reality on the ground, has softened its stance:
The new head lines read :
AU will recognise Libya's NTC
AU to work with NTC on unity govt
China backs NTC in representing Libya at UN
Just watched David Cameron Niklas Sarkozy reaffirm their countries
commitment to supporting the Libyan people in the days ahead and
exhorting Colonel Gaddafi to come out of hiding and turn himself in to
face the music. Their press conference in Tripoli came to an end with
Sarkozy's now famous last words with reference to Gaddafi on the run:
"Immunity has come to an end "
On Sep 14, 3:40 pm, MsJoe2...@aol.com wrote:
> Hail to South Africa, Zimbabwe and Tanzania for holding the fine line. On
> Monday, the position of the African Union not to recognize the NATO-managed
> Libyan Rebel's Transitional National Council (TNC) was reaffirmed. Most
> of the African countries that do are free to do so based on their economic
> dependencies and other precarious considerations.
>
> At the UN, who is against the killings of blacks in Libya. Not even Obama
> has raised a voice. Waow, as the World Turns, it is not All My Children.
>
> _http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dbclFV_70&feature=share_
> (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82dbclFV_70&feature=share)
> A telling video on how Africom was part of US venom against Gaddafi
>
> Hello:
>
> One of the casualties of double standards is the convenience of no abiding
> principle while advancing expediency as the thrust of the matter. It is a
> seductive posture requiring no critical thinking. We can start with apples
> and end up with a diversionary much ado about the shapes of various
> antelopes.
>
> Just like you are missing the point of the article and veering off
> tangent. The question is not term limits or the right of citizens to effect
> change (see Tunisia and Egypt) but whether the African Union has the right not
> to recognize the Libyan rebels. It does as a matter of principle that has
> been applied in similar situations, more recently in Niger. But when Niger
> made a transition to civilian democracy through an election, it was
> readmitted as a member of the AU. The West had no problem with that. So why the
> shifting sand?
>
> Emphatically, Western powers have no legal or moral rationale to effect a
> military coup in an African country as they did in Libya and expect the
> African Union to sanitize their actions. The ruse of humanitarian grounds as
> pretext to invade Libya in order to bring about regime change does not
> deserve more explanation when one heeds to the admonishment of Ayn Rand
> (1905-1982): "Do not ever say that the desire to "do good by force is a good
> motive." In deed, Voltaire said it and I paraphrase - if someone makes you
> to believe in absurdities, he/she will make you to commit atrocious.
>
> No sir, some of us who disagree with the barbarous nature of UN-backed
> incursion in Libya are not out of sync with Africa's best interests. If you
> claim to love democracy, you can join the club as a stakeholder in
> indigenous and enduring African empowerment not redesigning client-states in Africa
> with transient alliances based on Western interests.
>
> Sincerely, we are not deluded. We know NATO and its Western allies have
> the means and ways to do what they want in disguised and open fashion. But
> should we swallow their immoral bullshit as the facts? History is replete
> with revisionists who portrayed Africa as an uncivil expanse before it was
> discovered by various explorers with slave trade mentality. But let it be
> known that NATO and UN has managed to turn one of the richest countries in
> Africa with the highest standard of living to a beggar and dependent nation.
> Why -in terms of cost/benefit analysis?
>
> How do the material and psychological ashes of Libya help Libyans? Tomorrow
> NATO would be gone while the bombing nations use Libya's frozen funds to
> pay their contractors to rebuild Libya. Students disrupted their studies to
> fight - where are they now? Some are now protesting against the TNC in
> Misrata and Benghazi. In the United States, poverty has skyrocketed while
> billions are spent on stupid wars. How does a Nobel prize winner manage two
> wars he inherited and create his own overseas while loosing the battle to jump
> start American economy? In general, how do these wars create a safer and
> democratic world? I am a pacifist; I don't like violence to begin with; and
> I supported the people's power in Egypt and Tunisia.
