Good! Mwalimu Gyan-Apenteng, now let me list just a handful of some of the great things Gadhaffi has done for Libyans and other Afrikans.
(a) The Great Man-Made River (GMR) brings potable water to the entire country, including the desert---a marvelous technological feat that brings water from deep in the Sahara to the Mediterranean coastal-belt, where Libya's arable land is located.
(b) Self-sufficient in poultry, vegetables, and cereals---and this for a country whose arable land is only two percent of the total land.
(c) The world's largest producer of urea.
(d) The women are well represented in every profession---more so than any other Afrikan or Arab country.
(e) One of the largest petrochemical industries in the world.
Reasons for westers' hate of Gadhaffi:
(a) He nationalized the oil industry----western oil companies and their puppet leaders are still bitter about that.
(b) He kicked France out of the Fezzan.
(c) He closed American military bases in Wheelus Field and other areas.
(d) He kicked out Italian settler farmers.
And the following is what Reverend Alfred SamForay had to say about Gadhaffi:
I think the better way to put this is, if the terrorists now being paraded as liberators and their Western godfathers who brought them to Tripoli had any sense of decency, they would have not bombed civilians in the name of liberation. Libya is not Sa. Leone and Tripoli is certainly not like where you and I ran away from; there were no power outages that we know of in the 42 years of Gaddhafy's rule. Only when the oil robbers and their terrorist friends arrived on the scene. Life expectancy at birth in Libya is 76 years - virtually the same as France, Britain and the US - which are trying to change thins there. The GDP per capita in Libya is nearly US $18,000 - nearly twice as high as Africa's largest economy, South Africa, and nearly 10 times higher than Africa's most popuous nation, Nigeria. I will leave it to you to compare Libya today to Libya under King Idris the Second. Libya d! efinitely was not a democracy under Gaddahffy, but it certainly wasn't a permanently impoverished banana republic like nearly all the rest in Africa. No?
SmF
----- Original Message -----From: Kwasi Gyan-ApentengSent: 9/6/2011 9:46:20 AMSubject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafiI find Dr. Bangura's extreme affection for Gaddafi rather difficult to understand.--
Gaddafi has been responsible for some of the worst suffering in West Africa
stretching from Liberia, Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, etc.
There was never any hint of progressive politics in Gaddafi's regime.
Indeed, the fact that he has not even tried to rally the "Popular Committees"
to his defence just shows that they lacked any serious content and
coherence as a political force.
On the contrary, Gaddafi has been calling on tribal leaders, which is not
surprising since in the last years traditional rulers have been his main allies.
Hating the US, UK, France etc for their imperialism, racism, et al, should not
automatically lead to the sanctifying of a dictator who did not only rule without
a mandate for 42 years but groomed his children to take over the
repressive dynasty.
And while we are at it, Chinese arms would also kill Africans in the same way American ones do,
they will be paid for with the same oil money.
Kwasi
Kwasi Gyan-Apenteng,
Journalist & Communications Consultant
Accra
From: theai@earthlink.net
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com; usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafi
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 08:42:02 -0400
In fact, the claim that the Chinese tried to sell arms to Gadhaffi has turned out to be bogus, albeit I wish they had and even vetoed the so-called "No Fly Zone" yuki-yuki. If the biggest bullies the contemporary world has ever known (US, UK, and France) and their racist Benghazi Arab Libyan puppets can use the most Satanic weapons to butcher Black Libyans and other Black Afrikans in that country, why should China not sell arms to Gadhaffi to defend our people?----- Original Message -----From: Olayinka AgbetuyiSent: 9/6/2011 7:05:26 AMSubject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafiKen:
Having read some of Abdul Bangura's opinions and the view of Friedman in the article supplied by Cornelius Hamelberg I do not know whether the comparison between China and Walcotts poem is entirely justified. You see, China indeed took sides but was voted down. It does not pretend to have fallen head over heels in love with western-style democratic configurations which motivated the NATO intervention, hence its determination to subvert them through alliances with figures such as Gaddafi... Indeed when the leading historians of our time begin to write the true history of the current Libyan conflict, it will undoubtedly be seen as the classic case of the proxy war, the like of which was witnessed in the anals of American history: XYZ war etc...
Olayinka Agbetuyi
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 22:06:40 -0400
From: harrow@msu.edu
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - chinese arms for ghaddafi
so, say some, it doesn't really matter that china is in africa just for the money. whatever the regime it supports, whatever arms embargoes it violates, whatever deaths result, it is just money, just business, just the same as anyone else.
here's walcott's great lines from "The Spoiler's Return."
"all you go bawl out, 'Spoils, things ain't so bad.'
This ain't the Dark Age, is just Trinidad,
is human nature, Spoiler, after all,
it ain't big genocide, is just bohbohl."
that's our china, just bohbohl.
walcott continues:
"safe and conservative, 'fraid to take side,
they say that Rodney commit suicide,
is the same voices that, in the slave ship,
smile at their brothers, "Boy, is just the whip,"
i free and easy, you see me have chain?
A little censorship can't cause no pain,
a little graft can't rot the human mind,
what sweet in goat-mouth sour in his behind."
china, bohbohl, sweet in goat-mouth, but tomorrow done come
ken
New York Times
By ANNE BARNARD
Published: September 4, 2011
TRIPOLI, Libya — In the final weeks of Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi's battle with Libyan rebels, Chinese state companies offered to sell his government large stockpiles of weapons and ammunition in apparent violation of United Nations sanctions, officials of Libya's transitional government said Sunday. They cited Qaddafi government documents found by a Canadian journalist, which the officials said were authentic.
The documents, including a memo from Libyan security officials detailing a shopping trip to Beijing on July 16, appear to show that state-controlled Chinese arms companies offered to sell $200 million worth of rocket launchers, antitank missiles, portable surface-to-air missiles designed to bring down aircraft, and other weapons and munitions. The documents, in Arabic, were posted on Sunday on the Web site of The Globe and Mail, a Toronto newspaper.
The Chinese companies apparently suggested that the arms be delivered through third countries like Algeria or South Africa. Like China, those countries opposed the United Nations authorization of NATO military action against Qaddafi forces in Libya, but said they supported the arms embargo imposed by an earlier United Nations resolution.
A rebel military spokesman, Abdulrahman Busin, said in an interview on Sunday that the transitional government would seek accountability through appropriate international channels. Mr. Busin said that any country that had violated the sanctions would have poor prospects for business and other dealings with Libya, an oil-rich country.
"We have hard evidence of deals going on between China and Qaddafi, and we have all the documents to prove it," he said, adding that the rebels have other evidence, including documents and weapons found on the battlefield, showing that arms were supplied illegally to Colonel Qaddafi's forces by numerous other governments or companies. "I can think of at least 10 off the top of my head," he said.
-- kenneth w. harrow professor of english michigan state university department of english east lansing, mi 48824-1036 ph. 517 803 8839 harrow@msu.edu
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