Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Why Would Any American African VoteFor Obama?

Mwalimu Bongmba, your analysis is right on the proverbial money. The point the observer was making is that certain Presidents do halt immigration deportations for various reasons. Obama made similar pronouncements, but the data show otherwise. And the 2008 data are necessary to show a base, which is necessary in statistical reporting, to see what has happened since Obama took office.

 

 

 

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From: Elias K Bongmba

To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com

Cc: Abdul Karim Bangura

Sent: 11/2/2011 1:01:05 PM

Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Why Would Any American African VoteFor Obama?

Dear Professor Bangura

I always appreciate reading your postings. You have been instrumental in making us reflect on many issues.  Deportations are a sad thing for the individual and his or her family. what often worries me is the scorn, mockery, and even hostility some face when they are deported. This is something one has to take seriously.

However, I think just giving statistics or the number of deportations might not be as helpful as we think. For instance it does not tell us the history of particular cases and reading these statistics, one cannot tell how long the individual has been in the system or what charges were against the individual, or even what the individual did to get legal assistance to regularize his or her stay. We also do not know how many times that individual has gone before an immigration judge. My point here is, many who have been deported might have been in immigration courts before Obama came to power or that they lost their cases before the Obama administration took over.

We talked to a group of lawyers who told us that many cases, the individual who has exhausted all the appeal processes and his or her legal remedies do stand very little chance that the deportation order would be rescinded. we are dealing with matters that involve personal records and from the outside we may not know what is going on. Again, let me state for the record that I find the deportations alarming, but the solution lies beyond Obama.

Thank you

Elias Bongmba




On 11/2/2011 10:30 AM, Abdul Karim Bangura wrote:

A keen observer shared the following data with us just a few minutes ago. It  made me ponder why any American African or any other naturalized American  citizen would want to vote for Obama in 2012. In addition to dropping bombs,  butchering, beheading and lynching Afrikan Libyans and immigrants in that  country and Somalia and will soon do the same in Uganda, the Congo and the  Central Afrikan Republic, his record on immigrants is dismal, despite his  earlier lofty talk about immigration reform from which he has chickened out.  * *  * Deportations Under Obama*  *YEAR CRIMINAL TOTAL *  *DEPORTED*  2008 114,415 369,221  2009 136,126 387,790  2010 113,453 227,103  Source: The Washington Post  Now that I have given you the stats on Obama as the most anti-immigrant  president in American history, never mind that he is also the first American  president to drop bombs on Africa.....   --  You received this message because you are subscribed to the "USA-Africa Dialogue  Series" moderated by Toyin Falola, University of Texas at Austin. For current archives, visit http://groups.google.com/group/USAAfricaDialogue For previous archives, visit http://www.utexas.edu/conferences/africa/ads/index.html To post to this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to USAAfricaDialogue- unsubscribe@googlegroups.com