Saturday, November 12, 2011

Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Paneta Warns Against Military Strike Against Iran

The future in that area is uncertain - and nuclear weapons in the
hands of a theocracy which denies the Holocaust and has already talked
about wiping out Israel, is not to be taken lightly.

If you are half as Nigerian as I am, then you too would have the same
shivers running down your spine were you to hear that Boko Haram had
got their hands on some weapons of mass destruction, and had in fact
were going nuclear with their intentions.

In the final analysis "prevention is better than cure" and when the
Shia doctrines of Taqiyya and Kitman enter the political arena of
public diplomacy there's no telling exactly where the Iranian regime
is heading. It's extra dangerous because we cannot foresee that the
regime is destined to be stable., forever. Most of the Sunni World
backed Saddam Hussein in his 8 year war which he started against Iran
and since around that time there's been a storm brewing with the
custodians of the Holy places in Saudi Arabia and as you know the
whole area is the reservoir of oil supplies to the West, to China and
Japan......so nobody wants to see any nuclear tipped missiles flying
around in this area which would be better off without them and the
mad rush of the other neighbours to achieve nuclear capability. If
Gaddafi, and Saddam had had nuclear weapons we'd now be telling
another tale.

Should Iran be given the opportunity of upgrading from peaceful to
military, in response to the IEAE saying so you were lying, they will
justify themselves with " But Israel also has" and the doctrine of "
All's fair in love and war."

No matter how sympathetically you look at the scenario, it's a matter
of great concern, presently and in the unforeseeable future.

http://www.thelocal.se/blogs/corneliushamelberg/


On Nov 12, 5:10 am, "Anunoby, Ogugua" <Anuno...@lincolnu.edu> wrote:
> Every right thinking person knows that a military strike against Iran will have serious consequences for all concerned and more. If Iran is indeed developing nuclear weapons, a military strike will at best delay it. The question that needs to be asked and answered truthfully is why Iran would want to develop nuclear weapons. Iran must be aware of the weapons' deterent benefit. If Iran felt more safe from external threats and attack than it presently does, its posture on self-defense might be different. Iran's situation is analogous to Pakistan's after India developed nuclear weapons. Russia and China propose the continuation of talks. They know that talk is is more efficacious and cheaper than war.
> What the world needs is peace and leaders of goodwill, not a new imperialism and belligerent leaders of belicose countries. The experience of recent history is that the attack of one country by another is decreasingly a win-win possibility. War is increasingly unwise and too costly at the end of the day. War may enrich individuals and corporations but it impoverishes countries. Military superiority no longer conveys the advantage that it did in the past. Victory and defeat have lost their essence, meaning, and value.  War without end is the new normal. Paneta is well aware of this reality. He has done his job. He has warned against military strike on Iran. Will "they" listen is once again the question.
>
> oa
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> ________________________________________
> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Emeagwali, Gloria (History) [emeagw...@mail.ccsu.edu]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 6:04 PM
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Paneta Warns Against Military Strike Against Iran
>
> One of the unintended consequences of hitting Iran's nuclear
> facilities could be the radioactive fallout enveloping the area in a
> nuclear fog....and this could affect a lot of innocent Iranians, who
> have no part to play in the ideals of nuclear terror.
>
> True.   Maybe  the Iranians can pay Cheney's former firm Blackwater to do the clean up.
>
> Come to think of it, an unihabitable and underpopulated  MiddleEast  will be great for Big Oil.
> They can have it all....and Obama would have an oil tanker named after him.
>
> Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
> Prof. of History & African Studies
> History Department
> Central Connecticut State University
> New Britain
> CT 06050www.africahistory.netwww.esnips.com/web/GloriaEmeagwali
> emeagw...@ccsu.edu
> ________________________________________
> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cornelius Hamelberg [corneliushamelb...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, November 11, 2011 9:53 AM
> To: USA Africa Dialogue Series
> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Paneta Warns Against Military Strike Against Iran
>
> One of the unintended consequences of hitting Iran's nuclear
> facilities could be the radioactive fallout enveloping the area in a
> nuclear fog....and this could affect a lot of innocent Iranians, who
> have no part to play in the ideals of nuclear terror.
>
> The bigger question is what would be the consequence of not doing
> anything?
>
> Some of the consequences of inaction are spelled out here in the
> alarming updates on the approaching  inevitable showdown between Iran
> and those united in faith against an Iranian bomb, which  all things
> considered ought to be feared...
>
> http://www.dailyalert.org/archive/2011-11/2011-11-11.html
>
> On Nov 11, 4:29 am, Abdul Karim Bangura <th...@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
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> > Panetta warns on Iran strike consequencesUS defence chief cautions on regional fallout from any military strike against Iran.
>
> > Last Modified:11 Nov 2011 01:46
>
> > Panetta says  a strike on Iran will only delay its nuclear programme [EPA]
>
> > US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta has warned that military action against Iran could lead to "unintended consequences" for the region.
>
> > "You've got to be careful of unintended consequences here," Panetta told reporters at a Pentagon press conference on Thursday.
> > His comments came only hours after Tehran itself warned that any attack on its nuclear sites would be met with "iron fists."
> > Panetta, who in July succeeded Robert Gates in the Pentagon's top post, said his assessment is in line with his predecessor's.
>
> > He maintained that a strike on Iran might fail to deter Iran "from what they want to do" and would only delay its controversial nuclear programme.
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> > "But more importantly, it could have a serious impact in the region, and it could have a serious impact on US forces in the region," he said. "And I think all of those things, you know, need to be carefully considered."
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> > 'Toughest sanctions'
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> > Panetta stressed instead on US efforts to win tougher sanctions against Tehran.
>
> > "It is important for us to make sure we apply the toughest sanctions -- economic, diplomatic pressures -- on Iran to change their behaviour," he said.
>
> > "And we are in discussions with our allies with regards to additional sanctions that ought to be placed on Iran."
>
> > The European Union may approve fresh sanctions against Iran within weeks, after a UN agency said Tehran had worked to design nuclear bombs, EU diplomats said on Thursday.
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> > EU sanctions would be a significant part of Western efforts to ratchet up pressure on Tehran. Western governments would prefer UN Security Council measures against Tehran, but Russia and China, both permanent UN Security Council members with veto power, are opposed.
> > Tensions over Tehran's nuclear programme were re-ignited on Tuesday when a report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), said Iran had worked on designing a bomb and that research to that end may be on-going.
> > Israel exacerbated speculation of a strike against Iran after last week'stesting of a ballistic missilecapable of traveling the 6,437 kilometres to Iran.
> > Israel's first test-fire of a missile in three years came after Israeli media speculation alleging Benyamin Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, and Ehud Barak, defence minister, of planning a strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.
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> > Iran has warned that it will respond to any attacks by hitting Israel and US interests in the Gulf.
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> > "Our enemies, particularly the Zionist regime (Israel), America and its allies, should know that any kind of threat and attack or even thinking about any (military) action will be firmly responded to," Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei said on state television.
>
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