RE: [Leonenet] RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Unbaiased AP SaysIt Best In Its headline

Rev Samforay,

 

You seem to be having serious problems with the ‘Democratic gay marriage ‘ constituency.  Get over it.   Of all the interest groups that constitute the Democratic party why single out this group? In this country some people believe that gay marriage is as much a civil right issue as it is a religious matter to others. So get over your disguised bigotry and let us stick to the issue of jobs. 

Why is it that a country that has been losing 780,00 jobs monthly four years ago considered to be doing so badly now that it is gaining 100,00 jobs a month?  Why does it make sense for Republicans to be saying that Obama’s policies did not create jobs when they blocked those same policies from coming into effect?  It is politics, as Mwalimu Bangura rightly said. The loss of manufacturing jobs due to Bain’s policies cannot be compared to the job creation from the likes of Staples. Manufacturing jobs usually pay salaries and wages that allow one to take good care of family, send kids to college, etc  while Staples provides services like selling  office supplies.  The sale of office supplies requires limited skills. But if you lose a manufacturing job you lose the skills that come with it.  When manufacturing jobs disappear the skills also disappear. The next time it becomes necessary to make those same or similar goods you no longer have the skills  to make them.  The Bains of the world, while providing good services, also encourage permanent loss of manufacturing skills.  I will not compare the gains from investing in Staples to the loss of manufacturing jobs facilitated by Bain capital.   But it is all politics.

 

Kwaku

 

 

From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com [mailto:usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Abdul Bangura
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 2:57 PM
To: Alfred SamForay; leonenet@lists.umbc.edu
Cc: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [Leonenet] RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Unbaiased AP SaysIt Best In Its headline

 

You hit the proverbial nail right on the head, Rev. SmF.