>
> Unless you have a narrative from the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, rational
> and objective people who follow the unfolding know that this is no war
> waged and won by Libyans. The rebels cannot even invade a shoe factory unless
> NATO has bombed, killing civilians in the process, and cleared the way for
> rebels to advance. Then they shoot their riffles in celebration with the
> Western press savoring each inch of the make-believe. Right now, they have
> retreated waiting for NATO to bomb Bani Walid and Sirte for them to rush in.
> What a liberation captured by oxymoron.
>
> Can you explain the grand irony of NATO still bombing towns and civilians
> who simply do not want to be ruled by TNC? Hahaha, did NATO not say its
> mandate is to protect the rights of protesting civilians? Is it the
> legitimate duty of NATO to be throwing pamphlets from the skies, asking protesting
> citizens, in their own countries, to surrender?
>
> Sir, I think you would have excelled in 1800 Africa by filling brief for
> Otto Von Bismarck. You are too clever for me to understand your
> constitutional question when it is anchored on expedient faculties.
>
> Okay, since you appear to be very educated, wise and versed in the ways
> of constitutional means, can you explain how five countries in the UN
> Security Council can choose to sanction the invasions of selective countries and
> ignore whatever undemocratic mayhem that does not suit their interests -
> and yet there is no constitutional means to change the gross imbalance of 5
> countries controlling the say of 188 countries at the UN? Do you have an
> idea how other regions without veto powers can change that?
>
> Now, if the African Union and most of the South American countries choose
> to ignore the browbeating and pressures of the military super powers within
> the provisions of their constitutions, suit yourself.
>
> Regards,
> MsJoe
>
> In a message dated 9/14/2011 7:04:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>
> adva...@yahoo.com writes:
>
> What would be the constitutional means for the Libyan people to choose a
> different leader? Are there articles in the Libyan constitution that
> address constitutional transition? Have they been adhered to over the 40 years
> of Gaddafi's rule? How is the rebellion antidemocratic when the Gaddafi
> regime was not a democracy? The Madagascar and Ivory Coast examples do not
> apply since in those cases there was an electoral process however flawed.
>
> African Union's Decision on Libyan NTC Noble
> 12 September 2011
> This refusal opened floodgates of criticism from various corners of the
> world. Some sections accused the continental body of being out of sync with
> the so-called winds of democracy that are currently sweeping through the
> continent.
> Others opined that the AU's decision was largely informed by some African
> leaders who, like the beleaguered Brother Leader Muammar Gaddafi, were
> facing similar threats of being unseated by civilian uprisings in their own
> backyards.
>
> So many other arguments were also proffered in order to put the AU's
> position into the global perspective.
>
> However, after going through some of the arguments, I felt that most of
> them failed to properly analyse the African position on its own merit. Most
> analysts allowed emotions, ideological prejudice and political preconceptions
> to mar their judgments.
> At the end, I felt that the gist of the AU pronouncement had clearly evaded
> the comprehension of many. For a start, the continental body announced
> that it will not recognise the NTC because Article 30 of its Constitutive Act
> clearly stipulates that the body will not recognise governments that come
> into power through unconstitutional means.
> It is apparent that the AU, guided by this legislature, was obliged to
> reject any association with the Libyan rebels. Simple logic informs us that the
> NTC is not a constitutional entity as it came into being after usurping
> power through unconstitutional military means.
> The continental body was therefore simply subjecting itself to the dictates
> of the rule of law. This is the same rule of law that most of its members
> are arbitrarily accused of lacking. It is therefore ironic that Africans
> are now being ostracised for piously preserving the sanctity of this overly
> quoted democratic principle.
> Antithetically, the same countries who claim to be paragons of democracy
> are feverishly at the forefront of pestering our countries into undermining
> the rule of law through the recognition of the illegitimate council of
> clueless rebels in Libya.
> Instead of applauding Africa for upholding this hallmark of democracy,
> western countries, through their equally imperial media outlets, are trying to
> blackmail the continent into blindly rubberstamping its ill-advised
> military escapade in Libya.
