i agree pablo. and i think your warnings re the aphrodisiac drugs proved true.
but here is my subsidiary question, which has to do with sources. i can more or less read the stretches built into sources that are forcing their arguments. but this report was reuters reprinted by the times.
i can't help but wonder who regulates the reliability of these reports. when i get to know the reportage of a reporter, like howard french, i can come to rely on it. we all need to know how much we can rely on reuters or the ny times. we have journalist specialists on this list, like folu ogundimu, whose opinions we might like to know here
ken
On 8/27/11 9:13 AM, Pablo Idahosa wrote:
Similarly Ken, I respect your posting them; we need all of the information that we can assay. I Just do not accept the content. It's just that much of the evidence adduced this far for the intervention has been both questionable and oft-timed bogus. This, of which there will be many more I am sure, has all of the post hoc, ergo propter hoc feel about it. That's what wars are like; that's why propaganda gets circulated.
Best,
Pablo
On 26/08/11 7:36 PM, kenneth harrow wrote: pablo
i respect, too, your insistence that we read these reports with clarity. until we have something to contradict this, we have to, at least, consider its possibility. on the face of it, this, like many other reports, is terrible--but still possible. how can we conclude it is risible without some contradictory evidence?
ken
On 8/26/11 5:27 PM, Pablo Idahosa wrote: Respectfully, Abdul, I do not think that the issue your raise is the issue at all. It's the prior one-- namely, Ken, can one take this "report" seriously? The NYT, citing Reuters, citing the "disinterested "We have terrible messages (in our possession), and they will be made public soon," Frattini said in an interview with Avenire, the Italian bishops' newspaper." It's probably fabricated, and at best, propaganda, and, I think, in the midst of all of this horrible chaos and death, risible.
Pablo
On 26/08/11 4:33 PM, Abdul Bangura wrote: E-Mail This So it that Italy's reason for joining the bombing of Afrikan Libyans and other Afrikans in Libya to smithereens? Does Italy hate Afrikans that much?
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