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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: The disposable academic Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time
I am happy to have a conversation with you, as long as you do not parse my words and strip them of context. I am baffled; read my post, I never said that Nigeria has no resources. Read the sentence to the end. I said they are being systematically looted by intellectuals and politicians. I also said that when you compute what is being stolen, the cost/per student might rival that of what obtains in the West. Is that how you would describe a resource-poor nation?
And why would I need to convince you that our Nigerian education is in a dysmal state? Do you not read? Did you not read of the Minister for Education lamenting that as much as 70 percent of students failed a certain qualifying exam? Those who disparage and ruin our educational system everyday you know and I am not going to play that game with you.
On the matter of Biafra you are on your own. I am not that much older than you, so if Biafra means little to you, I should not waste my time with you. To divorce Biafra from the civil war of our country for someone your age is to be honest, disingenous. I only engage in honest conversations; and it is clear to me that from your conduct here and elsewhere that you are not interested in one. You have called me and certain others Biafra fanatics. I remain appalled by your conduct in that one forum and my estimation of you will always be measured by that, I am sorry. The passing of Dim Ojukwu was for me and many an opportunity to reflect on an era. You would not listen; it was not just about an individual alone. It was about us. That you did not, would not see that, I thought was interesting.
I still do admire you and wish you and yours all the best in the new year. This is my last word to you on these subjects. I only ask you to refrain from distorting my words. I am very careful with my words. Even when I am joking, I am serious.
- Ikhide
Toyin,The idea that PhDs invest in self employment is a good one, I imagine. Nigeria could use any and everything, any and everyone, there is so much hunger in that land for resources. I was there in September and I can attest to how much there is to do in Nigeria. The resources are simply not there; much of it looted openly by thieving intellectuals and politicians. You and I know that there is nothing new that I am going to say in terms of ideas that folks on this forum and elsewhere have not said in the past. Why just recently, Etannibi Alemika wrote a thoughtful piece on the same issue. If people are not responding it is not that they don't care, they are tired of saying the same thing over and over again with nothing happening.
We need to stop talking and start shaming people into being accountable. I seriously doubt that there is any Nigerian intellectual on this forum that will not privately say, what is happening to our children and youth in our classrooms is disgraceful. There are many Nigerian PhDs abroad toiling at jobs beneath the expense and trouble of their earned degrees. We could use them back home. I love your idea, but Toyin, our people do not care. They do not care that generations of children are being abused in classrooms - because their own kids are safe elsewhere. These thugs are of my generation, those of us who were educated at great cost by the military. You know me, I am not going to make patronizing noises about the situation. That would be dishonest, I will say what I am seeing, which is that our intellectuals are collaborating with the politicians to ruin other people's children.And of course this is not just my passion, this is my life and my career. I have been in K-14 education all my professional life - three decades with all but three of those served here in the US and being part of a leadership team running the 16th largest public K-12 school system in the US and the best of course, if I may say so ;-) So it pains me because I care and because I know what I am talking about. You can talk all you want, our people do not listen. You may think I exaggerate when I say this, but if you calculate per student how much is being stolen daily, the figure would rival the cost/pupil of educating a child anywhere in the West. And yet our primary schools look like where lizards are being abused. Under those circumstances I should be forgiven for sneering at anyone calling that situation an education. It is criminal and we should all be ashamed of the situation.And by the way, I do not understand how you can tolerate a situation where a 35-year old Nigerian educated up to the tertiary level knows little or nothing about Biafra and the Nigerian civil war. And the notion that Biafra was all about mere secession just seems to me a simplistic reading of the Nigerian situation. But it is your opinion, not mine. Be well,- Ikhide
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Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: The disposable academic Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time
Ikhide,It would be interesting to read from you your views on the significance of PhDs to the Nigerian academic system, since that system attracts a significant degree of your passion.
The essay in the Economist is interesting and sums up longstanding issues in the PhD universe of parts of Europe and North America.One approach that PhDs could use is the idea of building a base for self employment during their PhDs which they can use after the degree is completed.thankstoyin--On 31 December 2011 16:49, Ikhide <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:
--"Whining PhD students are nothing new, but there seem to be genuine problems with the system that produces research doctorates (the practical "professional doctorates" in fields such as law, business and medicine have a more obvious value). There is an oversupply of PhDs. Although a doctorate is designed as training for a job in academia, the number of PhD positions is unrelated to the number of job openings. Meanwhile, business leaders complain about shortages of high-level skills, suggesting PhDs are not teaching the right things. The fiercest critics compare research doctorates to Ponzi or pyramid schemes."I disagree with the Economist. I do believe that beleaguered nations like Nigeria could use all the PhDs it can train and productively use. America is a different ball game. Depending on what your life's passions are, a PhD may be a thorough waste of time in America; I wouldn't recommend it. But it is a thought-provoking read. Read on.- Ikhide- Ikhide
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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: The disposable academic Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time
Toyin,The idea that PhDs invest in self employment is a good one, I imagine. Nigeria could use any and everything, any and everyone, there is so much hunger in that land for resources. I was there in September and I can attest to how much there is to do in Nigeria. The resources are simply not there; much of it looted openly by thieving intellectuals and politicians. You and I know that there is nothing new that I am going to say in terms of ideas that folks on this forum and elsewhere have not said in the past. Why just recently, Etannibi Alemika wrote a thoughtful piece on the same issue. If people are not responding it is not that they don't care, they are tired of saying the same thing over and over again with nothing happening.