>
> It should be put to record that this was not the first time that the AU
> has refused to recognise governments that had come to power through
> unconstitutional means. In its short history the continent has witnessed numerous
> coups and civilian uprisings.
>
> Interestingly, the grouping had to a greater extent steadfastly rejected to
> recognise the resultant unconstitutional governments till they restored
> democracy through the holding of elections.
> In December 2008, the AU together with the west and other nations roundly
> condemned a military coup led by Captain Moussa Dadis Camara in Guinea.
> Together, they have put constant pressure on the junta to return the country to
> democracy. As a result, Guinea is preparing to hold its elections on 27
> November 2011.
> Similarly in 2009 the AU, the West and many other nations unreservedly
> condemned a civilian uprising in Madagascar that led to the toppling of the
> government of Marc Ravalomanana with Andry Rajoelina taking over as
> president.
> All nations denounced the unconstitutional seizure of power and urged the
> mutineers to restore democracy. Western nations even went on further to
> withdraw their humanitarian assistance to the Mediterranean island as a clear
> sign of their disapproval of the mutiny.
> It boggles the mind therefore to see countries readily embracing a
> similarly unconstitutional take-over of power in Libya. Worse still, Africa is
> lambasted for failing to recognise the illegal outfit calling itself the
> National Transitional Council.
> Why should Africa be coerced into recognising the NTC when its history
> clearly shows that it is averse to such machinations? Above all, why would
> nations stampede to recognise the NTC when they had previously denounced
> similar events in other countries? Are we seeing double standards at play here?
> Other than its principled stance against unconstitutional governments, the
> AU is also justifiably seized by increasing reports of the callous murder
> of black immigrants by the rebels in Libya. Blacks are being arbitrarily
> accused of being mercenaries that defended the beleaguered Muammar Gaddafi.
> Guided by its moral and legal conscience, the African grouping is refusing
> to support this flagrant abuse of human rights and the ensuing genocide.
> Unlike other countries, including a few African nations, who have turned a
> blind eye to these atrocious murders, the African Union cannot turn its back
> on its own kind. More so the continental grouping cannot sanitise and
> legitimise these heinous massacres merely because they had the blessings of the
> West. Africa cannot legitimise the murderous Libyan rebels!
> In such instances, you turn to wonder why there is deafening silence and
> tacit complicity from the so-called champions of human rights. Maybe black
> rights are not human rights? Does someone smell some hypocrisy somewhere?
> It is even more vexing to realise that 13 African countries have decided to
> side with the murderers for the sole reason of endearing themselves to
> their disempowering western donors. Unlike other countries that have reposed
> their moral conscience on western countries, the African Union remains
> guided by its own sense of morality.
> Nonetheless, the decision by the AU to reject the NTC should also be viewed
> on the backdrop of unremitting and resource-driven efforts to recolonise
> the continent by its former colonial masters. The continent faces an
> inordinate scramble for its natural resources from all corners of the world.
> While other countries like China are prepared to amorously court African
> countries into economic partnership, the bigoted West is once again employing
> military tactics to regain its total control over the continent's abundant
> resources.
> It is also determined to use the regime change tactic to create client
> states in Africa that would easily open up their resource base to the caprice
> of the imperial economies.
>
> Unfortunately for the West, the African Union has shown that it is awake
> to these hegemonic machinations hence its decision to refuse to recognise
> the newly established imperial outpost in Libya.
>
> Africa is now aware of the neo-colonial juggernaut that has so far claimed
> the scalp of governments in Ivory Coast and Libya.
> As it stands, Africa cannot afford to lose its pan-African guard as its
> former colonisers are sleeplessly plotting their comeback.
> Cognisant of the foregoing, the decision by the African Union to
> disassociate itself from the illegally enthroned National Transitional Council
> becomes justifiable and beyond reproach.
> Instead, the Africa Union should be saluted for its resolute adherence to
> the infallible virtues of rule of law, morality and defence of human rights.
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