> Learned rofessor,
>
> This is the main problem with Obama disciples - they don't listen or
> think very well.  They are 200 percent convinced that only their or
> Obama's ideas work and any one else who has a different idea is
> stupid.  The good doctor is no exception.  She claims that Romney and
> Bain did not creat jobs.  Bain itself is a comany with over 400
> employees which means it created jobs.  Mr. Obama has never owned or
> operated a leomnade stand, so other than spending taxpayer money, how
> many jobs has he ever created?
>
> Besides Bain, the company did save jobs and create companies like
> Staples, SCM, Ampad and others most of which which are very
> successful.  The problem with the socialistic Obama group is that the
> only jobs they consider are government jobs.  The good doctor
> obviously is just lip-singing the chorus from the Democratic gay
> marriage convention which mainly says, I screwed up the first 4 years;
> give me another 4 years.
>
> SmF
>
>
> On 9/8/12, Abdul Bangura <theai@earthlink.net> wrote:
> > My wonderful Sister Gloria, your take will not wash with the majority of us
> > Americans who actually vote. What is important is that the buck, whether
> > good or bad, stops with the POTUS. So for the majority of us, Romney wins on
> > this one.
> >
> >> [Original Message]
> >> From: Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emeagwali@mail.ccsu.edu>
> >> To: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> >> <usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
> >> Cc: leonenet <leonenet@lists.umbc.edu>
> >> Date: 9/8/2012 10:40:44 AM
> >> Subject: RE: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Unbaiased AP Says It Best In
> >> Its headline
> >>
> >> Let's face it, Romney does not have a  plan for creating jobs-  so Obama
> >> wins this one by default.
> >>
> >> Romney destroyed jobs, closed down plants and created turmoil for workers
> >> as testified by several of them
> >> a few days ago. He has no credible plan to turn things around and one
> >> suspects that things will get much worse
> >> on that front, should he move to the White House. His strengths may lie
> >> somewhere else  -  yet to be discovered.
> >>
> >>
> >> Dr. Gloria Emeagwali
> >>
> >> www.vimeo.com/user5946750/videos<http://www.vimeo.com/user5946750/videos>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
> >> [usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Abdul Karim Bangura
> >> [theai@earthlink.net]
> >> Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 9:17 PM
> >> To: USAAfricaDialogue@googlegroups.com
> >> Cc: leonenet
> >> Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - The Unbaiased AP Says It Best In Its
> >> headline
> >>
> >> Gloomy jobs report shadows race with 60 days left
> >>
> >>
> >> <http://enews.earthlink.net/article/pho?guid=20120907/cbb71beb-4cc3-4721-ad06-8fb546b69b04&article_path=/article/us&article_guid=20120907/cbb71beb-4cc3-4721-ad06-8fb546b69b04>
> >> President Barack Obama shakes hands with the crowd gathered Friday, Sept.
> >> 7, 2012, at the Eastern Iowa Airport in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. (AP Photo -
> >> Matthew Putney)
> >> BEN FELLER
> >> From Associated Press
> >> September 07, 2012 7:33 PM EDT
> >>
> >>
> >> CHARLOTTE, N.C. (AP) — A dismal new snapshot of jobs in America shadowed
> >> the presidential campaign on Friday, testing the voter patience that will
> >> save or sink President Barack Obama's re-election bid. Seizing on the
> >> timing, Republican Mitt Romney said Obama's convention party had given way
> >> to quite a "hangover."
> >>
> >>
> >> Employers added just 96,000 jobs in August, not nearly enough to seriously
> >> dent unemployment, let alone inspire confidence that the economy is
> >> getting better. Even the good news — the unemployment rate dropped from
> >> 8.3 percent to 8.1 percent — resulted from many job-hunters just giving
> >> up.
> >>
> >>
> >> "We're going in the wrong direction," Romney declared, a view echoed by a
> >> majority of Americans still reeling from a massive recession.
> >>
> >>
> >> Obama put the emphasis on a trend showing employers have added jobs for 30
> >> months in a row now. He did so with a nod to public frustration.
> >>
> >>
> >> "We know it's not good enough," Obama said, dealing with the downbeat news
> >> mere hours after his confetti-flying Democratic National Convention. "We
> >> need to create more jobs, faster."
> >>
> >>
> >> With 60 frenetic days left until the election, the economic report was not
> >> grim enough to alter the political narrative of a consistently tight race.
> >> Yet the attention it commanded eroded any hope of a post-convention boost
> >> for Obama.
> >>
> >>
> >> Instead, it underlined his point that economic recovery will not be "quick
> >> or easy." No president has won re-election with unemployment over 8
> >> percent since Franklin D. Roosevelt, and Obama has embraced that Great
> >> Depression comparison, hoping to show why he and the nation need more
> >> time.
> >>
> >>
> >> Their conventions behind them and their debates just ahead, Obama and
> >> Romney sprinted into the next phase of campaign, targeting eight or so
> >> toss-up states. The two men headed the same way Friday, appearing in Iowa
> >> and New Hampshire, two states with small but potentially decisive
> >> electoral prizes.
> >>
> >>
> >> The economy has added just 139,000 jobs a month this year, a slower pace
> >> than last year. It takes roughly 200,000 jobs a month to shrink
> >> unemployment. In perspective, the economy was bleeding hundreds of
> >> thousands of jobs when Obama took office, but that does not comfort the
> >> jobless today.
> >>
> >>
> >> The new results only sharpened the competing and defining storylines of
> >> the election. Romney says the poor pace of job growth demands that Obama
> >> be thrown out of office, while the incumbent implores voters to compare
> >> the candidates' economic visions and see why only his would help the
> >> middle class.
> >>
> >>
> >> If the jobs numbers did hang over Obama, he did not show it, smiling and
> >> waving during rallies in Portsmouth, N.H., and Iowa City, Iowa. In both
> >> cities he returned to the themes of his convention speech, poking fun
> >> again at Romney while shrinking his competitor's economic theory to one
> >> idea.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Tax cuts. Tax cuts. Cut some more regulations. Oh, and more tax cuts,"
> >> Obama told the thousands who packed the grounds at Portsmouth's Strawbery
> >> Banke Museum. "Tax cuts when times are good. Tax cuts when times are bad.
> >> Tax cuts to help you lose a few extra pounds. Tax cuts to help you improve
> >> your love life. It'll cure anything."
> >>
> >>
> >> Romney was biting as well.
> >>
> >>
> >> On repeated occasions Friday, he challenged Obama's competency, lumping
> >> together the jobs report and Obama's prime-time convention address.
> >>
> >>
> >> "There was nothing in the speech that gives confidence that the president
> >> knows what he's doing when it comes to jobs," Romney told Fox News.
> >>
> >>
> >> It was a rejoinder to Thursday night, when Obama stood before a cheering
> >> crowd and essentially put the candidates on different levels.
> >>
> >>
> >> "The times have changed, and so have I," Obama said. "I'm no longer just a
> >> candidate. I'm the president."
> >>
> >>
> >> Trying to extend the buzz of his convention, Obama went back on the trail
> >> with Vice President Joe Biden and their wives as well. One of the longest
> >> days of his campaign would take him from North Carolina to New Hampshire
> >> to Iowa and ultimately Florida, where he begins a bus tour on Saturday.
> >>
> >>
> >> The monthly jobs snapshot came out even before organizers in Charlotte had
> >> finished clearing away the convention.
> >>
> >>
> >> "If last night was the party," Romney said in a statement, "this morning
> >> is the hangover."
> >>
> >>
> >> Romney's campaign also unveiled a battery of TV ads in Colorado, Florida,
> >> Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia. The themes
> >> of the ads are tailored to the economic concerns within those states, from
> >> growing debt to potential defense cuts to collapsing home values.
> >>
> >>
> >> The gloomy reaction to job growth came in part because it fell even below
> >> the expectations that economists had for August. On top of that, hourly
> >> pay fell, the job totals for July and June were reduced, and the number of
> >> people in the work force dropped to its lowest level in 31 years.
> >>
> >>
> >> "This is not even close to what a recovery looks like," Republican vice
> >> presidential nominee Paul Ryan told CNBC.
> >>
> >>
> >> Obama aides said they came out of their convention with momentum and small
> >> but consistent leads in the decisive states. With each passing week of
> >> little movement in the polls, the campaign attention is turning to what's
> >> left: voter mobilization drives and October's three presidential debates.
> >>
> >>
> >> __
> >>
> >> Associated Press writers Jim Kuhnhenn in Portsmouth, N.H., Thomas Beaumont
> >> in Orange City, Iowa, and Nancy Benac and Christopher S. Rugaber in
> >> Washington contributed to this report.
> >>
> >>
> >> __
> >>
> >> Follow Ben Feller on Twitter at http://www.twitter.com/benfellerdc
> >>
> >> Copyright 2012 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material
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> >>
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