Friday, September 16, 2011

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: British Draft at the SC Resolution Makes Libya Protectorate: WHAT?

I'm always very distrustful of the UN being in a position to violate
other country's sovereignty.
I'm especially suspicious about the UN's neutrality towards Israel for
example or of their ever having troops on the ground there.

These one dimensional monomanical support rafters for Gaddafi are
getting a little tedious and out of synch with reality.

Gaddafi is wanted by the ICC. Brer Gaddafi's relevance for those who
still want to go on fighting for their king of kings of Afrika to re-
take power in Libya could be relevant as long as the Gaddafi camp
still has access to the Libyan People's money to finance such a fight,
to pay their mercenaries etc. It could be beginning to dawn on most of
them, at long last, that it's all over.

The AU and the Libyan king of kings of Afrika did not have the
resources or the political will to establish some law and order in
Darfur when the going was at its worst for "Black Africans" there.

What could be wrong with "a United Nations  Support Mission in Libya
for an initial
period of three months" when the democratic institutions that have
hitherto been abysmally absent are now in need of being created, built
up and strengthened with a little help from the friends of the Libyan
people?

The UN has the resources and Libya has the financial and some of the
manpower resources - so the question is which expert personnel and
from countries, will fulfil the humanitarian mandate?
And of course that they should be able to do so in a secure
environment.


http://www.google.com/search?q=Libya+and+the+UN&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:sv-SE:official&client=firefox-a

