RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Towards a politically correct conservatism...

Quoting Olabode Ibironke <ibironke@msu.edu>:CAPITAL D's please!

> You are right. Thanks for your qualifications. But I do not distinguish
> between the democratic party and democratic voters.
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> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Agbali
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 4:57 PM
> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Towards a politically correct
> conservatism...
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> "His supporters let him down big time during that midterm election and are
> now screaming at him to fight the Dragon with one arm (of government) cut
> off. This is a mystery indeed!"
>
>
>
> Bode,
>
> This statement of yours need some qualification. His supporters did not let
> him down, as it was his Democratic Party, who could not speak or act
> cohesively. If the Democratic Party has their acts together prior to the
> death of their "Lion King" Ted Kennedy, the Obama Health Reforms would have
> sailed much safely through what latter became his nightmare. As many folks
> now reckon, Obama's approach at comprehensive healthcare reforms blistered
> him immensely and sunk his political capital enormously. Even the passage of
> the eventual bill was with a narrow margin.
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>
> Overall, comprehensive reforms of any kind hardly enjoys an easy sail, as we
> saw with the President George "Dubya" Bush's Immigration reforms that
> stalled in congress, in spite of both houses enjoying a Republican
> advantage. One wonders, whether in hindsight, an incremental healthcare
> reform, with less staked earmarks would have been a better idea.
>
>
>
> In any case, the loss of President Obama's Democratic Party during the
> mid-term elections in 2010 was hugely attributable to the backlash
> instigated by the Tea Party movement actors. I would disagree that it was
> his supporters that helmed-in his Democratic Party mid-term advantageous
> prospect. The handwritting was glaring following the election of Senator
> Scott, the Massachussetts Republican replacement for Ted Kennedy.
>
>
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> Obama's spenddrift and the recklessness of his party wasted their political
> capital, rather than his supporters among the electorate. It should be
> remembered that Obama's 2008 victory; a combination of dexterious hardwork,
> acutely refined imagination, political suavity, not excluding chance and the
> collective will for change, especially among the young and women, was hugely
> made possible by Independents. While it is true that the refractions of
> racism could well be a solid luminous explanatory, Obama, in deed, has to
> blame his own poor and not thoroughly thought through policies, especially
> as it regards his raging carry-over of the Bush-Cheney stimulus spending
> that was scarily skyrocketing America's already exacerbated debt problems.
> The Tea Party used this to their advantage in galvanizing the Independent
> political base.
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>
>
> This recasting I hope would help you thoroughly parse that statement above.
> As far as I can tell, many from Obama and his party's traditional base voted
> for their Democratic candidates. It is also worthwhile to remember that some
> of the issues of the 2010 Mid-term elections bothered much on local issues
> and growing sentiments, hence on many levels, voters were thinking more
> about the kind of candidates, and not along party lines, of those capable of
> bettering their existential lots--with the still mounting domestic problems
> of joblessness, housing foreclosures, among other teething problems. Yes,
> to some extent that 2010 Mid-term was a blighted and pugnacious moratorium
> on the Obama presidential policies, though mainly that election essentially
> for a variety of reason it was typically coloured by touchy sentiments
> bothering more on local than national concerns.
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>
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> I would imagine that more than Obama's supporters, it was the Independents
> acting almost in a mob-like crowing acting, in the face of mountedly acerbic
> racism and xenophobic rhetoric from the right, especially from among the
> reactionary and embittered GOP ranks, that functioned to derail the almost
> cowering unassured, non-cohesive, and confidence deficient Democratic Party.
> In fact, the Democratic Party ever before it settled to work began to lose
> it, bickering and cowardly unable to act cohesively as the GOP would when
> their political interests is at stake. Resoundedly, we can safely conclude
> that the Obama policies debacle-- 'Obamacrash'--is the outcome of more than
> one unilinear factor, but a compounding of multifaceted factors.
>
>
>
> Anthony Attah Agbali
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>
>
> From: Olabode Ibironke <ibironke@msu.edu>
> To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com"
> <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2012 2:21 PM
> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Towards a politically correct
> conservatism...
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> It is important to continue to put real pressures on Obama to deliver on the
> promise of his election but not in a way that gives opposition legitimacy
> and advantage. That would be foolish. The 2010 election was a backlash
> against the very idea of change, a triumph by those who thought he was too
> radical already, and doing too many things; it was a nation that came out to
> shackle him, his mandate. His supporters let him down big time during that
> midterm election and are now screaming at him to fight the Dragon with one
> arm (of government) cut off. This is a mystery indeed!
>
>
>
> Bode
>
> On Jun 22, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Ikhide <xokigbo@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Folks,
>
>
>
> Ta-Nehisi Coates is a senior editor for The Atlantic, where he writes about
> culture, politics, and social issues for TheAtlantic.com
> <http://theatlantic.com/> and the magazine. He is the author of the memoir
> The Beautiful Struggle. I have enjoyed reading his two part series with the
> above title starting with this
> <http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/toward-a-politically-co
> rrect-conservatism/258749/> and ending with his thoughts on what he views
> as the single most important force against Barack Obama here
> <http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/06/toward-a-politically-co
> rrect-conservatism-cont/258755/> .
>
>
>
> Hear him on Obama:
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>
> "But over the course of the Obama presidency I have become convinced that no
> single force exerts a greater pull on his presidency than white racism. Not
> white resentment. Not white populism. White racism. I don't know how else to
> explain a health care denounced as reparations, the rather continuous
> disrespect, the sense that he is a Kenyan illegitimate or all of the
> attendant theories. I do not know how else to explain a state like West
> Virginia, arguably
> <http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/how-racist-are-we-ask-goo
> gle/> the most racist in the country, where
> <http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57455580-503544/manchin-other-top-w.
> v-dems-plan-to-skip-democratic-convention/> delegates are now refusing to
> endorse the president.
>
>
>
> There will be more on this in the coming months. I don't want to scoop
> myself. But my point is I can only stop talking about racism, when it ceases
> to be a significant force in our politics. When the mere act of being white
> gives Obama's opponent
> <http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/how-racist-are-we-ask-goo
> gle/> "a home-state advantage nationally," I can't stop. It would be deeply
> wrong to stop."
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>
>
> Fighting words. But we must stand by President Obama, despite himself and
> our anxieties. It is counter-intuitive I know, but the alternative will not
> help us one bit.
>
>
> - Ikhide
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>
> Stalk my blog at http://www.xokigbo.com/
>
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