Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Femi Fani-Kayode on Achebe's thoughts...

Was Biafra really an Igbo project? Or, put differently, when did
Biafra become an Igbo project?

I ask because the more I read the back and forths laced with the usual
ethnic magani the more they reads like a middle class project masked
in ethnic garb to renegotiate the terms co-existence in a new Nigeria.

When Murtala et al, not Jack Gowon, organised the counter-coup, the
so-called return march, they did it in the name of their collective
regional and class consciousness.

Where do we located the voice, the cry, the anguish, of the popular
masses in these multiple and overlapping conversations.

Rethinking what happened in the first decades of independence demands
a critical re-examination of old and worn out tools---ethnicity,
regionalism, British paternalism et al---in understanding that
historical moment.

This, I suspect, cobstitutes Achebe's Original Sin!

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On 10/9/12, OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <toyinvincentadepoju@gmail.com> wrote:
> Iron sharpeneth iron, as the Bible puts it.
>
> Tade, I hereby thank you for this exchange and express my appreciation for
> the existence of this group.
>
> I have been able to expand the penultimate paragraph of my last response to
> you to a 1,584 word essay that situates the actors on Nigerian centred
> listserves within reflections on time and eternity.
>
> This effort enables me participate in the intellectual and imaginative
> exploration of the significance of listserves, particularly the Nigerian
> centred listserves, where the discussions can be quite rough and yet
> enlightening.
>
> This essay is also likely to be the first of my essays for sale. I have
> long aspired to market and sell my essays and this development provides me
> with what might be my published first effort in that initiative.
>
> I am anticipating with delicious eagerness the planning of how how to
> present the essay to various audiences, Nigerian and non-Nigerian, in
> ways that will encourage them them to buy it, and what will follow from
> that.
>
> thank you very much
> toyin
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 4:51 PM, OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <
> toyinvincentadepoju@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Tade.
>>
>> If you read the Nigerian centred listserves, you will see the civil war
>> is
>> a running topic, year after year, and conflict between Yorubas and Igbos
>> and between these two and the Hausa Fulani is a distinct feature of these
>> groups.
>>
>> If you follow the Northern Nigerian centred groups, you will also observe
>> the sense of the 'South-as different from us-the North'. Members of the
>> Northern centred groups of Yanarewa and Raariga at times even make a
>> point
>> of conducting debates in Hausa, even when the debate involves non-Hausa
>> speakers from the South. They would discuss you in Hausa and in terms of
>> attitudes they dont want you to know about, without realizing that with
>> some effort, one can get a reasonably good online free Hausa translator.
>>
>> Some groups would expel you if they see you as too disturbing to their
>> ethnically inspired or related sensitivities. An Igbo dominated group
>> could do that partly on discomfort with your challenging their beloved
>> pro-Biafra dogmas. A Northern centred group could ban you for your
>> critiques of Islam. A Bini centred group could exclude you for persistent
>> challenges to Bini struggles for self assertion.
>>
>> So, the debate on the Achebe essay and book are a continuation of a long
>> running tradition. As the various ethnicities struggle to define
>> themselves
>> in relation to each other, these debates most take place.
>>
>> A book can be written about debates on the civil war between last year
>> and
>> this year alone on Nigerian centred online communities, including the
>> very
>> rich Nairaland forum.I pray I am able to do so. Oluwatoyin Ade Odutola
>> has
>> brought out his book based on his PhD, which does something similar over
>> a
>> broader spectrum of issues and covering a much longer period of time :
>> *Diaspora
>> and Imagined Nationality: USA-Africa Dialogue and Cyberframing Nigerian
>> Nationhood*<http://www.amazon.com/Diaspora-Imagined-Nationality-USA-Africa-Cyberframing/dp/1594609268>
>> .
>>
>> There is so much to learn from these debates and the various actors in
>> them.
>>
>> They include the intellectual but rough and ready Bolaji Aluko who seems
>> to have become sobered and absorbed by his VCship appointment at Otueke;
>> Chukwuma 'Vicious Animal' Agwunobi and the ' Wharf Snake of Idioro', that
