Tuesday, October 9, 2012

USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re: NigerianID | how can we move forward from the civil war and its legacies?

I know it is important that historical facts are accurate; i am very worried though that some are positing as if those of us alive now need be bound, defined, or confined by the utterances and actions and even worldviews of those who played those roles on all sides during the civil war and in the events leading up to it.
Should we remain trapped and constrained by this history? Should our energies be focused on vilifying the past rather than on understanding it alongside the present and charting a way to a new future?
Let us assume that Nigeria is not viable as a nation and must be broken up into its component ethnic constituents; would these new independent entities not have to live together as neighbours? Or are we saying that even as independent entities they must live as enemies in a perpetual state of war? And what progress or development might come out of these state of permanent war and conflict?
Would our cyber warlords come back with their families to live and attempt to thrive in these autonomous ethnic spaces in the midst of permanent state of warfare?
Regards,
Jaye Gaskia

From: lawrence nwobu <lawrencenwobu@yahoo.com>
To: Jaye Gaskia <ogbegbe@yahoo.com>
Cc: "NigerianID@yahoogroups.com" <NigerianID@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: NigerianID | how can we move forward from the civil war and its legacies?
My brother Jaye, i wrote yesterday that the massive campaign for a sovereign national conference
has provided the verdict of history and that we should move-on and learn from the past, but the
bigots, sick sadists  and guilt panged urchins who pimp around in the internet will not allow
any objectivity.

From: Jaye Gaskia <ogbegbe@yahoo.com>
To: Nigerian IDENTITY <NigerianID@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 9 October 2012, 17:48
Subject: NigerianID | how can we move forward from the civil war and its legacies?
 
In my opinion how can we move forward from the civil war and its legacies? How can we transform the challenges which led to the war, the challenges which came with the war, and the challenges since the war into the basis of building a new nation/nations that will be able to fulfil its/their potential/potentials?
History is very important, but only to the extent that we learn from it, so that we do not make the same mistakes? Why can't the elite, inspite of the investment of the hope of a nation, transcend and move beyond the past and the present? Why are we unable to chart a path to a collective future? How can we chart such a path to such a future when we are still stuck in the past?
In case we do not know or realise, the world, this continent, this country has moved on since the civil war; we may not like the trajectory of movement, in which case our task is to do something to reorient it, but we will achieve nothing positive by coflating the past and the present and debating the past as if it were the present, and thereby missing the opportunity of the present.
And many of these intellectual ideologues of these ethnic identities are and have children whose worldview is informed by westernisation, and who are actually identifying themselves as westerners; while their parents and guardians strut cybersphere in borrowed ethnic garbs!
Regards,
Jaye Gaskia
 

From: Chukwuemeka Okala <reukal@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Nigerian IDENTITY <NigerianID@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 9:05 AM
Subject: NigerianID | GENERAL GOWON APPROVED THE RELEASE OF CHIEF AWOLOWO FROM PRISON
 
IBK,
You should know better that, that wasn't a lie. That should be classified as an expression of a determination to achieve a goal and it is not limited to Ojukwu. People throughout humanity draw out a plan to achieve a goal, and based on the realities on ground they believe in the realisation of that goal. But not every set goal is achieved at the end of the day and that's where failure comes in. That Ojukwu failed to achieve his set goal on that occasion does not mean that he wasn't determined to win the war. Considering the realities on ground at the time he made the statement, Eastern Nigeria under Ojukwu was more equipped militarily than the federal Government. Things turned the other way after all because of the heavy support that the Federal Government got from Britain, Russia and some other big powers.

Ojukwu did not tell lies, but rather his plan failed. These are two different things.

Take care,

Emeka Reuben Okala
London, UK 
 
--- On Tue, 9/10/12, Ibukunolu Alao Babajide <ibk@usa.net> wrote:

From: Ibukunolu Alao Babajide <ibk@usa.net>
Subject: Re: [TalkNigeria] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: GENERAL GOWON APPROVED THE RELEASE OF CHIEF AWOLOWO FROM PRISON
To: TalkNigeria@yahoogroups.com, talkhard@yahoogroups.com, "Adeniran Adeboye" <aadeboye@mac.com>, NIgerianWorldForum@yahoogroups.com
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Date: Tuesday, 9 October, 2012, 8:25

 
Reuben Okala, Ojukwu lied to Biafrans that he could win a war he knew he could never win. That lie caused the death of millions of innocent Nigerians. If that is not a lie tell me what a lie is. You hero worship to the point of absurdity. Cheers. IBK
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Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 06:56:38 +0100 (BST)
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Subject: [TalkNigeria] Re: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: GENERAL GOWON APPROVED THE RELEASE OF CHIEF AWOLOWO FROM PRISON
 
Nowa Omoigui,
In your worthless and helpless effort to re-write history to satisfy your whims and caprices, you gall me, and I'm convinced many others too!

