers, Undervest Bombers etc. etc. have been locked up? We have enough jail room for all of them, and if we go out of gas, we will bring in the mechanical guillotine
Toegondoe Sagbah, FAT IDOF
Fighting Against TribalismIn Defence Of Fairness
From: Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net>
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Karmoh Sagba, this is very sad for me to say; but the truth is that the ranks of the terrorists have swollen since we launched the wars against Iraq and Afghanistan. And with our war against Libya, we can expected the numbers to keep increasing.Is there a way out of this, I think so. But since some of us have been excluded from Obama's foreign policy circles, unlike Bush who was open minded to listen even to those of us who were his severest critics, I will keep my proverbial two cents to myself.----- Original Message -----From: Toegondoe SagbahTo: leonenet@lists.umbc.edu;Abdul Karim Bangura;USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.comCc: leonenetSent: 5/3/2011 3:14:46 PMSubject: Re: [Leonenet] A Poignant Piece From APBy the way, how many of those terrorists have been killed since The Great Obums took over? Start counting from Iraq. They are all going to be killed one by one until the civilize world gets constituted by only civilize humans.
Fighting Against TribalismIn Defence Of Fairness
From: Abdul Karim Bangura <theai@earthlink.net>
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Subject: [Leonenet] A Poignant Piece From AP
Bin Laden dies, but the terror threat lives on
Deputy National Security Adviser for Homeland Security and Counterterrorism John Brennan gesturess during the daily news briefing at the White House in Washingotn, Monday, May 2, 2011. (AP Photo - Carolyn Kaster)LOLITA C. BALDORFrom Associated PressMay 02, 2011 6:42 PM EDTWASHINGTON (AP) — Osama bin Laden's death may temporarily decapitate al-Qaida, but the threat of terror attacks remains, and it could spike in coming days from individuals or small extremist groups inspired to take revenge for killing, terror experts said Monday.
Would-be successors to the terror leader pose a threat as they jostle for power and attention. And other jihadists inspired by the extremist messages may decide to act on their own — a threat that law enforcement officials say is much harder to detect and prevent.
<a href="http://ad.doubleclick.net/jump/news.earthlink.dart/news_300x250_top;abr=!ie;sz=300x250;ptile=5;ord=06377155?"><img style="float:right;margin-left:5px" src="http://ad.doubleclick.net/ad/news.earthlink.dart/news_300x250_top;abr=!ie;sz=300x250;ptile=5;ord=06377155?" border=0 height="250" width="300"></a>"People who are angry at us will be more so," said Matthew Levitt, a counterterrorism and intelligence expert at the Washington Institute for Near East Studies. "They had attacks in the works last week, last month, today — and those things can still happen."
While the terror threat to the U.S. erupting from the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks has been rooted in al-Qaida, it has metastasized in recent years to spawn a broad range of affiliated groups operating out of Yemen, Somalia, Afghanistan and the Pakistan border region.
And with the Internet as their tool, terror leaders have worked to inspire individuals around the globe to take up the fight and launch their own attacks on Main Street USA. Bin Laden's death, at the hands of U.S. special operations forces who stormed his private compound in Pakistan on Monday, may ignite simmering passions, and no one knows how or where the danger could surface next.
"The biggest threat in the coming days is the recently radicalized people, or people that have been thinking about participating and are part of this demographic of jihadists that do not bear formal membership to any group, that have not necessarily traveled to a training camp, but have been encouraged by groups like al-Qaida, al-Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula and others to conduct their own missions themselves," said Ben Venzke, director of IntelCenter, a Virginia-based company that studies terrorist groups and monitors their Internet messages.
Law enforcement officials said Monday that they are seeing no specific, bin Laden-related threats at this point, but they issued a bulletin warning that homegrown extremists could use this as an excuse to launch an attack.
Offsetting that, experts said, are the reverberations of the successful U.S. operation.
Extremists in the midst of attack plans, or looking to make a revenge strike, "are looking over their shoulders," said Levitt.