We need to stop talking and start shaming people into being accountable. I seriously doubt that there is any Nigerian intellectual on this forum that will not privately say, what is happening to our children and youth in our classrooms is disgraceful. There are many Nigerian PhDs abroad toiling at jobs beneath the expense and trouble of their earned degrees. We could use them back home. I love your idea, but Toyin, our people do not care. They do not care that generations of children are being abused in classrooms - because their own kids are safe elsewhere. These thugs are of my generation, those of us who were educated at great cost by the military. You know me, I am not going to make patronizing noises about the situation. That would be dishonest, I will say what I am seeing, which is that our intellectuals are collaborating with the politicians to ruin other people's children.And of course this is not just my passion, this is my life and my career. I have been in K-14 education all my professional life - three decades with all but three of those served here in the US and being part of a leadership team running the 16th largest public K-12 school system in the US and the best of course, if I may say so ;-) So it pains me because I care and because I know what I am talking about. You can talk all you want, our people do not listen. You may think I exaggerate when I say this, but if you calculate per student how much is being stolen daily, the figure would rival the cost/pupil of educating a child anywhere in the West. And yet our primary schools look like where lizards are being abused. Under those circumstances I should be forgiven for sneering at anyone calling that situation an education. It is criminal and we should all be ashamed of the situation.And by the way, I do not understand how you can tolerate a situation where a 35-year old Nigerian educated up to the tertiary level knows little or nothing about Biafra and the Nigerian civil war. And the notion that Biafra was all about mere secession just seems to me a simplistic reading of the Nigerian situation. But it is your opinion, not mine. Be well,- Ikhide
From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>
To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2011 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: The disposable academic Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time
Ikhide,It would be interesting to read from you your views on the significance of PhDs to the Nigerian academic system, since that system attracts a significant degree of your passion.
The essay in the Economist is interesting and sums up longstanding issues in the PhD universe of parts of Europe and North America.One approach that PhDs could use is the idea of building a base for self employment during their PhDs which they can use after the degree is completed.thankstoyin--On 31 December 2011 16:49, Ikhide <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:
--"Whining PhD students are nothing new, but there seem to be genuine problems with the system that produces research doctorates (the practical "professional doctorates" in fields such as law, business and medicine have a more obvious value). There is an oversupply of PhDs. Although a doctorate is designed as training for a job in academia, the number of PhD positions is unrelated to the number of job openings. Meanwhile, business leaders complain about shortages of high-level skills, suggesting PhDs are not teaching the right things. The fiercest critics compare research doctorates to Ponzi or pyramid schemes."I disagree with the Economist. I do believe that beleaguered nations like Nigeria could use all the PhDs it can train and productively use. America is a different ball game. Depending on what your life's passions are, a PhD may be a thorough waste of time in America; I wouldn't recommend it. But it is a thought-provoking read. Read on.- Ikhide- Ikhide
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USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: Economics blogs A less dismal debate
USA Africa Dialogue Series - It's the security, stupid!
USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: [OurWorldView] Egypt’s Obstructionist Generals
From: Nowa Omoigui <nowa_o@yahoo.com>
Date: 31 December 2011 22:15
Subject: [OurWorldView] Egypt's Obstructionist Generals
To: defsec@egroups.com, Our World View <OurWorldView@yahoogroups.com>
NY Times
December 30, 2011
Egypt's Obstructionist Generals
Egypt's military council continues to demonstrate its utter contempt for the citizens who risked their lives to end President Hosni Mubarak's authoritarian rule. In the latest outrage, security forces on Thursday shut down three American-financed democracy-building groups in Cairo and as many as six other nonprofit organizations. Armed with automatic weapons, troops provided no warrants and, in some cases, detained the groups' employees for hours. They confiscated computers and files and sealed the doors when they left.
The three American groups are all well known and respected. Two of them, the National Democratic Institute and the International Republican Institute, have ties to the main American political parties. They were authorized by the Egyptian government to monitor the country's first post-Mubarak parliamentary elections, set to resume next week. The third group, Freedom House, just finished its application for official recognition three days ago.
Egypt's Islamist parties, especially the Muslim Brotherhood, have honed their organizational skills over the years and won a majority in the first rounds of parliamentary voting. But the country's liberal and secular activists, the heart of the revolution, still need a lot of help to learn the skills to develop political parties, train poll workers and get out the vote.