>> being his user name, and their long running fight with the Ngbati
>> Ngbatis,
>> the Yorubas; Afis Odidere and his perpetual struggles with those he calls
>> Iyanmiris, the Igbos; the lofty postulations of Obi Nwakanma;Leye Ige's
>> perpetual advocation for Nigeria restructuring; Valentine Ojo's violently
>> acerbic but at times insightful attacks;Ozodi Osuji's eternal critique of
>> his fellow Igbos and learned reflections on a broad range of issues,
>> from
>> sociology to psychology and scientific cosmology;etc etc
>>
>> Its actually one big happy family whose members cannot do without each
>> other.
>>
>> toyin
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 12:41 AM, Felicia Oyekanmi
>> <profoyekanmi@yahoo.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Tade
>>> The saying that everything that has a beginning must surely have an end
>>> does not seem to apply to the Nigeiran civil war. Maybe it is better to
>>> let
>>> people tell their various versions of the truth until they run out of
>>> new
>>> stories. Then final peace would reign
>>> However, it is a pity that as other nations are developing ideas to
>>> improve the welfare of their citizens, Nigerian leaders/elders seem to
>>> concentrate on self destruction and wasting of ideas and resources.
>>>
>>> Prof Felicia A. D. Oyekanmi
>>> Department of Sociology
>>> University of Lagos
>>> Akoka, Yaba,
>>> Lagos Nigeria
>>> Tel: {234} 1 7941757
>>> Cell: {234}8056560970
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 8/10/12, Tade Aina <tadeakinaina@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Tade Aina <tadeakinaina@yahoo.com>
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Femi Fani-Kayode on
>>> Achebe's thoughts...
>>> To: "usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com" <
>>> usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Monday, 8 October, 2012, 17:08
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Toyin.
>>> We are never going to have a sober and restrained discussion of Biafra.
>>> Forty years on the wounds have not healed. Some of the protagonists are
>>> still alive and we all have different reactions to the Biafran
>>> question.
>>> My own experiencse and knowledge were shaped by seeing the war from
>>> Lagos
>>> as a school boy receiving classmates back to the boarding house after
>>> the
>>> war and serving my NYSC in the old South Eastern state of Nigeria(now
>>> Cross
>>> River and Akwa Ibom). As you can imagine it is a complex amalgam of
>>> pain,
>>> anger and confusion when you remember the stories of killing, rape,
>>> looting
>>> and humiliation. That story in the old Eastern Nigeria has many
>>> variants!
>>> I have also spent time supporting transitional justice issues and work
>>> around truth and reconciliation for many years in Eastern Africa
>>> particularly the Arusha Tribunal, the lessons to be learned from the
>>> South
>>> African TRC and the various economic and other crimes debates as they
>>> affected some African dictators in that region.
>>> All of these are not things we can pronounce on lightly. We often do.
>>> The
>>> definitions are at times legally clear and we know that there are
>>> differences in what happened in wars around the world(Congo, Liberia,
>>> Sierra Leone, Ivory Coast, Darfur, Bosniaetc . But as I said,Biafra is
>>> still too close and too near for ,many of us. The stories have many
>>> sides
>>> and multiple narrators. My position is : let whoever wants to, tell
>>> their
>>> story. I have my profound and unalloyed respect for Professor Achebe
>>> and
>>> I donot want to come to any judgement on his interpretation of this sad
>>> part of our national history. There are so many aspects to this history-
>>> the riots in Kano in the 1950s, the Western Nigerian crisis, the
>>> imprisonment of the Action Group leaders on treasonable felony , the
>>> first
>>> and second 1966 coups and the Civil war and its aftermath.
>>>
>>> We can judge facts but have no competence or capacity to judge the
>>> quality and depth of individual and collective pain and suffering. This
>>> is
>>> what civil wars and all other acts of hatred and animosity do to peoples
>>> who are kins, neighbors and co-citizens. Nigeria is a traumatized
>>> country.
>>> If it had been an indidual it would be requiring therapy and clinical
>>> attention! Alas, it is a nation and nations scarcely get a chance to be
>>> checked into care!
>>>
>>> But the same Nigeria, in spite of all its problems is a special country.
>>> It is one of the few places in history where the history of a civil war
>>> is
>>> most aggresively being written and inscribed by those who were not the
>>> formal victors!Those who thought they won that war have oftentimes been
>>> discredited or shamed into silence not by Biafra but by their own