In the interview he granted the TELL magazine in the year 2000, Ojukwu gave a meticulous account of how he singularly released Chief Obafemi Awolowo from prison in Calabar, and from then he repeated the story on and on in many other media outlets in Nigeria for any doubting thomas and anyone who cared to know to take note.

You have been very much around within this period. Why did you not refute his claim? Why did you not take him on?

Ojukwu did not say that he flew Awolowo to Lagos, so, what point are you trying to make when you quoted Chief Awolowo's account of how two of the tires of his car went flat from the airport? Did you expect a man of Awolowo's standing not to pay homage to the then Head of State upon his arrival in Lagos after his release? At best, you make yourself too frivolous with what you are trying your hands at for anyone to ever take you serious.

Ojukwu was a very truthful, decent and upright man. Ojukwu never lied and he spoke it the way it was. And because all who knew him, including his detractors like you knew his qualities, that's why you all kept quiet when he gave the account of how he released Chief Obafemi Awolowo. Now that he is no more amongst the living, you feel your appointed time has come to outwit his record. No way!

Emeka Reuben Okala
London, UK  
 
--- On Tue, 9/10/12, Nowa Omoigui <nowa_o@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Nowa Omoigui <nowa_o@yahoo.com>
Subject: [NIgerianWorldForum] Re: GENERAL GOWON APPROVED THE RELEASE OF CHIEF AWOLOWO FROM PRISON
To: talkhard@yahoogroups.com, "Adeniran Adeboye" <aadeboye@mac.com>
Cc: chimainno@yahoo.com, igboevents@yahoogroups.com, igbo_forum@yahoogroups.com, nigerianworldforum@yahoogroups.com, naijapolitics@yahoogroups.com, nigerianid@yahoogroups.com, nigeria360@yahoogroups.com, newnaijapolitics@yahoogroups.com, talknigeria@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 9 October, 2012, 4:27

 
AA Some excerpts may be of interest: August 2, 1966 "...Ohwo came at 6.30 am to say that a plane had arrived at Calabar airport with escorts to take me to Lagos. The plane had been sent by the new Head of the National Military Government and the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces...." (p 306) ........."I will let my Diary for 3 August speak briefly here (p 307). 1. Crossed the prison gate into freedom at 7.56 am 2. Plane took off from Calabar at 8.30 am 3. Arrived Ikeja airport at 9.32 am 4. Saw Gowon at his Headquarters. 5. Returned to Ikenne alone in triumph. AFTER SEEING GOWON "Just as I was ready to go, two of the tires of the car which had brought me from the airport became flat. Immediately, Major Murtala Muhammed (he became General and Head of State in 1975 before he died in 1976) offered his car to convey me to Ikenne. Gowon and I drove off at the same time. He led the way with his escorts and convoy, and I took the rear. At Maryland junction, he turned right towards Lagos, and I turned left towards Ikenne via Ikorodu." NOTE: July 27, 1966 The pre-coup message from Colonel Fajuyi on July 27, 1966 saying that the SMC had granted Awolowo's petition for (conditional) release, was delivered in Calabar by Mr. Olu Olofin, then Editor of Irohin Yoruba. Awolowo continues (p 307): "At this juncture it is of interest to narrate the nature of the proposed release [by Ironsi] as it was disclosed to me after my actual release. The plan was to take me to Ikoyi prison until it was judged safe to set me free. A cell had been prepared for me there which contained extra facilities. If I did not like the place , I could be placed under house arrest at Ikenne. If I wanted to travel abroad, every facility would be afforded me to do so. That is why my intended release was not announced, even though a plane had been despatched to Calabar to bring me to Lagos. Until negotiation with me on the above lines had been concluded, Ironsi's team did not want the public to know that I had been transferred back to Ikoyi prison or to my house under house arrest, with my own consent." Source: Obafemi Awolowo: Adventures in Power Book One - My march through prison ISBN 978-132-338-8 (Paper) ISBN 978-132-346-9 (Cased) African Press Limited, Ibadan Some personalities: Chief Giwa Osagie - Federal Director of Prisons M A Ifijeh, Superintendent, Calabar prison Ewohunmi, Assistant Superintendent Mr. Gabriel Ohwo - Superintendent Steven Odigie, Cadet Officer FO Okotie, Cadet Officer E. Onyemachie, Assiatant Chief Warder JS Jolaosho, Cadet Officer
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