"They're assuming everything is penetrated, they're afraid of talking on the phone, they're afraid of using their couriers," he added. "It really shakes the tree in a very violent way."
In the near term, Venzke and other experts say the attacks would likely be small and planned quickly by would-be jihadists. But history shows such ad hoc, individual attempts can as easily be deadly as they can be duds.
At Fort Hood, Texas, a shooter reportedly inspired by al-Qaida-linked extremists gunned down 13 and wounded 32 more in November 2009. And another man seeking to avenge the deaths of Muslims by U.S. forces shot and killed a soldier at a Little Rock, Ark., recruiting center in June 2009.
Then there have been the near-misses: the attempted Times Square bombing a year ago, the plot to bomb New York subways and the failed effort to detonate mail bombs on cargo planes last October.
The Homeland Security Department and FBI confirmed the retaliatory threat Sunday, issuing a bulletin to law enforcement around the country. The warning said bin Laden's death could inspire extremists to speed up their plans for attacks, and the threats could come from unidentified al-Qaida operatives in the country that could move forward with their own plots.
"Bin Laden's death may provide justification for radicalized individuals in the United States to rapidly mobilize for attacks here," the document said.
Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said the government does not plan to raise the terror alert level in the U.S.
For al-Qaida, the future is at best uncertain.
Loyalists in Afghanistan, under increasing pressure from the U.S. and coalition forces, may decide now is the time to sever ties with the terror group, said Richard Barrett, the head of a U.N. group that monitors the threat posed by al-Qaida and the Taliban.
Bin Laden's heir apparent, Ayman al-Zawahri, is deeply unpopular, and any struggle to replace the terror leader could divide and further weaken the group.
Al-Qaida and its core leaders have been under great pressure in Pakistan in recent years from the escalating barrage of U.S. drone attacks. And the Pakistani military has pushed into many of the group's strongholds along the border, making communications, fundraising and attack planning far more difficult.
But officials also warn that al-Qaida has proven to be resilient and patient — a wounded tiger that still has some life in it, White House counterterror chief John Brennan said.
For would-be bin Laden successors waiting in the wings, this presents a prime opportunity to snatch the mantle.
"We should expect them to fast-track any and all plots that have the chance to produce high-visibility, mass-casualty attacks against U.S. targets overseas or on the homeland," said Frank Cilluffo, director of George Washington University's Homeland Security Policy Institute.
Cilluffo, a former special assistant to the president for homeland security, said terror leaders "will be motivated to prove they are relevant, that they can continue to pose a threat and most of all that they deserve to be the heir apparent to bin Laden."
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Associated Press writer Eileen Sullivan contributed to this report.
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Tuesday, May 3, 2011
USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: What if...
Good Greetings Kohthoh Shek Sesay:
For me, all I see is a failure of our human race to live with one another in peace. Let us pray that our children, who are becoming more astute, do better than us.
After my plenary address yesterday at the ECDC-CARI conference, a lady in the audience walked up to me and asked a very important question. She was very carefully in wording her question not to generalize about all Muslims. She wanted to know how I felt about the small number of Muslims engaged in terrorist acts and the consequences for Muslims in general.
My response was that Muslims have had to bear and continue to bear the brunt in the following three ways:
(1) As a student of history, I know that it was Westerners that first started to terrorize Muslims, Afrikans, Native Americans, Asians, etc. through their imperialist machinations. This led to the deaths and suffering of millions of these people.
(2) A small number of Muslims are fighting back by engaging in the same terrorism that is forbidden in the Qur'an, the Hadith, the Torah and the Bible, and other revelations that Muslims must respect. And because of their tactics, Muslims, Afrikans, Asians, etc. also get killed by them.
(3) Westerners then retaliate for the actions of these small number of Muslims, leading to the deaths and suffering of Muslims, Afrikans, Asians, etc.
In short, we humans must find a way to stop this vicious cycle. We must create conditions for the future generations to leave in a peaceful world. It is not too late! We must begin now!
In Peace Always,
Abdul Karim Bangura/.
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