>>> unfortunate political and personal circumstances. So, we hear a more
>>> insistent and consistent side or part of this sad story!
>>>
>>> It really makes us special and this is why the struggles now should be
>>> how to overcome the collective and individual traumas and pains of our
>>> national history. The struggle should be how to rebuild, to heal, to
>>> forgive but not forget all that we have done to ourselves. This is where
>>> we
>>> lack national leadership of any worth.
>>> That , more than the intellectual and historical worth of what has
>>> happened and continue to happen to us as a people is perhaps the bigger
>>> question.
>>>
>>> *From:* OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <toyinvincentadepoju@gmail.com>
>>> *To:* usaafricadialogue@googlegroups.com
>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 8, 2012 3:30 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: Femi Fani-Kayode on
>>> Achebe's thoughts...
>>>
>>> Thanks, Tade.
>>>
>>> I think, though, that there is a need to distinguish between the book
>>> preview by Achebe and the book proper.
>>>
>>> Reading a book being a more or less demanding task, Achebe has done the
>>> world the favour of abstracting aspects of it in an essay. As a writer
>>> and
>>> scholar, I expect he would realize that such an excerpt needs to give a
>>> window into what he considers most significant about what he has to say
>>> about these issues 40 years after the war ended. Thus, the essay stands
>>> on
>>> its own as an example of social intervention by means of a carefully
>>> chosen
>>> and politically explosive text, an effect it demonstrates abundantly.
>>>
>>> Even after reading the book, the politics of Achebe's essay preview
>>> remains germane as a point of discourse in strategies of self
>>> positioning
>>> and publicity for one's ideas.
>>>
>>> Biafran leaders were very good at selling a story of victimization, but
>>> I get the impression they were poor at the practical realities of
>>> overall
>>> political and military strategy.
>>>
>>> Along similar lines, I suspect Achebe has scored another own goal, like
>>> the Biafran leaders did in strategic contexts, and I will explain why
>>> later.
>>>
>>> Having stated that, we need to engage with the essay, where Achebe does
>>> not simply provide bullet points but clearly states and justifies his
>>> views.
>>>
>>> After we have read the book, then we can also critique it.
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, I am finding it enriching reading the rich debates on
>>> Nigerian
>>> centred listerves on the essay and partly on the book.
>>>
>>> If people's thinking is ethnically shaped, and so? How will they
>>> transcend their ethnic conditioning without articulating those
>>> perspectives flowing from it and have those perspectives challenged?
>>>
>>> Kingsley Nnaguaba, not sure of the correct spelling, beat his chest to
>>> argue that Biafrans/Igbos committed no war crimes. I provided a brief
>>> list.
>>> He then concluded that we all need to acknowledge crimes on both sides
>>> and
>>> achieve redress. I have just read Obi Nwakanma making the same boast and
>>> I
>>> have asked him to confirm he is serious so I can assist him with the
>>> information. We can then move beyond this culture of making Biafra into
>>> a
>>> holy enterprise devoid of the contradictions of human enterprises.
>>>
>>> A contributor on this list once responded to my argument that the claim
>>> of anti-Igbo genocide in the name of plans to kill all Igbos is
>>> difficult
>>> to sustain by providing other conceptions of genocide which he is
>>> convinced are relevant to the Biafran story. Other contributors debated
>>> various ways of interpreting genocide as different from war crimes. With
>>> such information, one is better positioned to examine the issues.
>>>
>>> There might never be a time when, beceause we know enough, we shall
>>> all
>>> agree on the war in its totality. So waiting till all the information is
>>> in
>>> is a self defeating enterprise.
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> toyin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> toyin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:38 AM, Tade Akin Aina
>>> <tadeakinaina@yahoo.com<http://uk.mc293.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tadeakinaina@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Toyin,
>>> The problem is not with this listserve and how it is discussing the
>>> questions and issues raised by Professor Achebe's book. It is with a
>>> narrow
>>> ethnic perspective around the Nigerian civil war and the Biafran
>>> question.
>>> Biafra lost the civil war so we have one formal united Nigeria. But what