On Sep 16, 12:32 pm, MsJoe2...@aol.com wrote:
> People:
>
> Maybe I have lost by sense of English or my eyes are playing. Whaaaat?  
> Hmmm.  Uhhhhh?
>
> SPEECHLESS. Thank God for the long life to see this in the 21st  century.
>
> Yesterday Sarkozy was smiling from ear to ear in Tripoli. Guess what he  
> said? Libya has asked him to help hunt Gaddafi and he needs ask Niger to
> return  one son.
>
> ================================================================
>
>           British Draft  SC Resolution on Libya May Not Make Libyans Happy,
> It Establishes  Bases for Protectorate
> 16/09/2011  04:19:00            
>
> France's President Nicolas  Sarkozy (let) and Britain's Prime Minister
> David Cameron flank the  NTC leaders, Mustafa Abdul-Jalil (left) and Mahoud
> Jibril while  addressing the press in Tripoli Thursday
>
> By a Tripoli  Post Correspondent
>
> Libyans who have fought the Al Qathafi  oppressive regime for more than six
> months may not receive a newly  British circulated draft resolution dealing
> with the situation in  their country with open arms.
>
> Libyans in general have  expressed their deep appreciation for the UN and
> NATO's help in  fighting back Al Qathafi's assault on civilians who rose up
> against  a 42- year long dictatorship on February 17.
>
> But when it  comes to the latest hash hash draft resolution circulated by
> Britain  to the 15-member council the same Libyans are having second  
> thoughts.
>
> The unease derives from the fact that the  resolution is calling for the
> establishment of a United Nations  Support Mission in Libya for an initial
> period of three months with  a mandate that may heavily infringe the ever
> sought-after  independence.
>
> Libyans have emphatically rejected any  international or outside military
> presence on their soil even when  they were unarmed and under attack from Al
> Qathafi's huge military  power. At that time they accepted a UN Security
> Council resolution  1973 supporting a no-fly zone aimed at the protection of
> civilians  with a clear condition that there would be no foreign military  
> presence on the ground.
>
> But the new draft resolution could be  creating the same conditions the
> Libyans were deeply concerned about  - a presence of foreign 'security'
> personnel under whatever name  even if it is the so-called UN mission in Libya.
>
> Under the  sub-title 'UN Mandate', the draft resolution stated:  
>
> "Decides to establish a United Nations Support Mission in  Libya (UNSMIL),
> under the leadership of a Special Representative of  the Secretary-General
> for an initial period of three months, and  decides further that the mandate
> of UNSMIL shall assist and support  Libyan national efforts to:
>
> a) restore public security and  order and promote the rule of law;
> undertake inclusive political  dialogue, promote national reconciliation, and embark
> upon the  constitution-making and electoral process;
>
> b) extend state  authority, including through strengthening emerging
> accountable  institutions and the restoration of public services;
>
> c)  protect human rights, particularly for those belonging to vulnerable  
> groups, and support transitional justice;
>
> d) take the  immediate steps required to initiate economic recovery; and
> e)  coordinate support that may be requested from other multilateral and  
> bilateral actors.
>
> Taken together, the above mandate along  with all other articles in the
> five-page resolution and combined  with the lack of a strong central government
> in Libya the country  could very well become a 'protectorate state' and
> hence we can soon  see the rebirth of the protectorate system.
>
> According to the  above mandate, Libya becomes "an autonomous territory
> that is  protected diplomatically or militarily against third parties by a  
> stronger state or entity.
>
> "In exchange for this, the  protectorate usually accepts specified
> obligations, which may vary  greatly, depending on the real nature of their
> relationship.  However, it retains sufficient measure of sovereignty and remains a  
> state under international law."
>
> It has also been reported  that the US and France were involved in the
> drafting, and  veto-wielding Russia and China agreed to the draft. Meanwhile,
> China  and Russia as well as Qatar, UAE and Turkey want to have their say  on
> the circumstances that led to such a draft resolution.
>
> In  its pp1 paragraph, the draft resolution says it took note of a  letter
> from the Libyan National Transitional Council (TNC) asking  for UN support.
> But the problem with this paragraph is that the  Libyan people have never
> heard of such a letter before nor was it  ever discussed in public.
>
> The very existence of the letter to  the SC will deepen the debate about
> lack of transparency on the part  of the NTC and its executive bureau and will
> most likely lead to  more distrust by the people of these still undefined
> two political  bodies.
>
> Bringing in the UN's security heavy hand to Libya at  a time when the
> Libyans are handling the security of their liberated  cities very smoothly and
> efficiently will play into the hands of the  remnants of Al Qathafi's
> supporters and his propaganda. It will also  create uncalled for confusion and
> disorientation in the emerging  democratic political process in Libya.
>
> According to one  political observer in Tripoli who declined to be named, "
> the better  solution for the UN, NATO and the newly liberated, potentially  
> strong civil democratic state in Libya is for the UN not to  interfere in
> the 'security' issue in the country as well as not to  send any security
> experts, consultants or observers."
>
> "The UN  and all allies of the new Libya who are being held so high by the  
> people may do a great extra favour if they let Libyans sort the  security
> issue out by themselves. For they are more versed in the  circumstances
> surrounding them and in no way they are extremists,"  he added.
>
> "Today's Libya needs a strong uncorrupt prime  minister with similarly
> strong ministers who can convince the  general public that they were not part
> of the Al Qathafi corrupt  regime and who are willing to work hard for the
> rebuilding of the  country during the transitional period.
>
> "The current 'new  leaders' do not have the needed full support of the
> general public  and the reason is lack of transparency and lack of experience
> at all  levels.
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> _Summary  of the American and International Press on the Libyan Revolution -  
> Morgan Strong_ (http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=6920)  
>
> Fighters  loyal to the interim Libyan National Transitional Council have  
> reached the outskirts of Sirte from three fronts in an assault on  Muammar Al
> Qathafi's hometown and last strongholds.
>
> ____________________________________
> _Full  Text of the British Circulated SC Draft Resolution Establishing UN  
> Support Mission in Libya_
> (http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=6919)  
> Britain  circulated the draft resolution to the 15-member UN Security
> Council  Tuesday night and Western diplomats said they are hoping for a vote  by
> the end of the week. The aim of the resolution is to establish a  UN '
> Support Mission' with full mandate in national security  matters.
>
> ____________________________________
>  (http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=6918) _British  Draft SC
> Resolution on Libya May Not Make Libyans Happy, It  Establishes Bases for
> Protectorate _ (http://tripolipost.com/articledetail.asp?c=1&i=6918)
> Libyans who have fought the Gaddafi oppressive  regime for more than six
> months may not accept a newly British  circulated draft resolution that makes
> their country the last  protectorate in history.      
> ____________________________________
>
> ____________________________________

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