Mwalimu JG, China's denial is all over the media. See, for example, this CNN report:
China denies report, says it did not sell weapons to Libya
September 05, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff
September 05, 2011|By the CNN Wire Staff
A rebel stands near the site of an airplane destroyed by a NATO strike at Libya's Bir Durfan military base on September 4, 2011.
Documents showing that China offered to sell arms to Moammar Gadhafi in the waning days of his rule are "the real deal," a senior member of Libya's transitional government said Monday.
The comment follows a report by Canada's The Globe and Mail newspaper saying that state-controlled Chinese arms manufacturers were prepared to sell at least $200 million worth of weapons to Gadhafi, which would have violated U.N. resolutions banning such transactions.
The Globe and Mail said one of its reporters found the documents, in Arabic, in a pile of trash in Tripoli's Bab Akkarah neighborhood, an enclave that was home to some of Gadhafi's most loyal supporters.
The documents, which were posted Sunday on the website of the Toronto-based newspaper, do not confirm whether any military assistance was delivered to Libya. However, Libya's National Transitional Council said it appears deliveries might have been made.
"We found several documents that showed us orders, very large orders, of arms and ammunition specifically from China, and now we do know that some of the things that were on the list are here on the ground, and they came in over the last two to six months," said Abdulrahman Busin, NTC spokesman.
He said it is unclear whether the exact list on the document was delivered, "but there were many things on that list that are here, and these are brand-new equipment, brand-new weapons, brand-new boxes of ammunition that haven't been opened yet, that were clearly delivered only in the last few months.
"Don't forget that we have many of the generals and high commanders who defected some time ago who know Gadhafi's regime very, very well, know what he has and doesn't have, and we know 100% that there was a lot of weapons and arms that were delivered to Gadhafi over the last few months -- during the war and during the sanctions," Busin said.
And Mohamed Sayeh, a member of the NTC, said Libya's new leaders have seen the documents.
"This deal is a real deal and we have seen the official documents," he said. "It was signed by Chinese officials, and it was to send guns and artillery to Libya through Algiers to expedite the deal."
China says it followed U.N. Security Council resolutions that banned the export of arms to Gadhafi's government.
----- Original Message -----From: Jaye GaskiaSent: 9/6/2011 5:40:19 PMSubject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafi--How the claim be said to be bogus when the Chinese have not denied this, and have explained that there was contact and there were negotiations, but no contract was signed?JGFrom: kenneth harrow <harrow@msu.edu>
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2011 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafi
the claim was made by toronto's globe and mail reporter; it sounded completely credible.
ken
On 9/6/11 8:42 AM, Abdul Bangura wrote:In fact, the claim that the Chinese tried to sell arms to Gadhaffi has turned out to be bogus, albeit I wish they had and even vetoed the so-called "No Fly Zone" yuki-yuki. If the biggest bullies the contemporary world has ever known (US, UK, and France) and their racist Benghazi Arab Libyan puppets can use the most Satanic weapons to butcher Black Libyans and other Black Afrikans in that country, why should China not sell arms to Gadhaffi to defend our people?------- Original Message -----From: Olayinka AgbetuyiSent: 9/6/2011 7:05:26 AMSubject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafiKen:--
Having read some of Abdul Bangura's opinions and the view of Friedman in the article supplied by Cornelius Hamelberg I do not know whether the comparison between China and Walcotts poem is entirely justified. You see, China indeed took sides but was voted down. It does not pretend to have fallen head over heels in love with western-style democratic configurations which motivated the NATO intervention, hence its determination to subvert them through alliances with figures such as Gaddafi... Indeed when the leading historians of our time begin to write the true history of the current Libyan conflict, it will undoubtedly be seen as the classic case of the proxy war, the like of which was witnessed in the anals of American history: XYZ war etc...
Olayinka Agbetuyi
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:06:40 -0400
From: harrow@msu.edu
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafi
so, say some, it doesn't really matter that china is in africa just for the money. whatever the regime it supports, whatever arms embargoes it violates, whatever deaths result, it is just money, just business, just the same as anyone else.
here's walcott's great lines from "The Spoiler's Return."
"all you go bawl out, 'Spoils, things ain't so bad.'
This ain't the Dark Age, is just Trinidad,
is human nature, Spoiler, after all,
it ain't big genocide, is just bohbohl."
that's our china, just bohbohl.
walcott continues:
"safe and conservative, 'fraid to take side,
they say that Rodney commit suicide,
is the same voices that, in the slave ship,
smile at their brothers, "Boy, is just the whip,"
i free and easy, you see me have chain?
A little censorship can't cause no pain,
a little graft can't rot the human mind,
what sweet in goat-mouth sour in his behind."
china, bohbohl, sweet in goat-mouth, but tomorrow done come
ken
New York Times
By ANNE BARNARD
Published: September 4, 2011
TRIPOLI, Libya — In the final weeks of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi's battle with Libyan rebels, Chinese state companies offered to sell his government large stockpiles of weapons and ammunition in apparent violation of United Nations sanctions, officials of Libya's transitional government said Sunday. They cited Qaddafi government documents found by a Canadian journalist, which the officials said were authentic.
The documents, including a memo from Libyan security officials detailing a shopping trip to Beijing on July 16, appear to show that state-controlled Chinese arms companies offered to sell $200 million worth of rocket launchers, antitank missiles, portable surface-to-air missiles designed to bring down aircraft, and other weapons and munitions. The documents, in Arabic, were posted on Sunday on the Web site of The Globe and Mail, a Toronto newspaper.
The Chinese companies apparently suggested that the arms be delivered through third countries like Algeria or South Africa. Like China, those countries opposed the United Nations authorization of NATO military action against Qaddafi forces in Libya, but said they supported the arms embargo imposed by an earlier United Nations resolution.
A rebel military spokesman, Abdulrahman Busin, said in an interview on Sunday that the transitional government would seek accountability through appropriate international channels. Mr. Busin said that any country that had violated the sanctions would have poor prospects for business and other dealings with Libya, an oil-rich country.
"We have hard evidence of deals going on between China and Qaddafi, and we have all the documents to prove it," he said, adding that the rebels have other evidence, including documents and weapons found on the battlefield, showing that arms were supplied illegally to Colonel Qaddafi's forces by numerous other governments or companies. "I can think of at least 10 off the top of my head," he said.
-- kenneth w. harrow professor of english michigan state university department of english east lansing, mi 48824-1036 ph. 517 803 8839 harrow@msu.edu
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