>>> happened during that war? Are there issues of transitional justice?
>>> Actions
>>> that would have been considered war crimes or crimes against humanity?
>>> What
>>> attempts were made at reconciliation, justice and healing? Should we not
>>> get as many pictures of these moments in our history without the
>>> questioning of the literary credentials or integrity of Chinua Achebe ?
>>> These are my concerns. This book by Chinua Achebe is a serious effort
>>> and
>>> intervention and cannot be dismissed by reading just the introduction or
>>> the introductory essay. It requires a sustained engagement around facts
>>> and
>>> evidence by researchers and witnesses like Prof. Achebe. My worry is all
>>> the noise and heat by the array of politicians and commentators who do
>>> not
>>> have either the stamina or concentration to engage a ten page document
>>> and
>>> have now ascribed to themselves the role of critiquing what I know is
>>> the
>>> product of sustained and engaged effort by Prof Achebe. Yes, it is high
>>> time we debate and confront Biafra in Nigerian history, conscience and
>>> consciousness. It is time that we review the damage and hurt to our
>>> collective psyche and bring the experience and questions back to the
>>> open
>>> before all the key players pass away. We need their stories, accounts,
>>> rationalizations , interpretations and explanations. They are not the
>>> ones
>>> responding. Prof Achebe is one eye witness. He has told his story.
>>> Unfortunately Chief Awolowo is gone but there are others who know what
>>> is
>>> not yet in the public domain. Chinua Achebe has told his own side of the
>>> story. Let them speak, write or say their piece whichever way. Let us
>>> use
>>> this opportunity to further understand and interpret ourselves as a
>>> people.
>>> This is my point. It is a sensitive point, but it goes beyond Gowon's
>>> "no
>>> victor, no vanquished". It also can help us know how to address the
>>> Niger
>>> Delta question and the unfolding North Eastern and Far North (Boko
>>> Haram)
>>> question. It is good to discuss and debate but with a clear
>>> understanding
>>> of the goals of why we are doing it and what we want to achieve.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2012, at 9:24 PM, OLUWATOYIN ADEPOJU <
>>> toyinvincentadepoju@gmail.com<http://uk.mc293.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=toyinvincentadepoju@gmail.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Can we please be told what is immature in the discussion on this
>>> subject so far?
>>>
>>> Why all this speaking in codes?
>>>
>>> If you think anyone's approach is inadequate, explain why you think so.
>>>
>>> There has been so little discussion of this subject on this group of
>>> scholars while the general Nigerian groups are chewing the issue to
>>> pieces.
>>>
>>> Anybody who has anything to say should please say it and fearlessly.
>>>
>>> toyin
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 12:52 AM, Tade Akin Aina
>>> <<http://uk.mc293.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tadeakinaina@yahoo.com>
>>> tadeakinaina@yahoo.com<http://uk.mc293.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=tadeakinaina@yahoo.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> Ibrahim my brother, I join Funmi in thanking you. We need a lot of
>>> light in this steamy moment where it is all heat and no light!
>>> This is Chinua Achebe's interpretation of a particularly important
>>> historical moment in Nigeria's history. It is his accountancy history
>>> and
>>> his contribution and intervention and I am glad it is generating so much
>>> debate and questioning but academics and intellectuals need to grow up
>>> and
>>> face this as an important intervention.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On Oct 7, 2012, at 7:08 PM, Funmi Tofowomo Okelola
>>> <<http://uk.mc293.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cafeafricana1@aol.com>
>>> cafeafricana1@aol.com<http://uk.mc293.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=cafeafricana1@aol.com>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> You guys are really and truly shameless, I mean really shameless.
>>> Chinua
>>> wrote a book-- I doubt if there is anything new in that book--on the war
>>> and the crisis of the Nigerian state 1966-1970 and all you guys could do
>>> is
>>> defend your ethnic godfather/turf.
>>> Why should Chinua's take on the crisis split the exchange between
>>> so-called
>>> yorubas ans socalled igbos?
>>> This is graceful......quo vadis nigeria?????
>>>
>>> Mr. Abdullah, all heat!
>>> Thank you for your perspective on the matter.
>>> Funmi Tofowomo
>>> --The art of living and impermanence.
>>>
>>>
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