The raids go against the military council's promise to allow free and fair elections. They are part of a desperate attempt to intimidate the opposition and cover up the council's many failures by invoking the canard of "foreign" meddling in Egypt's unrest.
Egyptians continue to protest because the army has made clear its determination to cling to political power indefinitely — and control lucrative chunks of the economy — no matter how many civilians it has to arrest or kill.
The Obama administration has spoken out firmly against the raids, and, on Friday, it said the Egyptian government had agreed to stop harassing the democracy groups and return their property. The administration needs to keep pressing that message and make clear that if such abuses continue at least some of the $1.3 billion in annual American military aid will be withheld. The European Union should also review its assistance.
Egypt's generals claim that they are protecting their country. The truth is they are only interested in protecting their own power and perks. Their continued repression is the real threat to Egypt's stability and its future.
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USA Africa Dialogue Series - Fwd: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: "Mother of all bombings coming soon to Lagos", BBC War ns
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Date: 31 December 2011 13:41
Subject: ||NaijaObserver|| Re: "Mother of all bombings coming soon to Lagos", BBC War ns
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Sent: Sat, Dec 31, 2011 12:05:35 GMT+00:00
Subject: "Mother of all bombings coming soon to Lagos", BBC War ns"Mother of all bombings coming soon to Lagos", BBC Warns
General Superintendent, the Deeper Christian Life Bible Church, Pastor W. F. KumuyiFile A security alert by the United Nations Department of Safety and Security has hinted that Boko Haram may bomb Lagos State on January 1, 2012.
The hint from its Field Security Coordination Officer, Mr. Ramesh Singh, on Friday, urged Lagos residents to stay away from places of worship, night clubs, cinemas and other crowded places.
Though unconfirmed, Singh said that the bomb threat was described by British Broadcasting Corporation Hausa Service as the "mother of all bombings."
He called on Lagos residents to take necessary steps to secure their environment.
In an electronic message, it said, "There is unconfirmed information which has emanated from the Hausa community and has apparently been on the BBC Hausa Service.
"The information is citing some threats from the Boko Haram to bomb Lagos on January 1, and it is being termed in their local languages as 'the mother of all bombings'."
The call to stay away from places of worship is, however, coming about 24 hours to the New Year's Eve, when most Christians congregate to welcome a new year.
Typically, the population of all places of worship usually grow by at least 100 per cent on such nights, as people who seldom visit churches do so as a tradition.
Findings by our correspondent showed that a lot of people had already opted to enter the anticipated year with family members in their homes, rather than attending the traditional "cross-over services."
It was found that some Pentecostal churches with large congregation still expected members to turn up for the service despite the bomb threat.
In a different development, the Household of God Church, led by Pastor Chris Okotie, on Friday reportedly announced the cancellation of its planned watch night service so as not to expose members to Boko Haram attack.
Also, the General Superintendent, the Deeper Christian Life Bible Church, Pastor W. F. Kumuyi, on Friday, reviewed the time for watch night service from the initial 9 pm kick-off time to 4 to 7 pm.
Some other churches said they would end the watch night service immediately after 12 midnight and expected members back for the New Year's Day service on Sunday morning, while others said there would be no other service after the watch night service.
The National Secretary, Pentecostal Fellowship of Nigeria, Pastor Wale Adefarasin, in a telephone interview, told our correspondent that he had asked Christians to be vigilant as they attended the watch night service and report any suspicious movement accordingly.
Lined-up watch night services in the parishes of the Redeemed Christian Church remain intact.
The same applies to branches of the Church of God Mission, Daystar Christian Centre, Lagos, Kingsway International Christian Centre, House on the Rock and Winners Chapel, Ota, with members predominantly from Lagos.
Meanwhile, the Lagos State Police Command on Friday denied speculations that members of the Boko Haram sect were in the state. The command's spokesman, Mr. Samuel Jinadu, urged residents to disregard such speculations.
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Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: The disposable academic Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time
From: toyin adepoju <toyin.adepoju@googlemail.com>
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Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Economist: The disposable academic Why doing a PhD is often a waste of time
Ikhide,
--"Whining PhD students are nothing new, but there seem to be genuine problems with the system that produces research doctorates (the practical "professional doctorates" in fields such as law, business and medicine have a more obvious value). There is an oversupply of PhDs. Although a doctorate is designed as training for a job in academia, the number of PhD positions is unrelated to the number of job openings. Meanwhile, business leaders complain about shortages of high-level skills, suggesting PhDs are not teaching the right things. The fiercest critics compare research doctorates to Ponzi or pyramid schemes."I disagree with the Economist. I do believe that beleaguered nations like Nigeria could use all the PhDs it can train and productively use. America is a different ball game. Depending on what your life's passions are, a PhD may be a thorough waste of time in America; I wouldn't recommend it. But it is a thought-provoking read. Read on.- Ikhide- Ikhide
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