Tuesday, August 9, 2011

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - March Against US & NATO Terrorism In Libya

All Pan-Afrikanists who called for Gbagbo to go were quite adamant in their insistence of ECOWAS to do the job. Anyone who says that any Pan-Afrikanist wanted racist Midget Sarkozy to do the job is a liar. Two Nigerian air force jets could have taken out Gbagbo's heavy weapons just like the French and UN did. It took the New Forces only five days to take the entire country. In essence, Sarkozy's boys were not needed had ECOWAS leaders carried out the mandate for which they had voted.

As for what happened in Libya, those who do not swallow Western propaganda line, hook and sinker know better. In fact, Gadhaffi joined the protests against him when they started. The frustration prompted the racist Arab Libyans to take up arms and started killing poor Black Afrikan workers who they dubbed as "Black mercenaries," as if there are no "Black" Libyans.

This will be my one and only response to you on this issue. So to you your own truth and to me mine.
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Moses Ebe Ochonu
Sent: Aug 9, 2011 2:12 PM
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - March Against US & NATO Terrorism In Libya

He has embraced all of them. Unlike the people's revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt, the racist Arab Libyans in Benghazi introduced violence in the protests because they knew they had very little support in the country and were banking on the push by racist Midget Sarkozy.

--Mwalimu Bangura, the Afrikan


This is the kind of dishonesty and hypocrisy that has discredited the impulsive pan-AfriKanism of Bangura and his ilk. The Libyan protesters "introduced violence in the protests"? I thought their violence was a response to the deadly, scotched earth violence of Ghadafi's security forces. Are we now blaming the victims, who resorted to violence AFTER their peaceful protest was met by a hail of gunfire and repressive violence and only AFTER they faced imminent decimation from vengeful Ghadaffi forces? As a historian whose academic practice thrives on chronology and chain of causality and effect, I will not allow the chronology of this recent history to suffer in the hands of self-proclaimed AfriKan brothers of the tyrant called Ghadaffi. And, by the way, is it not the height of hypocrisy and intellectual duplicity for those who only a few months ago were hailing Sarkozy as the deracinated savior of Ivory Coast to now expect us to take them seriously when they describe the same Sarkozy as "racist Midget Sarkozy"? I can listen to reasonable and consistent anti-imperialist voices, but on this matter, you, Mwalimu Abdul Karim Bangura, are credibility-challenged.


 

On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net> wrote:
Thanks a heap for your response, Mwalimu Kwasi. Yes, we gave Brother Gadhaffi a road map for a peaceful resolution of the conflict and reforms. He has embraced all of them. Unlike the people's revolutions in Tunisia and Egypt, the racist Arab Libyans in Benghazi introduced violence in the protests because they knew they had very little support in the country and were banking on the push by racist Midget Sarkozy.
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: 8/9/2011 8:22:05 AM
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - March Against US & NATO Terrorism In Libya

Mwalimu Bangura,
I know you are passionate about democracy in the concrete sense and campaigned hard for the right thing to be done in the Ivory Coast. I know you are equally hard against NATO bombing in Libya, and I am with you there.
 
However, imagine that you were an anti-Gaddafi Libyan (as not everyone can, should or does support the Brother-Leader), and in the absence of any possibility of legally contesting his rule in any shape or form, and given that he is grooming is children and possibly grand children to rule without given the people any real choice in the matter, what would be your response to NATO bombing? Remember that on March 16th, I think, Gaddafi warned his Benghazi foes: we will show no mercy, no pity.
 
Will the anti-NATO march also propose ways of getting all Libyans to talk and move their country forward or will it just be bashing NATO as usual and praising Gaddafi, etc?
 
Cheers

 
Kwasi
 
Kwasi Gyan-Apenteng,
Journalist & Communications Consultant
Accra

President,
Ghana Association of Writers
PAWA House, Accra




 

From: theai@earthlink.net
To: USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - March Against US & NATO Terrorism In Libya
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 00:11:25 -0400

Millions in Harlem to March to stop Illegal US, NATO warmaking in Libya
The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan will be the keynote speaker
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By Saeed Shabazz -Staff Writer- | 8-3, 2011
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NEW YORK (FinalCall.com) - Activists representing a broad coalition of anti-war organizations, the Nation of Islam, the political left, Islamic organizations and a plethora of grassroots community organizations recently stood together on the stage of the Assembly Hall at the Riverside Church, proclaiming that all roads lead to Harlem for the Aug. 13 Millions in Harlem March to stop the bombing of Libya.
"Where are we going to be on Aug. 13?", asked Sara Flounders, co-director of the International Action Center, the main sponsors of the Riverside Church event. "In Harlem!", the standing room only crowd shouted back.
President Barack Obama never believed that his actions against Libya could galvanize the movement that will be in the streets of Harlem on Aug. 13, said Abdul Akbar Muhammad, the international representative of the Nation of Islam, in response to a question from The Final Call. Marching alongside of the Nation of Islam the second Saturday in August will be members of the White Left and other progressives, Pan Africanists, Black grassroots organizations and national Islamic organizations, he added.
<http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/National_News_2/article_8057.shtml>


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