I "need to start reading Benny Morris, Avi Shlaim, Ilan Pappe "?
When did you first read any of them? Fifteen years ago? Twenty? I'm
still reading them.
You need to do what I did a long time ago: fully acquaint yourself
with al-Islam in it's various facets and fully acquaint yourself with
all of the Palestinian Arab political literature and history written
by them - not just Edward Said - and then update yourself with the
likes of Bassam Tibi and Aziz Al-Azmeh (who is from Syria) and some of
them Iranians.
Sure, I have friends (not just acquaintances) who are members of the
Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas. Hezbollah......and who speak Arabic the way
you speak the Yoruba of the unsuppressed.
Ask any of them a question and I can tell you what he will answer.
On 22 Juli, 16:19, Pius Adesanmi <
piusadesa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Side question : Does "seek justice" mean that JESHURUN should be
> handed over to Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah who say that they will never
> recognise Israel and who are united in one purpose and one purpose
> only: to ( God forbid) eradicate Israel and erect a Fundamentalist
> Muslim State operating Sharia Law on the Carcass of what they now call
> "Occupied Palestine"
>
> Ogbuefi Cornelius the Ota pia pia of USAAfricadialogue:
>
> Barouh atat adonai. I have come again. You express above the timeless love of the slaver for the enslaved; of the colonizer for the colonized. Apologies to Mazi Moses Ochonu, the historian, for I must encroach a little bit on his territory. My way of saying that every land grabber in history has always expressed great love, so much love for the people they oppress, as to perpetually worry about what they would do with freedom and justice! The French and the Brits and the Portuguese so loved their colonized Africans that they spent a great deal of time worrying what Africans would do with independence and if we were even ripe and ready for it. The disease-bearing land grabbers in North America, New Zealand, and Australia never stopped wondering what our friends, the Amerindians, the Aborigenes, the Maoris, could possibly want to do with their land which, remember, was wild and unoccupied before they came anyway. Margareth Thatcher and Ronald Reagan
> never stopped worrying about what would happen to their poor blacks if, God forbid, sanctions worked and apartheid came to an end. Oh, my poor blacks! And here is our own brother Ogbuefi Cornelius displaying his affiliation to that philosophical arrogance of the oppressor. Oh, my poor Palestinians. Can they handle freedom? Won't terrorist organizations hijack their freedom if, Adonai forbid, we were to grant it to them? You just can never tell with the Araboushim, can you? No greater love hath the Occupier for the Occupied that he is willing to apply his brain to rationalizing why freedom and justice should not be granted to the occupied!
>
> Now to your questions. My brother, one should not be too tired to answer obvious questions in this matter since it is in the nature of the colonizer to forget simple things and simple answers:
>
> Occupation? Yes, O-C-C-U-P-A-T-I-O-N!!!!!!!!
>
> Which Occupation? The Occupation of Palestinian lands by the oppressor-state of Israel and the aiding and funding of that monumental crime by the United States of America.
>
> Whose Occupation? The occupation of Palestinians by Israel.
>
> I am a student of the Israeli new historians. I collect their works. You need to start reading Benny Morris, Avi Shlaim, Ilan Pappe and the rest. You don't even need to bother with Palestinians telling their own side of the story. Just stick with the Israeli new historians.
>
> Any more questions, my brother Cornelius?
>
> Pius
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cornelius Hamelberg <
corneliushamelb...@gmail.com>
> To: USA Africa Dialogue Series <
usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, 22 July 2011, 6:05
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Occupation? Which occupation and whose occupation ?
>
> I find myself thinking along these lines as ( like a cow) I chew the
> cud of what Messers Benjamin and Harrow have been saying recently, in
> this forum:
>
> Seek ye Justice, yes, but up till now in this African Forum, no one is
> talking about "Occupied Mauritania" which allegedly abolished slavery
> in 1984.
>
> In the words of Naiwu Osahon, 29th October 2010,
>
> "Mauritania left the Economic Community of West African States to join
> the union formed by the Arab North African States. A few years ago,
> Mauritania sacked all Black natives from their civil service
> positions. Black Mauritanians protest their plight to the African
> Union (AU) without receiving attention, because AU Black leaders fear
> offending their Arab colleagues in the AU. In Mauritania, they have
> had to declare an end to slavery six times in this century alone, and
> still nothing has changed for the captive majority African natives.
> African slavery is still in their statute books. African slavery in
> Mauritania is what the on going quarrel between Mauritania and Senegal
> is about. The quarrel forced Black African refugees to pour across the
> border from Mauritania into Senegal."
>
> Is it any wonder that Avi Bari from Guinea did not seek asylum there?
>
>
http://www.google.com/search?q=Mauritania+and+slavery&ie=utf-8&oe=utf...
>
> Nor is anyone talking about occupied anywhere else in Africa North of
> the Sahara, even as some resident so called Afri-can-ists who deep
> down in their psyche think that they can are still making false
> accusations about non-existent "Racist Arab Libyans" as a distinct
> category to be found exclusively in the Eastern part of Libya. It's
> the same kind of mentality that crowned Mr. Gaddafi "The King of Kings
> of Africa" the kind of mentality that Bedford N. Umez, PhD has
> tirelessly identified as "Inferiority complex"
>
> Side question : Does "seek justice" mean that JESHURUN should be
> handed over to Fatah, Hamas and Hezbollah who say that they will never
> recognise Israel and who are united in one purpose and one purpose
> only: to ( God forbid) eradicate Israel and erect a Fundamentalist
> Muslim State operating Sharia Law on the Carcass of what they now call
> "Occupied Palestine" ?
>
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